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I believe all the gifts are present and thriving today. And I believe that by asking in Faith, you can have as many of these gifts, according to His will, you are willing to endure. I say endure because the Lord say, where much is given, much is expected. God is awesome and it's amazing and very humbling to see these gifts at work.
 
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I believe all the gifts are present and thriving today. And I believe that by asking in Faith, you can have as many of these gifts, according to His will, you are willing to endure. I say endure because the Lord say, where much is given, much is expected. God is awesome and it's amazing and very humbling to see these gifts at work.
Do you have copies of these prophecies?

Shouldn't they be made available to the churches so we can add them to our bibles?

Is there something important that we should be aware of that isn't in the Bible?
 
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Jesus The CHRIST/Yeshua MESSIAH. The Last Prophet.

The Chief Apostle.

The Father's First Begotten SON/SUN. "for ALL things come from The Father through The Son/Sun" (physically & spiritually.)

The LORD'S, Lord. (representative) The Earth itself cannot contain the POWER of ALMIGHTY GOD, lest there be preparations made.

The Anointed ONE of YAHAVEH

The Son/Sun in whom YAH IS well pleased.

OUR! Lord of Lord's, King of King's and each and everyone's personal Saviour's precious name, Melchezidek, THE Angel/Messenger of The LORD. The Prince of Peace and The King of the Justified Kill's;

Seated in his proper place at this time, at the right hand of El'Shadua, Get Over Death/Satan ALMIGHTY!

This isn't just thoughts in people's heads, CHRIST has informed The Father's Chosen all along, as to what's up next, face to face with full understanding, no guessing.

All that is left in this generation are witness's; Witness's to the spoken,(Angel's to the Chosen) written,(Moses & The Prophet's) and Living Word, (Christ and the lives of his Apostle's)

2 Chosen left in The Perfect Plan of YAHAVEH, The 2 Great witness's, Obey them, at that time, and one cannot go wrong.

Each and EVERYONE'S Personal CHOICE (totally free will)​
 
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I was a near-eastern linguistics major in Theology school, so you'll understand that weird mutterings of poorly transliteration Hebrew words don't really do much for me.

The bold and underline functions of the built in forum word processor don't really do much for me either as I also have these functions.

I'm going to need something a bit more substantial. Get Over Death spelling out GOD is a clever acronym, but I've already seen JOY (Jesus First, Others Second and Yourself Last) from a children's song written by a non-prophet, so I'm at an end pass on whether this is prophecy.
 
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phoebe

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God gives us spiritual gifts in order to build up, serve and strength fellow Christians--the Church. In eternity, we will be made perfect and complete and will be in the very presence of God. We will no longer need spiritual gifts, so they will come to an end.
 
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God gives us spiritual gifts in order to build up, serve and strength fellow Christians--the Church. In eternity, we will be made perfect and complete and will be in the very presence of God. We will no longer need spiritual gifts, so they will come to an end.
Well, then I would say that your interpretation of I Cor. 13 is exactly and precisely wrong and out of context.

Not that being wrong and out of context is not common; it is common. But common isn't what we're after. We're after truth.

You might want to give it another read or two.
 
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I've just received a Prophecy, Word of Knowledge and a Tongue that I need to post on this thread. Please make careful note. Someone will have to interpret it.


