Proof That Catholics Worship Mary

[CS1]

"I am the LORD: that is my name: and my glory will I not give to another, neither my praise to graven images." —Isaiah 42:8

There is not a more damnable doctrine in Roman Catholicism than the teachings ofOur Lady of Fatima. Roman Catholic officials claim that a supernatural event occurred in 1917 in which theBlessed Virgin Maryappeared repeatedly to 3 little children in Fatima, Portugal. Supposedly, theVirgin Marygave a message to the 3 children—Lucia, Jacinta and Francisco—consisting of anallegednumber of precise predictions, requests, warnings andpromisesconcerning the Catholic faith. An "apparition" means "the unexpected or unusual appearance of a ghostly figure."

The 5th of the15 promisesmade byOur Lady of Fatimaconcerning the Rosary is so blasphemous that it is unmistakable, clear, proof, that Catholics do indeed worship Mary (which is sinful idolatry). Here's the 5th promise...

The soul which recommends itself to Me by the recitation of the Rosary, shall not perish. —SOURCE

Blasphemy!!! You cannot show me even one Scripture from the Word of God where we are told to trust in Mary, by reciting theRosaryto be saved. In fact, the word "Rosary" is NOT a Bible term. TheRosary is straight out of the pits of Hell. Jesus condemnedvain repetitionin Matthew 6:7. According toOur Lady of Fatima(whose teachings are officially sanctioned by the Vatican), a person can obtain eternal life through Mary by reciting the Rosary. In sharp contrast, Jesus Christ proclaimed in John 14:6... "I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father,but by me." How could Catholics be so arrogant, so blind, and so apostate as to believe that salvation is found in Mary? I tell you, Catholicism is of the Devil.

The Gospel of Jesus Christ has absolutely nothing to do with Mary. None of the Apostles ever mentioned Mary in their Epistles. Jesus never directed us to recognize Mary. In fact, the Bible clearly states in Matthew 11:11 that there has never been a child born amongst women greater thanJohn the Baptist. And no wonder, becauseJohn the Baptistprepared the people for the coming of the Savior—Jesus Christ,the Lamb of God which taketh away the sins of the world(John 1:29). Yet, Catholics sinfully worship Mary, bowing to her statue as if she's a god.Unbelievably, during one rosary recital (a chaplet), a Catholic will recite 53 hail Marys! Each "Hail Mary" recital is 42 words long. 42 x 53 = 2,226 words just praising Mary! The devout Catholic who prays the rosary every day will praise Mary with 812,490 words in a year's time. That is idolatry! Again,Our Lady of Fatimasaid...

The soul which recommends itself to Me by the recitation of the Rosary, shall not perish. —SOURCE

That's a BIG LIE!!! The Vatican has a lot of explaining to do, because something smells very rotten. One of the most unholy groups in this world is the Holy See, i.e., Catholic leadership. They wrote the book on self-righteousness. No devout Catholic dare deny the promises ofOur Lady of Fatima, i.e., theirBlessed Virgin Mary. The Catholic Mary (which is nowhere even close to the Biblical Mary) claims to have the power to save those who recite the Rosary. No wonder Catholicism's Mary is often referred to asThe Great Whore. Catholics have mutated Jesus' earthly mother into a two-headed, fire-breathing, demonic, monster.

The Biblical Mary was a horrible sinner (James 2:10), who needed a Savior (Luke 1:47), and told others to do what Jesus commanded (John 2:5). The Biblical Mary was not a Perpetual Virgin(Matthew 13:55-56), was not mmaculately Conceived(Romans 3:23), wasn'tBodily Assumed into Heaven (Hebrews 9:27), and she doesn't intercede on our behalf (1st Timothy 2:5... "For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus"). The Blessed Virgin Mary of the Catholic religion is straight from Hell.

Oh! Listen my friend, the Catholic Church is aprisonhouseof religion! Catholics have churchianity without Christianity, and religion without truth. From the cradle to the casket, the Catholic Church offers people a package deal; but it's a guaranteed road straight into the depths of Hellfire and damnation. In Luke 17:21, Jesus stated that theKingdom of Godis within you; not within a religious organization. Many people want an organized religion that allows them to touch, taste, see, and feel what they're trusting in for eternal life. However, true salvation, which is obtained onlyby faithin Christ Jesus, isof the heart(Romans 10:10).

