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I don't think of tongues as a sign for salvation. We have the witness of the Holy Spirit with our spirit that we are children of God. That's enough for me.
There may be some fringe people that say that sort of thing but it's not a common belief amongst people that I know of. I would be against such a teaching.
Pentecost by no means completely defines the gift of tongues. You are limiting a gift of the Spirit to one event and not allowing for it to go beyond those recorded events. VVe have one use of tongues being shown at Pentecost but not all of its uses which the apostle Paul later divulges. So, the apostle Paul describes tongues in such a way that doesn't align with what happened at Pentecost and therefore, it either means the apostle Paul is lying, the recorded events of Pentecost are falsified, or the gift of tongues is varied in its use and serves many purposes. I go with the third option.
A new low for you. Times must be tough for you right now.
Why do you fight against the word of God? The Holy Spirit does not minister outside of the word of God. If Pentecostals and charismatics are going to claim the tongues they speak as biblical they must align with what the bible teaches.
Of course you are going to question my salvation because you have nothing with which to discredit my argument from the scriptures. I have the witness of the Holy Spirit and He is not attesting to what you are teaching. You sink to making false arguments and attempting to injure my reputation with these allegations.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
Why do you fight against the word of God? The Holy Spirit does not minister outside of the word of God. If Pentecostals and charismatics are going to claim the tongues they speak as biblical they must align with what the bible teaches.
Of course you are going to question my salvation because you have nothing with which to discredit my argument from the scriptures. I have the witness of the Holy Spirit and He is not attesting to what you are teaching. You sink to making false arguments and attempting to injure my reputation with these allegations.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
You can think what you wish Roger, but it is you who is ignoring the entire chapter of 1 Co 14. And when I reconcile them for you, you instead choose your own interpretation. You are correct that tongues was a sign for Israel and that's a cool revelation, but 1 Co 14 also says that tongues speaks only to God which blows your teaching out of the water.
Acts 2, they were NOT teaching the people or speaking to them. It's in there clearly, they were praising GOD... God gave the Jews the interpretation of their tongues so they could hear them in their own languages. He let them listen in.
It makes sense on so many levels. Notice for instance Acts 2 stresses that EVERY man heard it in his own language. Think about it Roger, you have 100+ people all speaking different languages and acting "drunk". And you think every man is able to understand them isn't a miracle? Have you ever been with loud drunk people? Go get 5 people who speak in different languages all taking at one time and YOU try to make out what they are saying. Now multiply that by 20.
And I think it's time that I set some boundaries with you. I do not appreciate you telling me that I am ignoring Scripture for my own interpretation when it is you who are not bringing up 1 Co 14. I do not ignore Scripture, I magnify it, I reconcile it. I do not leave out 1 Co 14 and it's clear instructions. I pray about things with Holy Spirit until He gives me clarity. I honor you and I thank you for your input, but leave your comments out about me out of this. If you want to discuss Scripture I am fine, but you have made these snide comments to me several times. And I'm done with them.
I'm not mad or angry at you, but I just want to be clear from this point on.
And until you can reconcile ALL of 1 Co 14 with your interpretation. And use more than 1 Scripture to show that the gifts are ceased. I suggest you stop telling people they are ignoring Scriptures.
Acts 2, they were NOT teaching the people or speaking to them. It's in there clearly, they were praising GOD... God gave the Jews the interpretation of their tongues so they could hear them in their own languages. He let them listen in.
It makes sense on so many levels. Notice for instance Acts 2 stresses that EVERY man heard it in his own language. Think about it Roger, you have 100+ people all speaking different languages and acting "drunk". And you think every man is able to understand them isn't a miracle? Have you ever been with loud drunk people? Go get 5 people who speak in different languages all taking at one time and YOU try to make out what they are saying. Now multiply that by 20.
And I think it's time that I set some boundaries with you. I do not appreciate you telling me that I am ignoring Scripture for my own interpretation when it is you who are not bringing up 1 Co 14. I do not ignore Scripture, I magnify it, I reconcile it. I do not leave out 1 Co 14 and it's clear instructions. I pray about things with Holy Spirit until He gives me clarity. I honor you and I thank you for your input, but leave your comments out about me out of this. If you want to discuss Scripture I am fine, but you have made these snide comments to me several times. And I'm done with them.
I'm not mad or angry at you, but I just want to be clear from this point on.
And until you can reconcile ALL of 1 Co 14 with your interpretation. And use more than 1 Scripture to show that the gifts are ceased. I suggest you stop telling people they are ignoring Scriptures.