耶和华的话临到我说:“人子啊!你要说预言攻击那些在以色列中说预言的先知,对那些随着自己心意说预言的人说:‘你们要听耶和华的话。’” 主耶和华这样说:“愚顽的先知有祸了,他们只是随从自己的灵说预言,却没有看见过什么异象。 以色列啊!你的先知好像废墟中的狐狸。 他们没有上去堵塞破口,也没有为以色列家重修墙垣,使它在耶和华的日子,在战争中可以站立得住。 他们所见的是虚假的异象,是骗人的占卜;他们说:‘这是耶和华的宣告。’其实耶和华并没有差遣他们,他们却希望自己的话能够应验。 你们不是见了虚假的异象,不是说了骗人的占卜吗?你们还说:‘这是耶和华的宣告。’其实我并没有说过。” 因此,主耶和华这样说:“因为你们所说的是虚假,所见的是欺诈,因此我就攻击你们。这是主耶和华的宣告。 我的手必攻击那些看见虚假异象、以占卜骗人的先知,他们必不得列在我子民的会中,不得被记录在以色列家的名册上,也不得进入以色列地;你们就知道我是主耶和华。 因为他们迷惑了我的子民,说:‘平安了。’其实没有平安。有人筑起薄墙的时候,他们就用灰泥粉刷那墙。 所以你要对那些用灰泥粉刷那墙的人说:‘那墙要倒塌,必有暴雨漫过。大冰雹啊!你们要降下,狂风也必暴刮。’ 那墙倒塌以后,人岂不会问你们:‘你们所粉刷的在哪里呢?’” 因此,主耶和华这样说:“我要在我的烈怒中使狂风暴刮;在我的忿怒中有暴雨漫过;在烈怒中有大冰雹降下毁灭这墙。 我要拆毁你们用灰泥粉刷的墙。使它倾倒在地,以致根基露出来;墙必倒塌,你们必在其中灭亡;你们就知道我是耶和华。 我必这样向墙,和向那些用灰泥粉刷这墙的人发尽我的烈怒。我要对他们说:‘墙没有了!粉刷那墙的人也没有了!’ 粉刷那墙的人,就是以色列的众先知;他们指着耶路撒冷说预言,在没有平安的时候,为这城见平安的异象。这是主耶和华的宣告。
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“人子啊!你要面向民中那些随着自己心意说预言的女子,说预言攻击她们。你要说: ‘主耶和华这样说:这些女子有祸了,她们替众人的手腕缝制符咒的带子,又替众人制造不同长度的头巾,为要猎取人的性命。难道你们猎取我子民的性命,就能保全自己的性命吗? 你们为了几把大麦,为了几块饼,就在我的子民中间亵渎我;你们向我那些愿听谎言的子民说谎,不该死的人,你们杀死了;不该活的人,你们却保全他们的性命。 “‘因此,主耶和华这样说:我要与你们符咒的带子作对。你们用它们来猎取人的性命,好像猎取飞鸟一样。我必把它们从你们的膀臂上扯下来,释放那些被你们像飞鸟一样猎取的性命。 我必扯下你们的头巾,救我的子民脱离你们的手,使他们不再被你们的手猎取;你们就知道我是耶和华。 我没有使义人灰心,你们却用谎言使他们灰心,又坚固恶人的手,使他们不转离恶道而得拯救。 因此,你们不得再见虚假的异象,也不得再行占卜的事;我要救我的子民脱离你们的手。你们就知道我是耶和华。’”
 
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I was a near-eastern linguistics major in Theology school, so you'll understand that weird mutterings of poorly transliteration Hebrew words don't really do much for me.

The bold and underline functions of the built in forum word processor don't really do much for me either as I also have these functions.

I'm going to need something a bit more substantial. Get Over Death spelling out GOD is a clever acronym, but I've already seen JOY (Jesus First, Others Second and Yourself Last) from a children's song written by a non-prophet, so I'm at an end pass on whether this is prophecy.
Mabey too much theology and not enough of The Word.

It is pretty obvious, to me anyways, what Christ's Mission was on the cross.

Unlike yourself, I obviously assume that there are also un-educated people on here, so I highlight in a certain fashion to stress the importance of certain words.

No More Prophet's was the point I was attempting to make.

This son's and daughter's prophesying is for a specific point in Our Father's Plan; doing it before that time, is dis-obeying Our Father.

Also it won't be us doing the prophesying anyways; it will be The Holy Spirit doing it through us, the last great miracle before the return of Christ/Messiah.

If you want something more, go find it.
 

Yahshua

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See...I'm in the middle on this. I think a bunch of you all make great points for both sides of the issue:

Essentially, one side says "there's nothing more to prophesy about"...while the other side is essentially arguing that until Christ returns there's more to happen and thus more to prophesy about. So I think the truth lies somewhere in the middle.

I'm reminded of the passage at the end of Revelation 10...

Revelation 10:10-11
And I took the little book out of the angel's hand, and ate it up; and it was in my mouth sweet as honey: and as soon as I had eaten it, my belly was bitter. And he said unto me, Thou must prophesy again before many peoples, and nations, and tongues, and kings.
...this scene is in the last prophetic book just before mentioning of the "measuring of the temple" and the two witnesses with their power. So to me this is saying "what was prophesied before (in times past) must be prophesied again for the final generation".

