Prophecy warfare

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ResidentAlien

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would that because there's people hijacking this thread who like to call people trolls like you.
It seems some of you have grown cold and bold in insults,

Some of you have gained confidence in how to insult people.
And grow cold.

It's seems you can't let sleeping dogs lay down.

Maybe you all been stuck here to long debating and listening to many gay people insult you all.
Honestly you've all been twisted against each other by atheists.

The language of cursing here is worse than any place I've ever visited.
What would you prefer? How would you like people to respond to you? Would you like them to say: "fundaamental, we love your teaching; we'd like to hear more, please share. We believe you're a prophet sent by God. Make yourself comfortable and enjoy your stay." Is that what you're after?
 

CS1

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all I know friend is I speak subtle warnings all the time. 😊
How about you.
FYI Prophets are not Subtle.

God doesn't make Prophets to be Subtle. But to Proclaim! Speak out! Foretell and Forthtell.

Prophets don't call themselves "Prophets" People who have seen the work of God call them one.

Because prophets know already what God has called them to and don't need a title. They just do the will of God and the work of one.

Jesus sat at a well and told a woman everything she ever did. She perceived HE was a Prophet, and Jesus was and is far more than that. Jesus did not call himself a Prophet to the woman she did. He confirms to her HE is the Christ.

Prophesying doesn't make one a prophet, nor is it only for those who are in the office of one.

Please write this down. It will be very helpful to you.
 

Dino246

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1 kings 18;21-22
21Then Elijah approached all the people and said, “How long will you waver between two opinions? If the LORD is God, follow Him. But if Baal is God, follow him.”
But the people did not answer a word.
22Then Elijah said to the people, “I am the only remaining prophet of the LORD, but Baal has four hundred and fifty prophets.

Look all the prophets of the lord had defected to baal.
Elijah was the only one left.

Ok so if you don't see that some of these prophets had defected to God, can you see theese prophets where of two opinions.

I'm also through talking about what a Jezebel is, you refuse to accept it.
My goodness...

The text shows Elijah asking the people, NOT the prophets, "How long will you waver between two opinions?"

You haven't done your homework by reading the whole chapter. Jezebel killed the prophets of God; she didn't cause them to defect.

1 Kings 18:4 While Jezebel was killing off the Lord’s prophets, Obadiah had taken a hundred prophets and hidden them in two caves, fifty in each, and had supplied them with food and water.)

Read more carefully! Stop injecting your own wacky ideas into the story!

No genuine prophet would treat God's written word so carelessly.
 

wolfwint

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In fairness, the source that fundaamental gives, https://www.missionariesofprayer.or...phecy-and-2-warnings-prophetic-series-part-4/, also talks about the "Jezebel spirit." This is a popular concept in certain segments of Christianity and there's a lot of cross pollination that goes on among them.
Thank you for this correction. Its seems very common among charismatic and pentecostal churches. I am realy surprised that this teaching about a jezebel spirit seems so important without that this is taught in the bible. And they give this spirit, very much attention.
 

wolfwint

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Thank you, but I don't really see the connection to anything fundaamental has said. I think they're both deceived but I fail to see any evidence that fundaamental has been inspired by Vassula Ryden.

It's funny though that after you said this he revealed the actual source. lol It was easy enough to find though; I found it by simply copying some of it and putting it in a search engine.
Clever! I gave in jezebel spirit and this site from Vassula Ryden came first.
 

wolfwint

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God moves differently for each person Mr minty. You should know that.
Well i am sorry that I blame you wrongly about your source. That you did not correct my post gave me the thought that I would be right.

But still this teaching about the Jezebel Spirit gave not the result which you maby expectet.
Its created unpeace and no benefit for the almost all readers.
 

Nehemiah6

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Clever! I gave in jezebel spirit and this site from Vassula Ryden came first.
I checked out Vassula Ryden. This person is to be avoided at all costs. And there is no such thing as a "Jezebel spirit". So this "prophet" should also be avoided at all costs.
 

