Prophecies Fulfilled In Modern Israel

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zone

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Until "Christians" learn about the history of Israel from a biblical perspective, the "stereotyping" of every "Israeli hating Christians" needs to stop. It's a very bad witness...and obviously not winning the lost to Christ (to the Jew first, and also to the Greek).
you have no idea what the bible says about Israel or Israel's history.

your dispensational apologetic is antichrist.
so i find your lecturing hollow (i am being kind).

now about those Muslims who need Jesus and get stereotyped....they don't have the Father because they reject the Son.

same with jews or anyone who rejects Christ.
 

zone

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Does that bother you Praus? Having those things in his heart bothers you? Why should that bother you? It just makes the need for mercy that much greater. God has to put mercy in your heart to be like your Father in heaven, the father of all mercies. He has concluded ALL in unbelief that he might have mercy on ALL. Christ was wounded for their transgressions and bruised for their iniquities.

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John Hagee Praying For War Against Iran

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zone

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The order of events concerning the resurrections would be:

1- the resurrection of Christ (1Cor 15:23)
2- the resurrection of the church at the rapture (1Thes 4:16)
3- the resurrection of the tribulation saints (Rev 20:3-5) together with...
4- the old testament saints (Dan 12:2, Is 26:19) at the second coming of Christ to the earth
5- the final resurrection of the unsaved dead (Rev 20:5, 11-14) at the end of the 1,000 reign or millennial age

The first (4) stages would all be included in the first resurrection or resurrection to life, in as much all receive eternal life and the last stage would be the second resurrection or the resurrection unto damnation, in as much as all receive eternal judgment and condemnation at that time.
4 resurrections.
rubbish.

you've never really read the Bible.
just lunatic commentaries.
 
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Linda70

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"After the flesh?"
A better term would probably have been "my kinsmen according to the flesh"....

Romans 9:3 For I could wish that myself were accursed from Christ for my brethren, my kinsmen according to the flesh:

IOW, the Jewish people are "my kin"...family.
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What is your point with posting these articles that are obviously "aimed" at crime and prostitution in Israel? Do you not think that there is crime and prostitution among the "nations" (Gentiles). We all know that there is sin in this world....so what's your point?

Once again, you are "derailing" the thread.
 

Blain

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4 resurrections.
rubbish.

you've never really read the Bible.
just lunatic commentaries.
sigh... Zone we have been over this, we are called to love. even if something seems crazy to you this is not how you should respond. remember, speak in love and kindness. be patient and gentle.
 

zone

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sigh... Zone we have been over this, we are called to love. even if something seems crazy to you this is not how you should respond. remember, speak in love and kindness. be patient and gentle.
we are called to LOVE CHRIST AND HIS TRUTH...and HIS brothers...who are our brothers.

brothers don't teach heresy for years on end.

IF we hold fast to sound doctrine we are in the THE FAITH...if not, well...have at it.
the truth is simple and clearly revealed.

this other stuff from grown adults with access to the Bible is inexcusable.

the Holy Spirit appears to be absent from the minds of some.
they pimp this antichrist dogma for years.
 
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BradC

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[video=youtube;udBM22ZhxBI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udBM22ZhxBI[/video]

John Hagee Praying For War Against Iran

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Would you like to video your prayer for the people of Israel so that we can see what is in your heart? If God's redeemed were going to suffer persecution at the hands of the government, how would you pray for the government or would you forego prayer and despise government and expose them any way you could? Do you have the same zeal against the Gentiles, who despise Christ and the church despite having the gospel delivered to them, as you do against the Jews who reject Christ and live with an evil heart of unbelief?
 
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BradC

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we are called to LOVE CHRIST AND HIS TRUTH...and HIS brothers...who are our borthers.

brothers don't teach heresy for years on end.

this other stuff from grown adults with access to the Bible is inexcusable.

the Holy Spirit appears to be absent from the minds of some.
they pimp this antichrist dogma for years.
EYES WIDE SHUT!
 

Blain

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we are called to LOVE CHRIST AND HIS TRUTH.

this other stuff from grown adults with access to the Bible is inexcusable.

the Holy Spirit appears to be absent from the minds of some.
they pimp this antichrist dogma for years.
Zone Christ and his truth is love all peoples as he did. I see so much hate in words and posts, if we Christians are not to be love then who will? The truth is love
 

zone

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Zone Christ and his truth is love all peoples as he did. I see so much hate in words and posts, if we Christians are not to be love then who will? The truth is love
i am not called to love false doctrine - antichrist doctrine.
not called to tolerate false prophets; lying prophets.
 

Blain

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i am not called to love false doctrine - antichrist doctrine.
not called to tolerate false prophets; lying prophets.
Perhaps not false doctrine but as for the person that is exactly what Jesus taught us to love. I am sorry zone but with all that hate in your heart you do not know God and if you are never to soften it you never will.
 

zone

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Perhaps not false doctrine but as for the person that is exactly what Jesus taught us to love. I am sorry zone but with all that hate in your heart you do not know God and if you are never to soften it you never will.
i hate false doctrine.

i'm allowed to. supposed to.

sorry son, you can take to your automatic writings and visions and dreams and voices.
not interested.

doesn't mean i hate YOU.
 
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A better term would probably have been "my kinsmen according to the flesh"....

Romans 9:3 For I could wish that myself were accursed from Christ for my brethren, my kinsmen according to the flesh:

IOW, the Jewish people are "my kin"...family.
Matt 10:37 He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me.