U
They didn't need interpreters in Acts 2 because one of the aspect of speaking in tongues is that we speak the mighty deeds of God ( Acts 2:11 ) - the original 120 were not "giving a message" out to the listeners - they were just filled with the Holy Spirit and speaking out of their spirits.
Another aspect is that we give thanks and bless Him as can be seen in 1 Cor 14:16-17 when we speak in tongues.
Roger I realize that this whole conversation with you on tongues is completely useless as you don't believe that tongues are for today. I have to say that anyone that says that to me is like an atheist coming up to me and telling me that Jesus is not real. I know both are as real as the earth is real so in reality this conversing is a complete waste of time so we should just let it all go. We are all still brothers here if we are all in Christ.
This post was directed towards Roger as he has denied tongues are real and from the Holy Spirit for 9 months that I have seen and actually thinks they are from the devil so that is why I said that to Roger.
If a person is a believer I could not ascribe it to the devil, as I have thought about that in the past, having said that for an unbeliever I cannot make such a blanket statement.
There are documented cases of possessed people speaking in strange ways but then I just cannot believe they are inhabited by the Holy Spirit at the same time as a devil, unless there is something I am missing.
Roger why do you believe this.....I am a very curious person, I like to know everything from every angle, but sometimes I do get dizzy...LOL
Show me in an event in the bible where tongues were spoken and interpreted. Every time they are recorded in Acts it was to evidence the presence of the Holy Spirit. When spoken they were recognized by those who heard them. Same as what happened at Pentecost.
In Corinth we have no record of tongues being spoken or interpreted. We have nothing to suggest that tongues were anything but human languages which could be interpreted by other humans.
You guys have cooked up this grandiose theory of tongues apart from scripture.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
In Corinth we have no record of tongues being spoken or interpreted. We have nothing to suggest that tongues were anything but human languages which could be interpreted by other humans.
You guys have cooked up this grandiose theory of tongues apart from scripture.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
Your understanding of 1 Cor 14 is a little childish. Why would God want us to speak to Him in a manner that we cannot comprehend? Doesn't this seem odd to you? What kind of relationship do you have with God?
The God I know wants me to come to Him and talk with Him. My God desires fellowship with me and treats me as His dear child. He understands when I speak and He does not speak to me in mystical terms. Reverence, worship and honor I understand but unknown gibberish is just silly.
I will not pit one section of scripture against another and God did not put contradictions in His word. Corinth was not being praised but chastised for their conduct.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
The God I know wants me to come to Him and talk with Him. My God desires fellowship with me and treats me as His dear child. He understands when I speak and He does not speak to me in mystical terms. Reverence, worship and honor I understand but unknown gibberish is just silly.
I will not pit one section of scripture against another and God did not put contradictions in His word. Corinth was not being praised but chastised for their conduct.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
They didn't need interpreters in Acts 2 because one of the aspect of speaking in tongues is that we speak the mighty deeds of God ( Acts 2:11 ) - the original 120 were not "giving a message" out to the listeners - they were just filled with the Holy Spirit and speaking out of their spirits.
Another aspect is that we give thanks and bless Him as can be seen in 1 Cor 14:16-17 when we speak in tongues.
Roger I realize that this whole conversation with you on tongues is completely useless as you don't believe that tongues are for today. I have to say that anyone that says that to me is like an atheist coming up to me and telling me that Jesus is not real. I know both are as real as the earth is real so in reality this conversing is a complete waste of time so we should just let it all go. We are all still brothers here if we are all in Christ.
This post was directed towards Roger as he has denied tongues are real and from the Holy Spirit for 9 months that I have seen and actually thinks they are from the devil so that is why I said that to Roger.
How can anyone know if what passes for tongues in todays church are from God or not? Do we take the testimony of those who engage in tongues or do we seek the testimony of God through His word?
If what Pentecostals and charismatics are doing is of God you should be able to demonstrate it to me from Gods word. I am a born again believer and I am able to receive Gods word.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
Okay then let's get into Acts 2! I'll show you how it reconciles with 1 Co 14.
Acts 2:2 When the day of Pentecost had arrived, they were all together in one place. [SUP]2 [/SUP]Suddenly a sound like that of a violent rushing wind came from heaven, and it filled the whole house where they were staying. [SUP]3 [/SUP]And tongues, like flames of fire that were divided, appeared to them and rested on each one of them. [SUP]4 [/SUP]Then they were all filled with the Holy Spirit and began to speak in different languages, as the Spirit gave them ability for speech.