Fundaamental

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Here you go again Jesus is my prophet,
Your all putting Jesus down not me.
Jesus is the king of Prophecy.
Fyi the people who Elijah was speaking to where recieving prophecy of prophets of baal.
450 of them and growing fast,
Just like in this place.
The 450 prophets of baal where all Jezebels and defections
of two opinions one from the lord one from baal.
I'm prohesying right now Jesus is giving me theese words to say.
Your all defending Jezebels
Christians prophecy against Jezebels all the time,
It's called the ability to discern through the king Jesus.
 

Fundaamental

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I checked out Vassula Ryden. This person is to be avoided at all costs. And there is no such thing as a "Jezebel spirit". So this "prophet" should also be avoided at all costs.
good for you. But your actually avoiding Jesus not me.

And I don't suppose I'll ever get an apology
From you will I seeing as your heart has grown cold.
 

Fundaamental

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Well i am sorry that I blame you wrongly about your source. That you did not correct my post gave me the thought that I would be right.

But still this teaching about the Jezebel Spirit gave not the result which you maby expectet.
Its created unpeace and no benefit for the almost all readers.
look Jezebels are fallen angels, choose to accept it or not.

Makes no difference, fallen angels where at work with the prophets of baal.

Im prohesying against fallen angels that my gift.
 

Fundaamental

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My goodness...

The text shows Elijah asking the people, NOT the prophets, "How long will you waver between two opinions?"

You haven't done your homework by reading the whole chapter. Jezebel killed the prophets of God; she didn't cause them to defect.

1 Kings 18:4 While Jezebel was killing off the Lord’s prophets, Obadiah had taken a hundred prophets and hidden them in two caves, fifty in each, and had supplied them with food and water.)

Read more carefully! Stop injecting your own wacky ideas into the story!

No genuine prophet would treat God's written word so carelessly.
the people Elijah where speaking to where under two opinions from the prophets of baal..
You know fine well what I ment.
The prophets of baal where defections to. Elijah was the only prophets of the lord left from hundreds, where did all them prophets go.
 

Fundaamental

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FYI Prophets are not Subtle.

God doesn't make Prophets to be Subtle. But to Proclaim! Speak out! Foretell and Forthtell.

Prophets don't call themselves "Prophets" People who have seen the work of God call them one.

Because prophets know already what God has called them to and don't need a title. They just do the will of God and the work of one.

Jesus sat at a well and told a woman everything she ever did. She perceived HE was a Prophet, and Jesus was and is far more than that. Jesus did not call himself a Prophet to the woman she did. He confirms to her HE is the Christ.

Prophesying doesn't make one a prophet, nor is it only for those who are in the office of one.

Please write this down. It will be very helpful to you.
you would do well not insult what you don't understand seeing as your a ministry. But where have you learnt most of your ministry skills,
Is it through arguing with atheists,

Or is it through ministering to real Christians like me,
 

Fundaamental

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In two weeks time I'm going to Ireland to reveal a prophecy to two people who will shoot me if the lord doesn't intervene.
The prohecy will be something that will come true in there life's within one week.
All I know is the lord will speak through my lips.
Its going to be broadcast live on YouTube and I'm going to post the live link here.
Watch this space 🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🚀🚀
 
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Locoponydirtman

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look Jezebels are fallen angels, choose to accept it or not.

Makes no difference, fallen angels where at work with the prophets of baal.

Im prohesying against fallen angels that my gift.
Hold on. You are contradicting yourself. When i said, "
Jezabel is not a spirit, she was a real woman and was thrown out of a window and eaten by dogs. She is dead and her spirit is in sheol, hades, hell, how ever you want to frame it. She is not a demon nor fallen angel nor spirit free to roam the earth."
you responded
never framed it like that you just have
 

Fundaamental

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Hold on. You are contradicting yourself. When i said, "
Jezabel is not a spirit, she was a real woman and was thrown out of a window and eaten by dogs. She is dead and her spirit is in sheol, hades, hell, how ever you want to frame it. She is not a demon nor fallen angel nor spirit free to roam the earth."
you responded
look the remnants of fallen angels are still here in there billions.
The remnants of fallen angels are disembodied spirits of fallen angels, left here to roam until that glorious day.
Where I'm from Jezebels are know as unclean spirits, thats all. Christians are able to prophecies against them.
You don't have to be super intelligent to realise Jezebell is a heavenly name,
The folk law belief in the UK is the Jezebel's where once a group of angels in heaven.
That's what I've grown up with.

