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6 And He said, "I am the Elohim of your father, the Elohim of Abraham, the Elohim of Isaac, and the Elohim of Jacob." And Moses hid his face because he was afraid to look toward Elohim. ווַיֹּ֗אמֶר אָֽנֹכִי֙ אֱלֹהֵ֣י אָבִ֔יךָ אֱלֹהֵ֧י אַבְרָהָ֛ם אֱלֹהֵ֥י יִצְחָ֖ק וֵֽאלֹהֵ֣י יַֽעֲקֹ֑ב וַיַּסְתֵּ֤ר משֶׁה֙ פָּנָ֔יו כִּ֣י יָרֵ֔א מֵֽהַבִּ֖יט אֶל־הָֽאֱלֹהִֽים:

14 Elohim said to Moses, "Ehyeh asher ehyeh (I will be)," and He said, "So shall you say to the children of Israel, 'Ehyeh (I will be) has sent me to you.'" ידוַיֹּ֤אמֶר אֱלֹהִים֙ אֶל־משֶׁ֔ה אֶֽהְיֶ֖ה אֲשֶׁ֣ר אֶֽהְיֶ֑ה וַיֹּ֗אמֶר כֹּ֤ה תֹאמַר֙ לִבְנֵ֣י יִשְׂרָאֵ֔ל אֶֽהְיֶ֖ה שְׁלָחַ֥נִי אֲלֵיכֶֽם:


2 Elohim spoke to Moses, and He said to him, "I am the Lord. בוַיְדַבֵּ֥ר אֱלֹהִ֖ים אֶל־משֶׁ֑ה וַיֹּ֥אמֶר אֵלָ֖יו אֲנִ֥י יְהֹוָֽה:3I appeared to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob with [the name] Almighty God, but [with] My name YHWH, I did not become known to them.
The father has the highest authority in heaven.

The son has the highest authority on earth.

Anything else is a senseless argument
 
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The father the son and the spirit is equally yolked
3rd Century Greek claims God is God in ALL that God is by the being the SAME ESSENCE, which is how the 325 AD Creed defines it.
The father has has higher authority in some regards as the son having higher authority in some regards.
and Jesus showed us how we as SONS and DAUGHTERS should revere our Heavenly Father
The son has every authority over us and God's creation.
it's a ROLE, the WORD has ALL POWER and AUTHORITY!
Then, when all things are under his authority, the Son will put himself under God’s authority, so that God, who gave his Son authority over all things, will be utterly supreme over everything everywhere.
don't we as Sons place our flesh and selves under God's Authority so God is able to use us for His Glory?
 
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The father has the highest authority in heaven.

The son has the highest authority on earth.

Anything else is a senseless argument
there is no Son, it's a Role that was played because God had to SACRIFICE HIMSELF for our SINS!
 
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from the moment Adam sinned, GOD, had to become flesh to Save us. it's a ROLE created before Adam was created.
 

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there is no Son, it's a Role that was played because God had to SACRIFICE HIMSELF for our SINS!
blanket statement. One of utter confusion from your magical mystery text.


Did he sacrifice his spirit to.

dangggggggg
 
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i gave Scripture, of God, in the Burning Bush: Exodus 3 and then 6
the SAME GOD, in John 8:58 : 58 Jesus said to them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I am.”
 
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i gave Scripture, of God, in the Burning Bush: Exodus 3 and then 6
the SAME GOD, in John 8:58 : 58 Jesus said to them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I am.”
in Exodus: Elohim/YHWH/YAHWEH claims He is [[TO BE]]

in John: Jesus, the WORD, fulfills the TO BE, and is now, I AM!!

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See, God created a Role from Old Testament and fulfilled in New Testament, just like the Plan for Salvation, because Adam would SIN!
 
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in Exodus: Elohim/YHWH/YAHWEH claims He is [[TO BE]]

in John: Jesus, the WORD, fulfills the TO BE, and is now, I AM!!