Notice they are filled with Holy Spirit and now speaking in different languages (other tongues) as the Spirit gave them speech.
[SUP]5 [/SUP]There were Jews living in Jerusalem, devout men from every nation under heaven. [SUP]6 [/SUP]When this sound occurred, a crowd came together and was confused because each one heard them speaking in his own language. [SUP]
Notice that the crowd came AFTER they were speaking the mighty works of God. It was THIS sound that caused them to come. And then they were confused because EACH ONE (not just a few) heard them speaking in his own language. This is the interpretation of tongues. This is not people speaking in different languages, the miracle was on EACH person being able to hear and discern for themselves what these men were already speaking.
7 [/SUP]And they were astounded and amazed, saying,[SUP][a][/SUP] “Look, aren’t all these who are speaking Galileans? [SUP]8 [/SUP]How is it that each of us can hear in our own native language? [SUP]
Notice once again the stress is on EACH of us. This is part of the miracle.
9 [/SUP]Parthians, Medes, Elamites; those who live in Mesopotamia, in Judea and Cappadocia, Pontus and Asia, [SUP]10 [/SUP]Phrygia and Pamphylia, Egypt and the parts of Libya near Cyrene; visitors from Rome, both Jews and proselytes, [SUP]11 [/SUP]Cretans and Arabs—we hear them speaking the magnificent acts of God in our own languages.” [SUP]
Notice once again the focus is on them ABLE to hear, these men speaking the magnificent acts of God in their languages. The men who are praising God are not speaking TO he people, they are speaking TO God.
And because I like to confirm Scripture with Scripture here's the same pattern:
[/SUP][SUP]44 [/SUP]While Peter was still speaking these words, the Holy Spirit came down on all those who heard the message. [SUP]45 [/SUP]The circumcised believers[SUP][a][/SUP] who had come with Peter were astounded because the gift of the Holy Spirit had been poured out on the Gentiles also. [SUP]46 [/SUP]For they heard them speaking in other languages and declaring the greatness of[SUP][b][/SUP] God.
[SUP]
Notice even in this passage of Scripture, when Holy Spirit came upon them they are speaking and praising God, and those around them HEARD them speaking in other languages. Tongues was not given so they could be preached at in their own language. Tongues was the result of being filled with the Spirit and the Spirit of God is speaking through them about His greatness!
And here's another passage of Scripture to confirm that the Spirit does in fact speak to God...
Galatians 4:6 Because you are his sons, God sent the Spirit of his Son into our hearts, the Spirit who calls out, "Abba, Father."
Notice even in THIS passage the Spirit is calling out to the Father... Also notice that this Scripture focuses on God sending the Spirit of His Son to us...
Now let me show you how this fits with 1 Co 14 (and we won't ignore it)...
[SUP]1 Co 14:2 [/SUP]For one who speaks in a tongue speaks not to men but to God; for no one understands him, but he utters mysteries in the Spirit. [SUP]3 [/SUP]On the other hand, the one who prophesies speaks to people for their upbuilding and encouragement and consolation.
Notice in this Scripture Paul shows us that tongues is speaking to God and prophesy is speaking to people... That's why we know that Acts 2 wasn't about speaking to people, it was about speaking to God, and in Acts 2 the LISTENERS were able to hear what was being spoken in their own language, this is interpretation of tongues...
Now back to Acts 2...
Acts 2:12 [/SUP]They were all astounded and perplexed, saying to one another, “What could this be?” [SUP]13 [/SUP]But some sneered and said, “They’re full of new wine!” << and they were, but not from a carnal view.
Acts 2:15For these people are not drunk, as you suppose, since it is only the third hour of the day.[SUP]b[/SUP] 16But this is what was uttered through the prophet Joel:
17“‘And in the last days it shall be, God declares,
that I will pour out my Spirit on all flesh,
and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy,
and your young men shall see visions,
and your old men shall dream dreams;
18even on my male servants and female servants
in those days I will pour out my Spirit, and they shall prophesy.
Notice that Joel, the Scripture being referenced by Peter does not say I will pour out my Spirit and they shall speak in tongues, no it says prophesy... why does it say prophesy???
Because prophesy not tongues is for the people, the prophesy being released here is the gift of God to understand what God is saying....
Which brings us back to 1 Co 14 again to finally understand this thing in all its context...