Now believers either have to assume that this book is all finished (those who believe prophesying has ended), or still being fulfilled (prophesying is still alive & well).

I believe prophecy is still supposed to happen, but I ALSO believe there's nothing new to say...kind of like this passage:

Ecclesiastes 1:9
What has been will be again, what has been done will be done again;there is nothing new under the sun.
I think this is one of the BIGGEST keys to prophecy.
 
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Mabey too much theology and not enough of The Word.

It is pretty obvious, to me anyways, what Christ's Mission was on the cross.

Unlike yourself, I obviously assume that there are also un-educated people on here, so I highlight in a certain fashion to stress the importance of certain words.

No More Prophet's was the point I was attempting to make.

This son's and daughter's prophesying is for a specific point in Our Father's Plan; doing it before that time, is dis-obeying Our Father.

Also it won't be us doing the prophesying anyways; it will be The Holy Spirit doing it through us, the last great miracle before the return of Christ/Messiah.

If you want something more, go find it.
I'm receiving a WOK (Word of Knowledge) right now that I need give to you in a WOP (Word of Prophecy) through a TOM (Tongue of Men):

1Viešpats kalbėjo man: 2“Žmogaus sūnau, pranašauk prieš Izraelio pranašus, kurie pranašauja tai, kas yra jų pačių širdyse: ‘Pasiklausykite Viešpaties žodžių! 3Taip sako Viešpats: ‘Vargas kvailiems pranašams, sekantiems savo pačių dvasia ir nieko nemačiusiems. 4Izraeli, tavo pranašai yra lyg lapės griuvėsiuose. 5Jūs nestojote į Izraelio namų spragas ir nestatėte sienų aplinkui juos, kad atsilaikytų kovoje Viešpaties dieną. 6Jie kalbėjo apgaulę ir pranašavo melą. Jie sakė: ‘Taip sako Viešpats’, kai Viešpats nebuvo jų siuntęs, ir suteikė viltį, kad jų žodžiai išsipildys. 7Ar jūs ne apgaulę kalbėjote ir ne melą pranašavote, sakydami: ‘Taip sako Viešpats’, kai Aš nekalbėjau.

8Kadangi jūs kalbėjote apgaulę ir pranašavote melą, Aš esu prieš jus. 9Mano ranka bus prieš pranašus, reginčius apgaulę ir pranašaujančius melą. Jie nepriklausys mano tautai, nebus įrašyti į Izraelio namų sąrašą ir nesugrįš į Izraelio kraštą. Tada jūs žinosite, kad Aš esu Viešpats. 10Jie suvedžiojo mano tautą, sakydami: ‘Taika’, kai tuo tarpu nebuvo taikos. Kai jie stato sieną iš akmenų, kiti aptepa ją kalkėmis. 11Sakyk tiems, kurie tepa sieną kalkėmis, kad ji sugrius, užėjus smarkiam lietui, siaučiant audrai. 12Kai ji sugrius, ar neklaus jūsų: ‘Kur tinkas, kuriuo aptepėte sieną?’ 13Aš užsirūstinęs užleisiu griaunančią audrą ir smarkų lietų. Lietus nuplaus tinką, ir mano rūstybės kruša sunaikins ją. 14Aš nugriausiu jūsų kalkėmis apteptą sieną iki pamatų. Ji grius, ir jūs žūsite kartu su ja. Tada žinosite, kad Aš esu Viešpats. 15Aš išliesiu savo rūstybę ant sienos ir jos aptepėjų ir sakysiu: ‘Nebėra sienos ir tų, kurie ją aptepė: 16Izraelio pranašų, Jeruzalei pranašavusių taiką, kai taikos nebuvo,*sako Viešpats Dievas’.