Where your from you have different names for unclean spirits like devils, or demons, or what ever.

You should let sleeping dogs lydown now😊
 

Angela53510

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there's a whole lot of criticising here again.

It's seems quite a few people would rather become online abusers than discuss the word of God.

Or maybe all the online abusers here have spent far to long arguing about the word of God here.
I suppose you become what you associate with.

Or maybe there's a lot of people with hidden emotional scars here,
It's sad that these people become online argumentative abusers in a place where the most important gifts of the holy spirit are being discussed,
In the UK there no longer called trolls just online abusers.

Is this what I should have to contend with everytime I start a discussion here.

I'm not a machine and I have feelings.




There is roughly 1800 prophecies in the whole Bible, comprising of over 8000 verses,
There is just over 31000 verses in whole 66 books of the bible😊.

Prophecy accounts for almost 1 third of the whole Bible.

So far I don't see any of this being discussed in a civil manner.

What is the point in me sharing 😟
All those verses of prophecy, yet you fail to quote them, preferring your own words instead! There is no point in sharing, unless your starting, middle and end points are Scripture.

You are just someone with an over inflated ego, lecturing about something that you have made up! It's not uncivil to point out this is the BIBLE Discussion Forum. We try and discuss the Bible, not some half literate's attempts to teach something he made up!

When you redo your OP to reflect where each idea comes from in the Bible, by quoting actual verses with their addresses, you might find people more responsive to what you are saying. Although more likely, when you actually do the exegetical work, you will find your ideas & opinions in this topic have no basis in Scripture, and you will apologize and close this post!
 
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Locoponydirtman

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look the remnants of fallen angels are still here in there billions.
The remnants of fallen angels are disembodied spirits of fallen angels, left here to roam until that glorious day.
Where I'm from Jezebels are know as unclean spirits, thats all. Christians are able to prophecies against them.
You don't have to be super intelligent to realise Jezebell is a heavenly name,
The folk law belief in the UK is the Jezebel's where once a group of angels in heaven.
That's what I've grown up with.

Where your from you have different names for unclean spirits like devils, or demons, or what ever.

You should let sleeping dogs lydown now😊
Thats not addressing the contradiction. You said you dont frame it that way and then did.

Let sleeping dogs lydown is a threat where i come from.
 

Angela53510

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Spiritual prochecies from the realms of wickedness.
Wait does anyone want to see that a Christian can be subject to these spiritual prochecies from unclean spirits.
Further does anyone want to read them and then say Christians don't need the the spirit of prophecy or don't have it.
Does anyone even want to suggest we need the spirit of prophecy to decipher all these.
Jeremiah 5:31
The prophets prophesy falsely,
And the priests rule on their own authority;
And My people love it so!
But what will you do at the end of it?

Jeremiah 14:14
Then the Lord said to me, “The prophets are prophesying falsehood in My name. I have neither sent them nor commanded them nor spoken to them; they are prophesying to you a false vision, divination, futility and the deception of their own minds.

Jeremiah 27:10
For they prophesy a lie to you in order to remove you far from your land; and I will drive you out and you will perish.

Jeremiah 27:14
So do not listen to the words of the prophets who speak to you, saying, ‘You will not serve the king of Babylon,’ for they prophesy a lie to you;
Jeremiah 27:16
Then I spoke to the priests and to all this people, saying, “Thus says the Lord: Do not listen to the words of your prophets who prophesy to you, saying, ‘Behold, the vessels of the Lord’s house will now shortly be brought again from Babylon’; for they are prophesying a lie to you.

Isaiah 9:15
The head is the elder and honorable man,
And the prophet who teaches falsehood is the tail.

Jeremiah 29:8
For thus says the Lord of hosts, the God of Israel, ‘Do not let your prophets who are in your midst and your diviners deceive you, and do not listen to the dreams which they dream.

