As an aside....
For those of you who think I am being a little rough on Roger (undergrace?), please understand that we go waaay back. I focus on him for 3 reasons -
1. I always find it amusing when those who are in such obvious error arrogantly cling to their error in the face of correction; so for this I poke a little fun at him
2. I take exception when someone in error works so hard to promote and spread their error to others, especially newborns seeking the truth
3. I take umbrage when someone is so far in error as to speak and spread blasphemes (and I'm not one to proclaim blasphemes lightly) and will get in their face in the attempt to show them their wrongs and turn them from disaster.
But, alas, one must be open to correction and Roger CLEARLY is not. Maybe it's time to put him on ignore again.
Anyway, I apologize to those who think I'm being unnecessarily mean. There is a reason I deal with him so strongly, and it goes far beyond the pages of this one thread.
Ok, back to your regularly scheduled argument - I mean debate