I hear you but,

Mary, the Mother of Jesus scriptures, says she is to be called blessed and honored.

Luke 1:28 - And the angel came in unto her, and said, Hail, thou that art highly favoured, the Lord is with thee: blessed art thou among women.
Luke 1:38 - And Mary said, Behold the handmaid of the Lord; be it unto me according to thy word. And the angel departed from her.

 

[CS1]

I will say one thing: I ain't going to talk smack about Jesus, Momma.

 

[Blade]

Two things.. Christ said if you were blind you would have no sin. You say you see your sin remains.

I like what man who is home now said "why can't Catholics be right about Jesus but wrong about Mary?"

 

[Cameron143]

I will say one thing: I ain't going to talk smack about Jesus, Momma.

You aren't going to bow down before her and worship her either.

 

[maxwel]

I hear you but,

Mary, the Mother of Jesus scriptures, says she is to be called blessed and honored.

Luke 1:28 - And the angel came in unto her, and said, Hail, thou that art highly favoured, the Lord is with thee: blessed art thou among women.
Luke 1:38 - And Mary said, Behold the handmaid of the Lord; be it unto me according to thy word. And the angel departed from her.

That's not actually what scripture says.

It doesn't say we HAVE to call her blessed, or REVERE her.
it just says she WAS blessed.
God blessed her in a great way.
She WAS blessed... was blessed.
It says nothing about what WE must do... this is about what GOD did, not what WE must do.
Wrong focus.

You know what?
God blesses me all the time.
You aren't obligated to revere me.
: )
I know you're glad to hear that.




When it comes to sorting out doctrine, all of these nitpicky things matter.
You have a great week.

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[Cameron143]

That's not actually what scripture says.

It doesn't say we HAVE to call her blessed, or REVERE her.
it just says she WAS blessed.
God blessed her in a great way.
She WAS blessed... was blessed.
It says nothing about what WE must do... this is about what GOD did, not what WE must do.
Wrong focus.

You know what?
God blesses me all the time.
You aren't obligated to revere me.
: )
I know you're glad to hear that.




When it comes to sorting out doctrine, all of these nitpicky things matter.
You have a great week.

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I grovel at your feet oh blessed one.

 

[Eli1]

To add a few more thoughts on mother Mary, what the Orthodox and Catholic church has done here is the classic "Pull a verse out of the Bible and build a church around it".
Take the Baptists for example.
Because they love baptism, they try to elevate this part in their worship of God so i am not going to be mad at them for trying to elevate this point of the Bible and build a church around it.
I see good people in there too.

 

[maxwel]

To add a few more thoughts on mother Mary, what the Orthodox and Catholic church has done here is the classic "Pull a verse out of the Bible and build a church around it".
Take the Baptists for example.
Because they love baptism, they try to elevate this part in their worship of God so i am not going to be mad at them for trying to elevate this point of the Bible and build a church around it.
I see good people in there too.

Good point, wrong analogy.
That's not what Baptists believe; it's quite the opposite.

But the overall point still works.
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[Eli1]

Good point, wrong analogy.
That's not what Baptists believe; it's quite the opposite.

But the overall point still works.
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Ah okay, sorry.

 

[maxwel]

Ah okay, sorry.

I was starting to feel like all generations would call you blessed... and then you did that.
I think you blew it.

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[Eli1]

I was starting to feel like all generations would call you blessed... and then you did that.
I think you blew it.

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I don't know a whole lot about what certain Protestant denominations believe but the non-denominational church i visit from time to time, has a nice atmosphere. They play the guitar in there, sing some songs, do a few plays about the Bible and they read the Bible.
Overall very nice folks.

 

[CS1]

You aren't going to bow down before her and worship her either.

True

 

[CS1]

That's not actually what scripture says.

It doesn't say we HAVE to call her blessed, or REVERE her.
it just says she WAS blessed.
God blessed her in a great way.
She WAS blessed... was blessed.
It says nothing about what WE must do... this is about what GOD did, not what WE must do.
Wrong focus.

You know what?
God blesses me all the time.
You aren't obligated to revere me.
: )
I know you're glad to hear that.




When it comes to sorting out doctrine, all of these nitpicky things matter.
You have a great week.

.

