Prodigal son - eternally saved or the lost who found God

[Enow]

If we build on it wood, stubble, and hay of the things that defile the temple of God, God will destroy the flesh ( physical death ) ( verses 16-17 ) so that the spirit may be saved in the day of Jesus Christ ( see verse 15 of 1 Corinthians 3:10-17 ).

This is not what the verse means and if I'm understanding you then your saying a Christian that defiled the commandments of God will be destroyed by the flesh so that they may have a eternal life with God?

Feel free to explain the verses below, brother.

1 Corinthians 3:[SUP]10 [/SUP]According to the grace of God which is given unto me, as a wise masterbuilder, I have laid the foundation, and another buildeth thereon. But let every man take heed how he buildeth thereupon.[SUP]11 [/SUP]For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ.[SUP]12 [/SUP]Now if any man build upon this foundation gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble;[SUP]13 [/SUP]Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is.[SUP]14 [/SUP]If any man's work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward.[SUP]15 [/SUP]If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.[SUP]16 [/SUP]Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?[SUP]17 [/SUP]If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are.

Your body is the temple of the Holy Spirit...

1 Corinthians 6:[SUP]19 [/SUP]What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?[SUP]20 [/SUP]For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's.

What the church fail to correct & thus excommunicate an unrepentant believer, God will do at the pre tribulational rapture event, and that is why God will judge His House first, because of the falling away from the faith in mass droves.

1 Peter 4:[SUP]17 [/SUP]For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God?[SUP]18 [/SUP]And if the righteous scarcely be saved, where shall the ungodly and the sinner appear?[SUP]19 [/SUP]Wherefore let them that suffer according to the will of God commit the keeping of their souls to him in well doing, as unto a faithful Creator.

We can trust the Lord for He is faithful in the keeping of the souls of those saints left behind to suffer the fire coming on the earth and the subsequent coming of the great tribulation.

1 Corinthians 5:[SUP]4 [/SUP]In the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, when ye are gathered together, and my spirit, with the power of our Lord Jesus Christ,[SUP]5 [/SUP]To deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.

An example of this prophetic judgment can be seen here when a church was warned to repent or else;

Revelation 2:[SUP]18 [/SUP]And unto the angel of the church in Thyatira write; These things saith the Son of God, who hath his eyes like unto a flame of fire, and his feet are like fine brass;[SUP]19 [/SUP]I know thy works, and charity, and service, and faith, and thy patience, and thy works; and the last to be more than the first.[SUP]20 [/SUP]Notwithstanding I have a few things against thee, because thou sufferest that woman Jezebel, which calleth herself a prophetess, to teach and to seduce my servants to commit fornication, and to eat things sacrificed unto idols.[SUP]21 [/SUP]And I gave her space to repent of her fornication; and she repented not.[SUP]22 [/SUP]Behold, I will cast her into a bed, and them that commit adultery with her into great tribulation, except they repent of their deeds.[SUP]23[/SUP]And I will kill her children with death; and all the churches shall know that I am he which searcheth the reins and hearts: and I will give unto every one of you according to your works.[SUP]24 [/SUP]But unto you I say, and unto the rest in Thyatira, as many as have not this doctrine, and which have not known the depths of Satan, as they speak; I will put upon you none other burden.[SUP]25 [/SUP]But that which ye have already hold fast till I come.

That is why God was addressing the churches in Revelation to prepare & to be ready by faith in Him.......... or else.

This is where the vessels unto dishonor comes from as they are the castaways for failing to run that race by faith in Jesus Christ as their Good Shepherd to lay aside every weight & sin as our confidence is in Him to finish the race for us.

 

[PeterJens]

Hidden sin, on going rebellion without resolution.

People lie so easily but look at their theology. The heart will hide the real sin though often
it is very plain. How often is it sexual with the wrong partner, and to even question this is
out of bounds.

Dress up the hypocrisy in a rail against legalism and righteousness, but this is all a lie and
God is not mocked.

Stand like this and judgment will fall. But people so easily believe righteousness is too hard
from the enemy as they fall into hell.

It is a wonder how such hypocrisy is lived with every day. What a farce. I know how hard these
places are but the Lord brings resolution is you seek His face.