17Tu, žmogaus sūnau, atsisuk į tautos dukteris, kurios pranašauja iš savo širdžių ir pranašauk prieš jas. 18Sakyk joms: ‘Taip sako Viešpats Dievas: ‘Vargas moterims, siuvančioms burtų raiščius rankoms ir šydus visų žmonių galvoms, kad juos sugautų. Ar, gaudydamos mano tautos žmones, pačios tikitės išlikti gyvos? 19Jūs teršiate mane tautoje dėl saujos miežių ir dėl duonos kąsnio, pražudydamos sielas, kurios neturėtų pražūti, ir palikdamos gyvas sielas, kurios neturėtų gyventi, meluodamos mano tautai, kuri klauso jūsų melų’.


20Todėl taip sako Viešpats Dievas: ‘Burtų raiščius, kuriais gaudote sielas, Aš nuplėšiu nuo jūsų rankų ir sugautuosius paleisiu į laisvę. 21Taipgi nuplėšiu šydus ir savo tautą išlaisvinsiu iš jūsų rankų. Tada žinosite, kad Aš esu Viešpats. 22Kadangi savo melais jūs nuliūdinote teisiojo širdį, kurios Aš nenorėjau liūdinti, o nedorėlio rankas sustiprinote, kad neatsiverstų nuo savo pikto kelio ir gyventų, 23todėl jūs neberegėsite apgaulės ir liausitės žyniavę, nes Aš išgelbėsiu savo tautą iš jūsų rankų, ir jūs žinosite, kad Aš esu Viešpats’ ”.

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nathan3

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See...I'm in the middle on this. I think a bunch of you guys make great points for both sides of the issue:

Essentially, one side says "there's nothing more to prophesy about"..

The thing is how this word is used in context here and there. What most people here have in their mind is 1st Corinthians 15:. Following the subject there, the word prophesy , just means to communication Gods message to people, to teach with edification, to exhortation, and comfort. If there is not communication between people, in love naturally, non of these things are accomplished.


The confusion is, this does not mean to get a divine revelation today, because like you said, everything is written. If people do have a dream, its a personal nature to get your life in order. But does not effect the scriptures. We ""teach"" to edifty the church with the prophets; that means God's written word.
 

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Yes prophecy has ended. There are no more prophets that speak Gods word in the sense of Moses. There are prophets in the NT sense of forth telling or preaching the word of God. No new revelation no additions to the cannon already delivered but those who can expound the deeper truths of what has been delivered to the saints.

The prophecy of Joel is not written for the church or for the gentile world but for Israel and will be fulfilled in Israel.

The perfect in 1 Cor 13 is not Christ for He had already come and ascended when that was written but the perfect is the completed cannon of scripture. It is through scripture that we see that which was seen darkly through the OT. We as we are seen through the whole of scripture and all we need is in the complete scripture we have as the bible.

Believe in what you will but there is no virtue in believing is anything that is not scripturally sound.

For the cause of Christ
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The prophecy of Joel is not written for the church or for the gentile world but for Israel and will be fulfilled in Israel.



For the cause of Christ
Roger


I have to Majorly disagree with your above statement ........ Joel is prophecy, for the future ( To Christians ). This is written to those living in the Latter days (( NOW concerning II Thess 2 etc. )). This out pouring of The Holy Spirit will be to those that do know their, God ; in the last days ( Daniel 11:32 ). This event will be The true Gift as was given us in that example on Pentecost day, written of in Acts 2.
( not babble )Where Peter said, this is that, ( an example of that ) which was spoken by Joel the Prophet that would happen in the Last days. ( When Antichrist is on this earth When this will happen/ )

To understand this better Mark 13 Luke 21 Luke 12 and Matthew 24, along with Revelation etc. Have to be understood .
 
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I have to Majorly disagree with your above statement ........ Joel is prophecy, for the future ( To Christians ). This is written to those living in the Latter days. This out pouring of The Holy Spirit will be to those that do know their, God ; in the last days ( Daniel 11:32 ). This event will be The true Gift as was given us in that example on Pentecost day, written of in Acts 2.
( not babble )Where Peter said, this is that, ( an example of that ) which was spoken by Joel the Prophet that would happen in the Last days. ( When Antichrist is on this earth )

To understand this better Mark 13 Luke 21 Luke 12 and Matthew 24, along with Revelation etc. Have to be understood .
There is no way around the simple fact that Joel's prophecy is written to Israel. It also specifically states that your daughters and your young men will dream and prophecy so it is precise in that it will be Israel not church responding to Christ's return to Jerusalem. The celestial signs are clearly at the end when Christ comes to rescue Israel and destroy all those who have endeavored to destroy Israel and Jerusalem.