I believe the text says


Luke 1:48-50 King James Version (KJV)

For he hath regarded the low estate of his handmaiden: For, behold, from henceforth all generations shall call me blessed. For he that is mighty hath done to me great things; And holy is his name. And his mercy is on them that fear him From generation to generation.

 

[MerSee]

Revelation 12:11-15
11 And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of the testimony, and they loved not their lives unto death. 12 Therefore rejoice, O heavens, and you that dwell therein. Woe to the earth, and to the sea, because the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, knowing that he hath but a short time. 13 And when the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth, he persecuted the woman, who brought forth the man child. 14 And there were given to the woman two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the desert unto her place, where she is nourished for a time and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent. 15 And the serpent cast out of his mouth after the woman, water as it were a river; that he might cause her to be carried away by the river.

 

[maxwel]

I believe the text says
Luke 1:48-50 King James Version (KJV)
all generations shall call me blessed.

Luke 1:48 "... all generations shall call me blessed."

That is not an imperative, not a command - thus it places no obligation or duty upon anyone to do anything.
It is statement about the future, a statement that people will RECOGNIZE Mary was blessed; it is not a command to reverence or worship her.



Some Explanation:


1.) Mary was indeed blessed, she was greatly blessed by God.


2.) However, that blessing was a work of God, not a work of Mary.
Luke 1:42 “Blessed are you among women,"
a. The focus is all about what God did, not what Mary did, and not what future generations are obligated to do toward her.
b. The focus here is on the work of God.
c. It is God that does the blessing, Mary just received blessing, just as all of us receive blessing... it's just that Mary's blessing was especially unique in history.



3.) Mary then praised God, and spoke of the future, knowing that all generations would know she was blessed, because she would bear the Messiah.
Luke 1:48 "... all generations shall call me blessed."
a. This was an acknowledgment, an acknowledgement that all people would recognize what God had done, and how fortunate Mary was... not a claim that Mary was to be revered.
b. This is about GOD's great work, not Mary's work. This is about God's glory, not Mary's glory.
c. There is also no imperative in this statement, no command for anyone in the future to do anything toward Mary... it's just an acknowledgement that people in the future will know what happened.


4.) When Mary praised God, thrilled to be chosen to bear the Messiah, and knowing that all generations would call her blessed by God... this was all about GOD, it was all the about the WORK OF GOD... not about Mary.
a. she gave no glory to herself
b. she gave all glory to God
c. God blessed her by choosing her to bear the messiah... God did the work, and God received all the glory.
d. There is no imperative, no command, not anywhere, for anyone, at any time, to revere or worship Mary.




Again, when we get into doctrinal issues, we are forced, by necessity, to dig carefully into the text and nitpick over what it says.
God Bless.


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[Evmur]

This is the topic where other denominations answer questions for Protestants.
Let's begin.

Q. Where in the Bible does it say to worship Mary?
A. It doesn't. This comes mainly from tradition.

Q. Do they really worship Mary or do they respect her like other saints like Paul?
A. This depends on the church and the growth of the Christian. Technically, they're not supposed to worship Mary, they are to respect her, but some people do worship her.

Q. What's the deal with the icons?
A. Icons are meant to be a gateway to your emotion towards God. So you're not idolizing a piece of wood or iron.

What else do you guys need to know?

outward religion is a sure sign inner emptiness

 

[Evmur]

If you carefully check the words of the traditional Latin Mass, Mary is given the same level of worship as God.

And where does the Bible say that we are to confess our sins to the following: Mary, Michael the Archangel, John the Baptist, and Peter and Paul? If they were to address this Mass, they would severely rebuke the priest. These people are on the same level as Almighty God!

THE TRADITIONAL LATIN MASSS
"I confess to Almighty God, to blessed Mary ever Virgin, to blessed Michael the Archangel, to blessed John the Baptist, to the holy Apostles Peter and Paul, to all the Saints, and to you Father, that I have sinned exceedingly, in thought, word and deed:

He strikes his breast three times through my fault, through my fault, through my most grievous fault.

Therefore I beseech blessed Mary ever Virgin, blessed John the Baptist, the holy Apostles Peter and Paul, all the Saints, and you Father, to pray to the Lord our God for me."