Jeremiah 27:15
for I have not sent them,” declares the Lord, “but they prophesy falsely in My name, in order that I may drive you out and that you may perish, you and the prophets who prophesy to you.”

Jeremiah 29:9
For they prophesy falsely to you in My name; I have not sent them,’ declares the Lord.

Jeremiah 29:23
because they have acted foolishly in Israel, and have committed adultery with their neighbors’ wives and have spoken words in My name falsely, which I did not command them; and I am He who knows and am a witness,” declares the Lord.’”

Jeremiah 37:19
Where then are your prophets who prophesied to you, saying, ‘The king of Babylon will not come against you or against this land’?

Nehemiah 6:7
You have also appointed prophets to proclaim in Jerusalem concerning you, ‘A king is in Judah!’ And now it will be reported to the king according to these reports. So come now, let us take counsel together.”

Hosea 4:5
So you will stumble by day,
And the prophet also will stumble with you by night;
And I will destroy your mother.

Micah 3:11
Her leaders pronounce judgment for a bribe,
Her priests instruct for a price
And her prophets divine for money.
Yet they lean on the Lord saying,
“Is not the Lord in our midst?
Calamity will not come upon us.”

Jeremiah 23:11
“For both prophet and priest are polluted;
Even in My house I have found their wickedness,” declares the Lord.

Jeremiah 6:13
For from the least of them even to the greatest of them,
Everyone is greedy for gain,
And from the prophet even to the priest
Everyone deals falsely.

Jeremiah 8:10
“Therefore I will give their wives to others,
Their fields to new owners;
Because from the least even to the greatest
Everyone is greedy for gain;
From the prophet even to the priest
Everyone practices deceit.

Jeremiah 23:15
Therefore thus says the Lord of hosts concerning the prophets,
‘Behold, I am going to feed them wormwood
And make them drink poisonous water,
For from the prophets of Jerusalem
Pollution has gone forth into all the land.’”

Lamentations 4:13
Because of the sins of her prophets
And the iniquities of her priests,
Who have shed in her midst
The blood of the righteous;

Isaiah 28:7
And these also reel with wine and stagger from strong drink:
The priest and the prophet reel with strong drink,
They are confused by wine, they stagger from strong drink;
They reel while having visions,
They totter when rendering judgment.

Jeremiah 13:13
then say to them, ‘Thus says the Lord, “Behold I am about to fill all the inhabitants of this land—the kings that sit for David on his throne, the priests, the prophets and all the inhabitants of Jerusalem—with drunkenness
Finally, a page full of Scriptures, all probably found with a key word search of a concordance.

If you are going to use a verse/passage, explain it, please. You have one short paragraph, then you throw out a bunch of verses from all over the Bible.

Sorry, but you cannot possibly be a prophet. You don't know the Bible well, you use the Bible to back up your ideas (eisegesis) rather than taking OUT of Scripture what it says (exegesis)! Your writing skills are poor. Your posts arrogant.

Go and read the Bible cover to cover for a few years. If you read 3 chapters of the OT a day, plus one of the NT, you will finish the Bible in a year. Don't do key word searches. Read the Bible in context, from cover to cover. You will find it reveals Jesus, not your gifts! Look for Jesus in the Bible, and you will be in track! Maybe take a course in hermeneutics, or Bible interpretation, to find out where you have gone astray! I know God will bless you in your endeavour to know both the Bible and Jesus Christ better!
 

Dino246

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Here you go again Jesus is my prophet,
Your all putting Jesus down not me.
Jesus is the king of Prophecy.
Fyi the people who Elijah was speaking to where recieving prophecy of prophets of baal.
450 of them and growing fast,
Just like in this place.
The 450 prophets of baal where all Jezebels and defections
of two opinions one from the lord one from baal.
I'm prohesying right now Jesus is giving me theese words to say.
Your all defending Jezebels
Christians prophecy against Jezebels all the time,
It's called the ability to discern through the king Jesus.
You may claim Jesus is your prophet, but you are stubborn, unteachable, and regarding the false prophets of Jezebel, wrong.