Peter clearly said that what we saw at Pentecost was not the fulfillment of Joel. Are you certain you understand what you are teaching? The Holy Spirit according to Joel was poured out on all flesh which is what Peter described at Pentecost.

When the times of the Gentiles is over God will return to fulfill all His promises to Israel.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
 

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The Pentecost was the fulfilment of Joel's prophecy.

Act 2:14 But Peter, standing up with the eleven, lifted up his voice, and said unto them, Ye men of Judaea, and all ye that dwell at Jerusalem, be this known unto you, and hearken to my words:
Act 2:15 For these are not drunken, as ye suppose, seeing it is but the third hour of the day.
Act 2:16 But this is that which was spoken by the prophet Joel;
Act 2:17 And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:
Act 2:18 And on my servants and on my handmaidens I will pour out in those days of my Spirit; and they shall prophesy:
Act 2:19 And I will shew wonders in heaven above, and signs in the earth beneath; blood, and fire, and vapour of smoke:
Act 2:20 The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before that great and notable day of the Lord come:
Act 2:21 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved.


 
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It means a gift to teach. to communicate God's message to people, and have them be edified, meaning learn and mature in God;s word. People have a tendency to turn this into a religious traditional thing, and twist this and many things, into something its not .

This simply means to teach effectively God's Words he has given through the prophets etc. To exhortation edification and comfort .
Prophecy of future things is real too. I once was prophesied about my life from a man and woman of God, about the struggle I would go through. But they comforted me to as this was something that was God's will. I was like at the time "wonder what exactly I'm going through?" But then later on I went through a lot with family, friends, relationships, and my job all at once. Hit me like a tidal wave. Amazingly he does a talk show and the message he gave me is recorded and I saved it on my kindle and I listen to it every once in a while and it comforts me through what I could have thought God was angry. Because I am aware of what happened, I praise God instead of blaming Him. And his wife told me to continually go with God through it all, and gave me words of wisdom. Because of that...I cannot explain. There is more coming according to them. Who knows. But they provided scripture as to what they saw and how it connected. Pretty awesome stuff. They are very very humble people. They don't say they are prophets, matter of fact not once have I seen or heard them say they were, they call it ministering (which is pretty much serving) in the prophetic ministry.
 
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I've just received a Prophecy, Word of Knowledge and a Tongue that I need to post on this thread. Please make careful note. Someone will have to interpret it.