 

[Roughsoul1991]

Feel free to explain the verses below, brother.

1 Corinthians 3:[SUP]10 [/SUP]According to the grace of God which is given unto me, as a wise masterbuilder, I have laid the foundation, and another buildeth thereon. But let every man take heed how he buildeth thereupon.[SUP]11 [/SUP]For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ.[SUP]12 [/SUP]Now if any man build upon this foundation gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble;[SUP]13 [/SUP]Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is.[SUP]14 [/SUP]If any man's work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward.[SUP]15 [/SUP]If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.[SUP]16 [/SUP]Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?[SUP]17 [/SUP]If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are.

Your body is the temple of the Holy Spirit...

1 Corinthians 6:[SUP]19 [/SUP]What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?[SUP]20 [/SUP]For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's.

What the church fail to correct & thus excommunicate an unrepentant believer, God will do at the pre tribulational rapture event, and that is why God will judge His House first, because of the falling away from the faith in mass droves.

1 Peter 4:[SUP]17 [/SUP]For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God?[SUP]18 [/SUP]And if the righteous scarcely be saved, where shall the ungodly and the sinner appear?[SUP]19 [/SUP]Wherefore let them that suffer according to the will of God commit the keeping of their souls to him in well doing, as unto a faithful Creator.

We can trust the Lord for He is faithful in the keeping of the souls of those saints left behind to suffer the fire coming on the earth and the subsequent coming of the great tribulation.

1 Corinthians 5:[SUP]4 [/SUP]In the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, when ye are gathered together, and my spirit, with the power of our Lord Jesus Christ,[SUP]5 [/SUP]To deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.

An example of this prophetic judgment can be seen here when a church was warned to repent or else;

Revelation 2:[SUP]18 [/SUP]And unto the angel of the church in Thyatira write; These things saith the Son of God, who hath his eyes like unto a flame of fire, and his feet are like fine brass;[SUP]19 [/SUP]I know thy works, and charity, and service, and faith, and thy patience, and thy works; and the last to be more than the first.[SUP]20 [/SUP]Notwithstanding I have a few things against thee, because thou sufferest that woman Jezebel, which calleth herself a prophetess, to teach and to seduce my servants to commit fornication, and to eat things sacrificed unto idols.[SUP]21 [/SUP]And I gave her space to repent of her fornication; and she repented not.[SUP]22 [/SUP]Behold, I will cast her into a bed, and them that commit adultery with her into great tribulation, except they repent of their deeds.[SUP]23[/SUP]And I will kill her children with death; and all the churches shall know that I am he which searcheth the reins and hearts: and I will give unto every one of you according to your works.[SUP]24 [/SUP]But unto you I say, and unto the rest in Thyatira, as many as have not this doctrine, and which have not known the depths of Satan, as they speak; I will put upon you none other burden.[SUP]25 [/SUP]But that which ye have already hold fast till I come.

That is why God was addressing the churches in Revelation to prepare & to be ready by faith in Him.......... or else.

This is where the vessels unto dishonor comes from as they are the castaways for failing to run that race by faith in Jesus Christ as their Good Shepherd to lay aside every weight & sin as our confidence is in Him to finish the race for us.

1Corinthians 3:15

That is, as fire would consume the wood, hay, and stubble, so on the great Day everything that is erroneous and imperfect in Christiana shall be removed, and that which is true and genuine shall be preserved as if it had passed through fire. Their whole character and opinions shall be investigated; and that which is good shall be approved; and that which is false and erroneous be removed.

I think just your wording you used to explain this verse was confusing.

 

[followjesus]

Feel free to explain the verses below, brother.

1 Corinthians 3:[SUP]10 [/SUP]According to the grace of God which is given unto me, as a wise masterbuilder, I have laid the foundation, and another buildeth thereon. But let every man take heed how he buildeth thereupon.[SUP]11 [/SUP]For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ.[SUP]12 [/SUP]Now if any man build upon this foundation gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble;[SUP]13 [/SUP]Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is.[SUP]14 [/SUP]If any man's work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward.[SUP]15 [/SUP]If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.[SUP]16 [/SUP]Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?[SUP]17 [/SUP]If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are.

Your body is the temple of the Holy Spirit...