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See, God created a Role from Old Testament and fulfilled in New Testament, just like the Plan for Salvation, because Adam would SIN!
Jesus Christ was not, and is not, a "role." He is a man, the Christ, the Son of God.
 
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Jesus Christ was not, and is not, a "role." He is a man, the Christ, the Son of God.
He already told us He was Elohim/YHWH/YAHWEH/LORD/MOST HIGH GOD...ok, in the New Testament He is Jesus, HE is STILL the WORD and still what He said He was in Exodus....or....He would be a Liar!

He is all of those things. they are Roles in how God has dealt with us!
 
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He already told us He was Elohim/YHWH/YAHWEH/LORD/MOST HIGH GOD...
No he didn't. You're confusing God with Jesus Christ.

ok, in the New Testament He is Jesus, HE is STILL the WORD
He is God's word (logos, which means will, plan, purposes) made flesh, which happened when God miraculously caused Mary to conceive.

and still what He said He was in Exodus....or....He would be a Liar!
Jesus did not say those things in Exodus. He couldn't, he didn't exist yet.

He is all of those things. they are Roles in how God has dealt with us!
That's not true.

..I'm not going to continue to go round and round with you.

Have a great rest of the day.
 
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No he didn't. You're confusing God with Jesus Christ.


He is God's word (logos, which means will, plan, purposes) made flesh, which happened when God miraculously caused Mary to conceive.


Jesus did not say those things in Exodus. He couldn't, he didn't exist yet.


That's not true.

..I'm not going to continue to go round and round with you.

Have a great rest of the day.
you don't believe the Word /Jesus, made flesh [I AM]-(John 8:58), was God [TO BE]-(Exodus 3) in the Burning Bush?
 
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No he didn't. You're confusing God with Jesus Christ.


He is God's word (logos, which means will, plan, purposes) made flesh, which happened when God miraculously caused Mary to conceive.


Jesus did not say those things in Exodus. He couldn't, he didn't exist yet.


That's not true.

..I'm not going to continue to go round and round with you.

Have a great rest of the day.
the LORD REBUKE YOU!
 

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i know you are confused. you can't even use Scripture just write your own versions.
nope

The father spoke tongues through his people in the old testament on quite a few occasions it's mentioned.

Jeremiah 5:15 (ESV)
15 Behold, I am bringing against you
a nation from afar, O house of Israel,
declares the Lord.
It is an enduring nation;
it is an ancient nation,
a nation whose language you do not know,
nor can you understand what they say.

What was the land afar.


The language of tounges is also known as a devine eloquence something that is clearly lacking here, in your distraction from the discussion

A devine eloquence as in a heavenly language.

or a language of angels as referenced by Paul in corinth 13.1

It wouldn't be the language you hear of the Hebrew Aramaic or English.

it would be the spirit you would hear with a message for all reguardless of the language it was spoke in.
 
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nope

The father spoke tongues through his people in the old testament on quite a few occasions it's mentioned.

Jeremiah 5:15 (ESV)
15 Behold, I am bringing against you
a nation from afar, O house of Israel,
declares the Lord.
It is an enduring nation;
it is an ancient nation,
a nation whose language you do not know,
nor can you understand what they say.

What was the land afar.
you do realize that Jeremiah is prophesying about the last half of the Tribulation, here?
 

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you do realize that Jeremiah is prophesying about the last half of the Tribulation, here?
your denouncing the land afar and the reference of Paul indicating the language of tounges is a devine heavenly eloquent language also so spoken by the angels by the father.

The fathers angels only speak on God's authority.

By doing so your drifting further and further a way into your one track pony of a one and only mystical language that backs up all your claims

I would be surprised if you told us they only spoke your magical mystery language in heaven.
 
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your denouncing the land afar and the reference of Paul indicating the language of tounges is a devine heavenly eloquent language also so spoken by the angels by the father.

The fathers angels only speak on God's authority.

By doing so your drifting further and further a way into your one track pony of a one and only mystical language that backs up all your claims

I would be surprised if you told us they only spoke your magical mystery language in heaven.
it's ancient Babylon, read Revelation and become educated.