Now where is the Lord Jesus Christ in all this? Has Mary not replaced Him here. In practical terms, Mary is treated as a substitute for Christ, and Salve Regina proves it:

Hail, Holy Queen, Mother of Mercy,
our life, our sweetness and our hope.
To thee do we cry,
poor banished children of Eve.
To thee do we send up our sighs,
mourning and weeping in this valley of tears.
Turn then, most gracious advocate,
thine eyes of mercy toward us,
and after this our exile
show unto us the blessed fruit of thy womb, Jesus.
O clement, O loving,
O sweet Virgin Mary.

People think "The Immaculate Conception" refers to Christ being born of a virgin. The doctrine actually teaches that Mary was conceived without sin.

 

[Nehemiah6]

People think "The Immaculate Conception" refers to Christ being born of a virgin. The doctrine actually teaches that Mary was conceived without sin.

Correct. Add to that the Perpetual Virginity of Mary, and her being called "Queen of Heaven", and we have some very serious issues.

Mary is no doubt in Heaven with Christ, but she must be sore displeased with the Vatican and the Church of Rome. As well as the Eastern Orthodox churches (who venerate Mary but not like the Catholic Church).

It would appear that around the 4th or 5th century someone called Mary -- the mother of Jesus of Nazareth -- Theotokos -- the Mother of God! Except that God is the triune Godhead, being the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. And God -- by definition -- has no mother.

But did anyone stop to ask this simple question: "Can the everlasting God have a mother?" It would appear that Cyril of Alexandria (4th to 5th centuries) first insisted that Mary be called Theotokos. So gradually she became something which is never hinted at in the Bible. Nowhere in Scripture will one see Mary being described as "the Mother of God". But Scripture takes second place to "Holy Tradition".

 

[Evmur]

Correct. Add to that the Perpetual Virginity of Mary, and her being called "Queen of Heaven", and we have some very serious issues.

Mary is no doubt in Heaven with Christ, but she must be sore displeased with the Vatican and the Church of Rome. As well as the Eastern Orthodox churches (who venerate Mary but not like the Catholic Church).

It would appear that around the 4th or 5th century someone called Mary -- the mother of Jesus of Nazareth -- Theotokos -- the Mother of God! Except that God is the triune Godhead, being the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. And God -- by definition -- has no mother.

But did anyone stop to ask this simple question: "Can the everlasting God have a mother?" It would appear that Cyril of Alexandria (4th to 5th centuries) first insisted that Mary be called Theotokos. So gradually she became something which is never hinted at in the Bible. Nowhere in Scripture will one see Mary being described as "the Mother of God". But Scripture takes second place to "Holy Tradition".

It is a practically universal belief that the corruption of the church happened gradually over many centuries but that's not true. The church swerved off the truth within a few years after the apostles were gone.

Ignatias founded episcopalian religion which became Catholicism, he is the first to call it the Catholic church.

He taught that the bishop was to be received and obeyed as though he were Christ in person ... there you have it. Jesus was no longer Head of His body the church.

Now people ask why did the gifts of the Holy Spirit cease in the early church and this is the reason, the Holy Spirit will never bear witness to a lie, He still works secretly in the Catholic church to this day. Within a few short years they were worshipping the bread. The 7 gifts of the Holy Spirit were replaced by the 7 sacraments.

... this is what brought on the awful persecution of that time.

 

[MerSee]

Correct. Add to that the Perpetual Virginity of Mary, and her being called "Queen of Heaven", and we have some very serious issues.

Mary is no doubt in Heaven with Christ, but she must be sore displeased with the Vatican and the Church of Rome. As well as the Eastern Orthodox churches (who venerate Mary but not like the Catholic Church).

It would appear that around the 4th or 5th century someone called Mary -- the mother of Jesus of Nazareth -- Theotokos -- the Mother of God! Except that God is the triune Godhead, being the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. And God -- by definition -- has no mother.

But did anyone stop to ask this simple question: "Can the everlasting God have a mother?" It would appear that Cyril of Alexandria (4th to 5th centuries) first insisted that Mary be called Theotokos. So gradually she became something which is never hinted at in the Bible. Nowhere in Scripture will one see Mary being described as "the Mother of God". But Scripture takes second place to "Holy Tradition".

By whom was the first list of the books of the Bible drawn up? Pope Damasus, at the Roman Council of 382 A.D.