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What is your point with posting these articles that are obviously "aimed" at crime and prostitution in Israel? Do you not think that there is crime and prostitution among the "nations" (Gentiles). We all know that there is sin in this world....so what's your point?

Once again, you are "derailing" the thread.
I'm sorry!

I see now that this thread is about "crime and prostitution among the "nations" (Gentiles)"--ok, I can work with that.

Lev 19:29 ¶ Do not prostitute thy daughter, to cause her to be a whore; lest the land fall to whoredom, and the land become full of wickedness.

Deut 23:17 ¶ There shall be no whore of the daughters of Israel, nor a sodomite of the sons of Israel.
 
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Graybeard

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To Linda70
Dear Linda
Greetings to you in the name of Jesus Christ our Lord and Savior,
I would urge you to ignore those who disagree with venom on their tongues
you will notice that in every thread that has Israel as its topic, there are
some here that are mandated to derail the thread with posts that are filled
with hatred and malice toward anything that is contrary to their belief on
the subject of Israel. Not only will they pout their malice with pride, but they will
fill the thread with articles that, to be honest, appear to have been scavenged from
the garbage cans of theologians of whom they follow.
It fills me with sadness as these people who claim to be filled with The Holy Spirit spew
out nothing but attacks and bitterness yet claim to yield the fruit of love that we read about
in the very Scriptures that they themselves have in their possession.
I myself have fallen to their skillful ways of invoking ones anger and have asked God for
forgiveness. They will stop at nothing to get you to respond in a manner likened to their way
and then they will claim victory.

I encourage you to continue in your belief as testing it with The Word Of God, I for one
credit you as rightfully dividing the Word. What is written is written and no matter what
those say contrary to it, does not matter as God will ALWAYS have the last say.
What a day of rejoicing it is going to be when Israel comes to the full knowledge of Jesus Christ!
just as it is written..amen!

May you be blessed in your golden years with happiness and filled with
His love
 
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Zone Christ and his truth is love all peoples as he did.
Matt 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.

I see so much hate in words and posts,
Eccl 3:8 ... a time of war, and a time of peace.

if we Christians are not to be love then who will?
Luke 14:26 If any [man] come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.

The truth is love
The purpose of antichrist doctrine is, by definition, designed to lead people away from Jesus Christ--that's not love for others or for God.

Heb 10:12-13 But this man, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God; From henceforth expecting till his enemies be made his footstool.

Gold star for Zone!
 
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Anderson is not alone in sharing this sentiment, the Aryan Nation, Ku Klux Klan and Catholic Church agree with him.
Indeed, racism is odious and detrimental to humanity.

Yes there are Jews....I am one.

the Jewish people (my brethren after the flesh), I get very upset.
A better term would probably have been "my kinsmen according to the flesh"....
IOW, the Jewish people are "my kin"...family.

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BradC

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you have no idea what the bible says about Israel or Israel's history.

your dispensational apologetic is antichrist.
so i find your lecturing hollow (i am being kind).

now about those Muslims who need Jesus and get stereotyped....they don't have the Father because they reject the Son.

same with jews or anyone who rejects Christ.
Linda70 is right on and you don't like it, nor her for that matter. By the way sweetie, you are not all that foreign to stereotyping others. Have you prayed for Israel and her people or have you dismissed the thought that the Holy Spirit would lead in such a way? Are you going to continue to condemn others who love and pray for the people of Israel despite their unbelief? We know those who belong to God and have passed from death unto life through their love for the brethren. Where is your love for the brethren on this site or are you a respecter of persons and only honor those who honor you and what you believe? That is a fraudulent love that has all kinds of dissimulation in it. Are you always in the habit of speaking evil of those who have deceitful hearts or are you prone to mercy knowing that mercy rejoices against carnal judgment?
 

zone

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Zone Christ and his truth is love all peoples as he did.
then why all the anti-muslim anti-everybody BUT "Israel", as if they have some inside track with the Lord....NUKE everybody that whines about Israel's aggression and brutality and the Talmud's hatred; racism; superstition; pagan idolatry & witchcraft; perversion; blasphemy against God & Christ.

WHY CALL THIS HOLY?
why call the people who love and memorize this trash HOLY?

they're not....any more than the local atheistic gangster.

if you think unbelieving anybody is in covenant with God, you don't know the basic meta-narrative of the bible.

if you think people who LOVE the Talmud...you better find out what it says about the prophets; Christians; gentiles AND JESUS CHRIST.

Jesus said IF YOU LOVE HIM you will keep His words.
that begins with knowing what He said.
 
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zone

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Have you prayed for Israel and her people
yes. that He would have mercy and save some from dying in their sins.
and that they would be spared the false gospel brought to them by sects claiming to know the King of Israel.
 

zone

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in every thread that has Israel as its topic, there are
some here that are mandated to derail the thread with posts that are filled
with hatred and malice toward anything that is contrary to their belief on
the subject of Israel.
nonsense.
hatred for the false gospel concerning Israel (jewry today).

and distain for the the beliefs perpetrated that are contrary to what the bible says concerning those who are God's people.

like it or not; The Lord made this PLAIN:

1 John 2:23
No one who denies the Son has the Father; whoever acknowledges the Son has the Father also.

some ppl say this doesn't mean Muslims - they say they worship the Father but just don't know yet the Son....and that view is thrashed here.

some ppl says this doesn't mean unbelieving jews - they say they worship the Father but just don't know yet the Son...that view is supported here.

NEITHER has the Father.
NEITHER knows the Father.
NEITHER Honors the Father.