1 Corinthians 6:[SUP]19 [/SUP]What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?[SUP]20 [/SUP]For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's.

What the church fail to correct & thus excommunicate an unrepentant believer, God will do at the pre tribulational rapture event, and that is why God will judge His House first, because of the falling away from the faith in mass droves.

1 Peter 4:[SUP]17 [/SUP]For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God?[SUP]18 [/SUP]And if the righteous scarcely be saved, where shall the ungodly and the sinner appear?[SUP]19 [/SUP]Wherefore let them that suffer according to the will of God commit the keeping of their souls to him in well doing, as unto a faithful Creator.

We can trust the Lord for He is faithful in the keeping of the souls of those saints left behind to suffer the fire coming on the earth and the subsequent coming of the great tribulation.

1 Corinthians 5:[SUP]4 [/SUP]In the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, when ye are gathered together, and my spirit, with the power of our Lord Jesus Christ,[SUP]5 [/SUP]To deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.

An example of this prophetic judgment can be seen here when a church was warned to repent or else;

Revelation 2:[SUP]18 [/SUP]And unto the angel of the church in Thyatira write; These things saith the Son of God, who hath his eyes like unto a flame of fire, and his feet are like fine brass;[SUP]19 [/SUP]I know thy works, and charity, and service, and faith, and thy patience, and thy works; and the last to be more than the first.[SUP]20 [/SUP]Notwithstanding I have a few things against thee, because thou sufferest that woman Jezebel, which calleth herself a prophetess, to teach and to seduce my servants to commit fornication, and to eat things sacrificed unto idols.[SUP]21 [/SUP]And I gave her space to repent of her fornication; and she repented not.[SUP]22 [/SUP]Behold, I will cast her into a bed, and them that commit adultery with her into great tribulation, except they repent of their deeds.[SUP]23[/SUP]And I will kill her children with death; and all the churches shall know that I am he which searcheth the reins and hearts: and I will give unto every one of you according to your works.[SUP]24 [/SUP]But unto you I say, and unto the rest in Thyatira, as many as have not this doctrine, and which have not known the depths of Satan, as they speak; I will put upon you none other burden.[SUP]25 [/SUP]But that which ye have already hold fast till I come.

That is why God was addressing the churches in Revelation to prepare & to be ready by faith in Him.......... or else.

This is where the vessels unto dishonor comes from as they are the castaways for failing to run that race by faith in Jesus Christ as their Good Shepherd to lay aside every weight & sin as our confidence is in Him to finish the race for us.

People miss that the prodigal son, broke down and humbled Himself recognized His sin, and repented and turned Back toward Home. The Father never sent people to Drag him home against His will. He Loved His Sons equally, One chose to stay and One chose to go His own way, after He realized " My way is the wrong way...he repented and made the choiice realizing the Fathers Love, to return Home." its a call to repentance and the promise of acceptance by the Father for those who return to Him.

james 4:7- 8"SUBMIT yourselves therefore TO GOD. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you. DRAW NIGH to God, AND HE WILL draw nigh to you. Cleanse your hands, ye sinners; and purify your hearts, ye double minded"


isaiah 1:15-And when ye spread forth your hands, I will hide mine eyes from you: yea, when ye make many prayers, I will not hear: your hands are full of blood. 16Wash you, make you clean; put away the EVIL OF YOUR DOINGS from before mine eyes; CEASE TO DO EVIL; 17 LEARN TO DO WELL ; SEEK JUDGEMENT, relieve the oppressed, judge the fatherless, plead for the widow.
18Come now, and let us reason together, saith the LORD: though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool. 19If ye be WILLING AND OBEDIENT, ye shall eat the good of the land: 20But IF YE REFUSE AND REBEL, ye shall be devoured with the sword: for the mouth of the LORD hath spoken it."




Psalm 34:13-18 "DEPART FROM EVIL, and DO GOOD; SEEK peace, and PURSUE it. 15The eyes of the LORD are upon the righteous, and his ears are open unto their cry 16The face of the LORD is against them that do evil, to cut off the remembrance of them from the earth. 17The RIGHTEOUS cry, and the LORD heareth, and DELIVERETH THEM out of all their troubles. 18The LORD is nigh unto them that are of a broken heart; and saveth such as be of a CONTRITE spirit."


exactly the same thing taught By the One Jesus gave the keys to the Kingdom to. One man speaking under the old covenant before Jesus came and was resurrected after Having died * (romans , One who certainly without a doubt understood Jesus Christ and was full of the Holy spirit, and was One of the founders of the Church we profess.