耶和华的话临到我说:“人子啊!你要说预言攻击那些在以色列中说预言的先知,对那些随着自己心意说预言的人说:‘你们要听耶和华的话。’” 主耶和华这样说:“愚顽的先知有祸了,他们只是随从自己的灵说预言,却没有看见过什么异象。 以色列啊!你的先知好像废墟中的狐狸。 他们没有上去堵塞破口,也没有为以色列家重修墙垣,使它在耶和华的日子,在战争中可以站立得住。 他们所见的是虚假的异象,是骗人的占卜;他们说:‘这是耶和华的宣告。’其实耶和华并没有差遣他们,他们却希望自己的话能够应验。 你们不是见了虚假的异象,不是说了骗人的占卜吗?你们还说:‘这是耶和华的宣告。’其实我并没有说过。” 因此,主耶和华这样说:“因为你们所说的是虚假,所见的是欺诈,因此我就攻击你们。这是主耶和华的宣告。 我的手必攻击那些看见虚假异象、以占卜骗人的先知,他们必不得列在我子民的会中,不得被记录在以色列家的名册上,也不得进入以色列地;你们就知道我是主耶和华。 因为他们迷惑了我的子民,说:‘平安了。’其实没有平安。有人筑起薄墙的时候,他们就用灰泥粉刷那墙。 所以你要对那些用灰泥粉刷那墙的人说:‘那墙要倒塌,必有暴雨漫过。大冰雹啊!你们要降下,狂风也必暴刮。’ 那墙倒塌以后,人岂不会问你们:‘你们所粉刷的在哪里呢?’” 因此,主耶和华这样说:“我要在我的烈怒中使狂风暴刮;在我的忿怒中有暴雨漫过;在烈怒中有大冰雹降下毁灭这墙。 我要拆毁你们用灰泥粉刷的墙。使它倾倒在地,以致根基露出来;墙必倒塌,你们必在其中灭亡;你们就知道我是耶和华。 我必这样向墙,和向那些用灰泥粉刷这墙的人发尽我的烈怒。我要对他们说:‘墙没有了!粉刷那墙的人也没有了!’ 粉刷那墙的人,就是以色列的众先知;他们指着耶路撒冷说预言,在没有平安的时候,为这城见平安的异象。这是主耶和华的宣告。
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“人子啊!你要面向民中那些随着自己心意说预言的女子,说预言攻击她们。你要说: ‘主耶和华这样说:这些女子有祸了,她们替众人的手腕缝制符咒的带子,又替众人制造不同长度的头巾,为要猎取人的性命。难道你们猎取我子民的性命,就能保全自己的性命吗? 你们为了几把大麦,为了几块饼,就在我的子民中间亵渎我;你们向我那些愿听谎言的子民说谎,不该死的人,你们杀死了;不该活的人,你们却保全他们的性命。 “‘因此,主耶和华这样说:我要与你们符咒的带子作对。你们用它们来猎取人的性命,好像猎取飞鸟一样。我必把它们从你们的膀臂上扯下来,释放那些被你们像飞鸟一样猎取的性命。 我必扯下你们的头巾,救我的子民脱离你们的手,使他们不再被你们的手猎取;你们就知道我是耶和华。 我没有使义人灰心,你们却用谎言使他们灰心,又坚固恶人的手,使他们不转离恶道而得拯救。 因此,你们不得再见虚假的异象,也不得再行占卜的事;我要救我的子民脱离你们的手。你们就知道我是耶和华。’”
Oh if I may!

Translated it simply says.... What about the two WITNESSES that will PROHECY in the CITY CALLED SPIRITUALLY: SODOM! Will these two have the GIFT OF PROHECY, and what will they PROHECY? What will they SAY!
 
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If you mean by prophecy speaking forth God's Word...hopefully we do that.
If you mean revealing NEW truth...that's already been done.
​In acts certain prophets spoke of a famine coming to Jerusalem Was this previously revealed in scripture?? Prophesy does not just deal with doctrine.Rev says the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophesy and I hope we have the testimony of our Lord.Even if the scripture has revealed all ,which I dont know if it has, surly it has not become living to us in its fullness Prophesy is a living word,alive, the spirit of Christ. I am as aware as you are of the false prophets and teachers in the world. For they went out from us that they might be seen that they were not of us. This is the spirit of anti-christ which is in the world. Gods blessing to those in Christ Jesus
 
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The early Christians also had the gift of prophecy while the full outpouring of the Spirit was yet upon them until it passed away toward the end of the first century in fulfillment of 1 Cor. 13, which states that the gift of propecy would be done away with and that Faith, Hope and Love would be all that would abide.
I'm pretty sure you mis-read it. While it says "where there are propecies, they will cease" it goes on in the same verse to say "where there is knowledge, it will pass away". Is knowledge gone? Of course not. Paul is talking about the superiority of love, how in a person it doesn't come and go like skills such as prophecy. He speaks of the gift of prophecy in same chapter in verse 2. Do you think that God wasted anyone's time with descriptions about gifts that no longer exist when we read about them?

You didn't get this belief from the bible, because the bible didn't put an expiration date on them -- definitely not a specific one, and in my interpretation not a general one, either. You got it from observation of the lack of this gift today, and you wanted to rationalize how the bible could say that people have it when they clearly don't.
 
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I've just received a Prophecy, Word of Knowledge and a Tongue that I need to post on this thread. Please make careful note. Someone will have to interpret it.


耶和华的话临到我说:“人子啊!你要说预言攻击那些在以色列中说预言的先知
This kind of trick may have worked in the days before Google Translate, but not today. It's simply Ezekial chapters 33-36, and you scrolled down to the "Chinese Union Version" at biblegateway.com and copied and pasted it. What kind of simpletons do you take us for?