1 Co 14:21In the Law it is written, “By people of strange tongues and by the lips of foreigners will I speak to this people, and even then they will not listen to me, says the Lord.” 22Thus tongues are a sign not for believers but for unbelievers, while prophecy is a sign[SUP]c[/SUP] not for unbelievers but for believers...
Notice Paul is saying that tongues is for unbelievers... why? Because they don't understand Him, so it's NOT prophesy.
Prophesy is for believers, because they do understand Him! Tongues is for speaking to God!
That's why the NEXT verse Paul says this:
23If, therefore, the whole church comes together and all speak in tongues, and outsiders or unbelievers enter, will they not say that you are out of your minds?
If tongues was for people to understand God much of this Scripture wouldn't make sense, which is why I'm sure a lot of people ignore it, but since tongues is for speaking to God it makes perfect sense. The unbelievers will think everyone is OUT OF THEIR MINDS because they don't understand them. Obviously not everyone is given the gift of interpretation like in Acts 2. That was special for the Jews that came to celebrate God on the Feast of Weeks (Pentecost) as I outlined extensively in another post.
But PROPHESY:
24But if all prophesy, and an unbeliever or outsider enters, he is convicted by all, he is called to account by all, 25the secrets of his heart are disclosed, and so, falling on his face, he will worship God and declare that God is really among you.
Which is exactly what we see happening in Acts 2.
Acts 2:37Now when they heard this they were cut to the heart, and said to Peter and the rest of the apostles, “Brothers, what shall we do?”
Cut to the heart, secrets of their heart being revealed this is all an effect of prophesy not tongues.
The focus of Acts 2 is on tongues, but turning into prophesy because the men were able to HEAR what was being spoken to them. However, this is not the norm, which is why Paul wrote 1 Co 12, 13, building up the importance of LOVE so he could come to this line here...
1 Co 14:1Pursue love, and earnestly desire the spiritual gifts, especially that you may prophesy.
And just in case he wasn't clear he repeats himself:
1 Co 14:5Now I want you all to speak in tongues, but even more to prophesy.
I don't expect anyone who doesn't have an open mind to understand this, but those who do I trust Holy Spirit will take it from here.
C.
Acts 2:2 When the day of Pentecost had arrived, they were all together in one place. [SUP]2 [/SUP]Suddenly a sound like that of a violent rushing wind came from heaven, and it filled the whole house where they were staying. [SUP]3 [/SUP]And tongues, like flames of fire that were divided, appeared to them and rested on each one of them. [SUP]4 [/SUP]Then they were all filled with the Holy Spirit and began to speak in different languages, as the Spirit gave them ability for speech.
Notice they are filled with Holy Spirit and now speaking in different languages (other tongues) as the Spirit gave them speech.
[SUP]5 [/SUP]There were Jews living in Jerusalem, devout men from every nation under heaven. [SUP]6 [/SUP]When this sound occurred, a crowd came together and was confused because each one heard them speaking in his own language. [SUP]
Notice that the crowd came AFTER they were speaking the mighty works of God. It was THIS sound that caused them to come. And then they were confused because EACH ONE (not just a few) heard them speaking in his own language. This is the interpretation of tongues. This is not people speaking in different languages, the miracle was on EACH person being able to hear and discern for themselves what these men were already speaking.
7 [/SUP]And they were astounded and amazed, saying,[SUP][a][/SUP] “Look, aren’t all these who are speaking Galileans? [SUP]8 [/SUP]How is it that each of us can hear in our own native language? [SUP]
Notice once again the stress is on EACH of us. This is part of the miracle.
9 [/SUP]Parthians, Medes, Elamites; those who live in Mesopotamia, in Judea and Cappadocia, Pontus and Asia, [SUP]10 [/SUP]Phrygia and Pamphylia, Egypt and the parts of Libya near Cyrene; visitors from Rome, both Jews and proselytes, [SUP]11 [/SUP]Cretans and Arabs—we hear them speaking the magnificent acts of God in our own languages.” [SUP]
Notice once again the focus is on them ABLE to hear, these men speaking the magnificent acts of God in their languages. The men who are praising God are not speaking TO he people, they are speaking TO God.
And because I like to confirm Scripture with Scripture here's the same pattern:
[/SUP][SUP]44 [/SUP]While Peter was still speaking these words, the Holy Spirit came down on all those who heard the message. [SUP]45 [/SUP]The circumcised believers[SUP][a][/SUP] who had come with Peter were astounded because the gift of the Holy Spirit had been poured out on the Gentiles also. [SUP]46 [/SUP]For they heard them speaking in other languages and declaring the greatness of[SUP][b][/SUP] God.
