So are you saying you believe 1 John 1:8 is saying that will always sin? What about 1 John 2:4?
It depends. If there is no fruit to show forth their faith can a dead faith save a person? (James 2:17).
Do you also not know that without holiness, no man shall see the Lord? (Hebrews 12:14).
Yes, this is true. If they do not turn from their evil and wicked ways eventually then they are choosing their sin over the Lord.
Yes, I am not denying the Lord is merciful and can forgive, but there has to be a change in one's life at some point where they start to walk uprightly before the Lord.
"And if the righteous scarcely be saved, where shall the ungodly and the sinner appear?" (1 Peter 4:18).
You avoided to answer my question and came back with one of your own........
I already explained 1 John 1:8 and 2:4, as 2:4 does not say a person will not sin again !!!
If you take and walk properly in the faith and then one day steal something, yes you have broken a commandment, but if you repent of it then your are still keeping with the commandments. Salvation is not hindered, lost, or forfeited...So you can not use 1 John 2:4 to say a person will never sin again.
Nor can you use the verses of 1 John 3:9, 5:18 because the context of those verses are about willful habitual unrepented sins.
The fruits of the Spirit will be evident in a believers life, but once again this does not say a person will not sin again.
Even John recognized that believers can and will sin again, but it can not be done in the form of willful habitual sin that carries no true repentance or no repentance at all.
Holiness is about walking in the gospel teachings of Christ, and one of those commands is repentance......
As long as a person adhears to the repentance when they stumble then the Lord will present them blameless and without spot in front of God. Lord's blood makes us holy and spotless when we repent of our sins, this is not speaking once again that a sin will never be committed again in ones life.
The change from the old creation to a new creation is going from a habitual sinner with no sorrow or repentance, to a person who feels Godly sorrow that leads them to repent of their ways. And then from here when they do sin again they repent/confess that sin to be forgiven. If you try to make one scripture in 1 John say a believer will never sin again then you will have it contradict other scriptures from the same epistle where John shows he knows we can and will sin again.