1 peter 3:10-13 "For he that will love life, and see good days, let him refrain his tongue from evil, and his lips that they speak no guile: 11Let him ESCHEW EVIL, and DO GOOD ; let him SEEK peace, and ENSUE it. 12For the eyes of the Lord are over the righteous, and his ears are open unto their prayers: but the face of the Lord is against them that do evil. 13And who is he that will harm you, if ye be followers of that which is good?"

 

[Enow]

1Corinthians 3:15

That is, as fire would consume the wood, hay, and stubble, so on the great Day everything that is erroneous and imperfect in Christiana shall be removed, and that which is true and genuine shall be preserved as if it had passed through fire. Their whole character and opinions shall be investigated; and that which is good shall be approved; and that which is false and erroneous be removed.

I think just your wording you used to explain this verse was confusing.

That does not explain why Paul testify to those defiling the temple of God in how they will be destroyed in verses 16-17.

So those wood, stubble, and hay that gets burned up are all iniquities that denies Him; where they get denied and become castaway in becoming vessels unto dishonor in His House at the pre trib rapture event when God will be judging His House first.

The receiving of the elect as vessels unto honor and leaving behind the castaways as to why there are vessels unto dishonor in His House shows how in that day, shows God excommunicating unrepentant & former believers to deliver them unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh so that the spirit may be saved in the day of Christ Jesus.

 

[Enow]

People miss that the prodigal son, broke down and humbled Himself recognized His sin, and repented and turned Back toward Home. The Father never sent people to Drag him home against His will. He Loved His Sons equally, One chose to stay and One chose to go His own way, after He realized " My way is the wrong way...he repented and made the choiice realizing the Fathers Love, to return Home." its a call to repentance and the promise of acceptance by the Father for those who return to Him.

Being left behind at the pre trib rapture event is when the wayward will find an inescapable reason to seek Him again.

But presently, and as He leads, we should seek the little ones that have gone astray, hoping He is peradventuring to recover.

2 Timothy 2:[SUP]24 [/SUP]And the servant of the Lord must not strive; but be gentle unto all men, apt to teach, patient,[SUP]25 [/SUP]In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth;[SUP]26 [/SUP]And that they may recover themselves out of the snare of the devil, who are taken captive by him at his will.

Matthew 18:[SUP]10 [/SUP]Take heed that ye despise not one of these little ones; for I say unto you, That in heaven their angels do always behold the face of my Father which is in heaven.[SUP]11 [/SUP]For the Son of man is come to save that which was lost.[SUP]12 [/SUP]How think ye? if a man have an hundred sheep, and one of them be gone astray, doth he not leave the ninety and nine, and goeth into the mountains, and seeketh that which is gone astray?[SUP]13 [/SUP]And if so be that he find it, verily I say unto you, he rejoiceth more of that sheep, than of the ninety and nine which went not astray.[SUP]14 [/SUP]Even so it is not the will of your Father which is in heaven, that one of these little ones should perish.[SUP]15 [/SUP]Moreover if thy brother shall trespass against thee, go and tell him his fault between thee and him alone: if he shall hear thee, thou hast gained thy brother.[SUP]16 [/SUP]But if he will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.[SUP]17 [/SUP]And if he shall neglect to hear them, tell it unto the church: but if he neglect to hear the church, let him be unto thee as an heathen man and a publican.

So as the church excommunicate the unrepentant believer, so will God do at the pre trib rapture for this purpose of finding the lost sheep.

1 Corinthians 15:[SUP]4 [/SUP]In the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, when ye are gathered together, and my spirit, with the power of our Lord Jesus Christ,[SUP]5 [/SUP]To deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.

So what better way for a church to lead an unrepentant believer than to excommunicate him to lead him to repentance? If he does not repent, then when he has been left behind as excommunicated by God, he will realize how much his life just went to ruins for loving it more than God to seek God the Father again.