[SUP]
Notice even in this passage of Scripture, when Holy Spirit came upon them they are speaking and praising God, and those around them HEARD them speaking in other languages. Tongues was not given so they could be preached at in their own language. Tongues was the result of being filled with the Spirit and the Spirit of God is speaking through them about His greatness!
And here's another passage of Scripture to confirm that the Spirit does in fact speak to God...
Galatians 4:6 Because you are his sons, God sent the Spirit of his Son into our hearts, the Spirit who calls out, "Abba, Father."
Notice even in THIS passage the Spirit is calling out to the Father... Also notice that this Scripture focuses on God sending the Spirit of His Son to us...
Now let me show you how this fits with 1 Co 14 (and we won't ignore it)...
[SUP]1 Co 14:2 [/SUP]For one who speaks in a tongue speaks not to men but to God; for no one understands him, but he utters mysteries in the Spirit. [SUP]3 [/SUP]On the other hand, the one who prophesies speaks to people for their upbuilding and encouragement and consolation.
Notice in this Scripture Paul shows us that tongues is speaking to God and prophesy is speaking to people... That's why we know that Acts 2 wasn't about speaking to people, it was about speaking to God, and in Acts 2 the LISTENERS were able to hear what was being spoken in their own language, this is interpretation of tongues...
Now back to Acts 2...
Acts 2:12 [/SUP]They were all astounded and perplexed, saying to one another, “What could this be?” [SUP]13 [/SUP]But some sneered and said, “They’re full of new wine!” << and they were, but not from a carnal view.
Acts 2:15For these people are not drunk, as you suppose, since it is only the third hour of the day.[SUP]b[/SUP] 16But this is what was uttered through the prophet Joel:
17“‘And in the last days it shall be, God declares,
that I will pour out my Spirit on all flesh,
and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy,
and your young men shall see visions,
and your old men shall dream dreams;
18even on my male servants and female servants
in those days I will pour out my Spirit, and they shall prophesy.
Notice that Joel, the Scripture being referenced by Peter does not say I will pour out my Spirit and they shall speak in tongues, no it says prophesy... why does it say prophesy???
Because prophesy not tongues is for the people, the prophesy being released here is the gift of God to understand what God is saying....
Which brings us back to 1 Co 14 again to finally understand this thing in all its context...
1 Co 14:21In the Law it is written, “By people of strange tongues and by the lips of foreigners will I speak to this people, and even then they will not listen to me, says the Lord.” 22Thus tongues are a sign not for believers but for unbelievers, while prophecy is a sign[SUP]c[/SUP] not for unbelievers but for believers...
Notice Paul is saying that tongues is for unbelievers... why? Because they don't understand Him, so it's NOT prophesy.
Prophesy is for believers, because they do understand Him! Tongues is for speaking to God!
That's why the NEXT verse Paul says this:
23If, therefore, the whole church comes together and all speak in tongues, and outsiders or unbelievers enter, will they not say that you are out of your minds?
If tongues was for people to understand God much of this Scripture wouldn't make sense, which is why I'm sure a lot of people ignore it, but since tongues is for speaking to God it makes perfect sense. The unbelievers will think everyone is OUT OF THEIR MINDS because they don't understand them. Obviously not everyone is given the gift of interpretation like in Acts 2. That was special for the Jews that came to celebrate God on the Feast of Weeks (Pentecost) as I outlined extensively in another post.
But PROPHESY:
24But if all prophesy, and an unbeliever or outsider enters, he is convicted by all, he is called to account by all, 25the secrets of his heart are disclosed, and so, falling on his face, he will worship God and declare that God is really among you.
Which is exactly what we see happening in Acts 2.
Acts 2:37Now when they heard this they were cut to the heart, and said to Peter and the rest of the apostles, “Brothers, what shall we do?”
Cut to the heart, secrets of their heart being revealed this is all an effect of prophesy not tongues.
The focus of Acts 2 is on tongues, but turning into prophesy because the men were able to HEAR what was being spoken to them. However, this is not the norm, which is why Paul wrote 1 Co 12, 13, building up the importance of LOVE so he could come to this line here...
1 Co 14:1Pursue love, and earnestly desire the spiritual gifts, especially that you may prophesy.
And just in case he wasn't clear he repeats himself:
1 Co 14:5Now I want you all to speak in tongues, but even more to prophesy.
I don't expect anyone who doesn't have an open mind to understand this, but those who do I trust Holy Spirit will take it from here.
C.
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Sis, no one can convince us of the truths we have thus learned in the Bible already right? They were truths we came to as we went along. Trust that God will show you as you go along because that is how He works., as we go along with Him. For sure He will show us the things He has for us if we are asking and willing to believe. No one talked me into the hows and whys of tongues. At first, anyone who did it gave me the creeps. For years that was my opinion about the tongues issue.
I didn't understand it.,didn't want to understand it., that is their business if they wanted to do that stuff. I was saved anyway and felt I had no need of it nor did many believers I already knew for years. They survived without it so what was the point? I had many reasons not to seek things that were not a part of my life at the time. But later things happened to me that I never ever would have considered (ever) in my life. If someone told me my life could change the way it had I would have gone to my grave never believing them.
There are things in this life and experiences God has yet to show us about Himself that we won't know until we get there. And then no one can convince us otherwise to the contrary because it is our hard learned earned experiences in our life with Jesus when He took us from one place to another. So when we know., we know it and have become thoroughly convinced in our own mind and heart and life and no one can take it from us.
You are a prime example of someone that is solid on the grace of God for salvation but you are spiritually immature when it comes to the supernatural aspect of the Holy Spirit.
You have been shown multiple times the scriptures but you keep looking at them with your natural mind and thus you cannot see what is happening in the scriptures on this subject.
You have no idea what kinds of languages were spoken in Corinth when they were speaking in tongues and you do not know every language or dialect that was spoken throughout the history of man - let alone what languages angels speak in heaven. 1 Cor 13:1
You or anyone else telling me tongues is not for today is exactly like an atheist trying to tell me with his natural mind that Jesus is just a figment of my imagination.
You have been shown multiple times the scriptures but you keep looking at them with your natural mind and thus you cannot see what is happening in the scriptures on this subject.
You have no idea what kinds of languages were spoken in Corinth when they were speaking in tongues and you do not know every language or dialect that was spoken throughout the history of man - let alone what languages angels speak in heaven. 1 Cor 13:1
You or anyone else telling me tongues is not for today is exactly like an atheist trying to tell me with his natural mind that Jesus is just a figment of my imagination.
On top of all of that, people are grasping at straws saying that the tongue speakers were actually speaking in the languages and understood exactly what they were speaking. As if God gave them a download of each language and they were speaking it fluently. I have a verse that tackles this.
1 Corinthians 14:13 King James Version (KJV)
13 Wherefore let him that speaketh in an unknown tongue pray that he may interpret.
VVhy would you need to interpret a tongue for the edification of another, if you are speaking in their language fluently already? You see, people are committing intellectual suicide to avoid verses that clearly contradict their belief that tongues is simply an utterance of an understood language. Now, while this does take place (recorded in testimonies) this is not the only use of the gift of tongues as seen above. An interpretation is necessary, and therefore it isn't a tongue the tongue speaker has been granted to understand in-depth.
1 Corinthians 14:13 King James Version (KJV)
13 Wherefore let him that speaketh in an unknown tongue pray that he may interpret.
VVhy would you need to interpret a tongue for the edification of another, if you are speaking in their language fluently already? You see, people are committing intellectual suicide to avoid verses that clearly contradict their belief that tongues is simply an utterance of an understood language. Now, while this does take place (recorded in testimonies) this is not the only use of the gift of tongues as seen above. An interpretation is necessary, and therefore it isn't a tongue the tongue speaker has been granted to understand in-depth.
Great point! Experts of tongues who have never experienced it and ignore an entire chapter devoted to it. Yet somehow they know more than us about this topic? It's like someone who's never put in a bathroom remodel telling everyone else how it's supposed to be done because they think they understand the "instructions" better than them.
I believe I shared how I got rocked by the power of God and I was on the floor speaking in tongues and when I came out of it, everyone in my church was sitting down looking at me on the floor in front of the altar. The best way I can describe that encounter was liquid love pouring through me and then I was praying for my entire church, then my city, then my state, and then the world. And then beyond into the universe. It was so beautiful. But after it happened I had to go understand more about tongues and that's when 1 Co 14 became very very interesting to me. Lol.
I believe I shared how I got rocked by the power of God and I was on the floor speaking in tongues and when I came out of it, everyone in my church was sitting down looking at me on the floor in front of the altar. The best way I can describe that encounter was liquid love pouring through me and then I was praying for my entire church, then my city, then my state, and then the world. And then beyond into the universe. It was so beautiful. But after it happened I had to go understand more about tongues and that's when 1 Co 14 became very very interesting to me. Lol.