Prosperity, How much is to much

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Grace777x70

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p_rehbein said:
No............UNLESS one places the receiving of blessings BEFORE God...........is not ANYTHING we value more than, or place BEFORE God an Idol? Hmm............


If one desires anything more than they desire God is that a good thing?
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Amen..it's all a matter of the heart....Jesus is our true treasure!....:)
 
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where your treasure is so will your heart be also. Amen
 
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eternally-gratefull

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eph 1:
[SUP]3 [/SUP]Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ:
[SUP]4 [/SUP]According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:
[SUP]5 [/SUP]Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will,

Those born of God have riches so amazing nothing in the world can compair. We have more than we deserve, anything we have on this earth is just a plus.
 
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I Timothy 5:8
"But if any provide not for his own, and specially for those of his own house, he hath denied the faith, and is worse than an infidel"

I choose to define prosperlty as security.
My first duty is to my Lord and His local church, but that does not mean I am not to provide for the security of my family, both present and future.
I have seen to many Christians become dependent on family and government as they get older when they could have better managed their life and God's providing.
I have choosen to provide for my wife and daughter if I should die today and for all of us if I am no longer able to work today.
God has blessed me with that opportunity and I have done so.
 
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PurerInHeart

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He who loves money will never have money enough, but the poor can't help the poor. So where is the turning point to where you should consider it overflow that needs to be used to help others? No one should have a mansion with how many poor people we have. Yet I've helped people with money to fix their car when I don't even have a working car of my own. (Yes I am that poor).

I think it's ok to own a decent house and a decent car, with enough income to pay your bills and buy your needs. Habitat for Humanity is a charity that recognizes that people should have a decent home to live in. A new double wide trailer is a decent home if you don't live where there are strong tornados. I think people who buy expensive status symbol cars are greedy. Just because you have that much doesn't mean you spend it all on you- God is affording you the opportunity to be generous to others.
 
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John said Inspired by HOLY SPIRIT that above all that I wish you to prosper even as your soul prospers.

We are blessed to be a blessing and a person can't bless others If they are not being blessed.

But seek ye first the kingdom of righteousness and all these will be added.
 
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PurerInHeart said:
He who loves money will never have money enough, but the poor can't help the poor. So where is the turning point to where you should consider it overflow that needs to be used to help others? No one should have a mansion with how many poor people we have. Yet I've helped people with money to fix their car when I don't even have a working car of my own. (Yes I am that poor).

I think it's ok to own a decent house and a decent car, with enough income to pay your bills and buy your needs. Habitat for Humanity is a charity that recognizes that people should have a decent home to live in. A new double wide trailer is a decent home if you don't live where there are strong tornados. I think people who buy expensive status symbol cars are greedy. Just because you have that much doesn't mean you spend it all on you- God is affording you the opportunity to be generous to others.
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II Thes. 3:10 "For even when we were with you, this we commanded you, that if any would not work, neither should he eat"

Please do not be offended by what I am about to post. It is not for me to judge your circumstances. I understand that many are poor and in need through no fault of their own.
I am always ready to help those who are willing to help themselves, but many are in need because of their own doing.
They are lazy, they waste money on tobacco and drink and drugs. They refuse to learn. They refuse to start at min wage and work their way up. They refuse to work nights and week-ins. They make themselves unemployable.
I will help their families, but I have no obligation to help such people.
Men need to man up and accept their responsible to care for their families.
I make no apology for providing a home and a secure future for my wife and daughter.
 
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JustWhoIAm said:
Anyone who think that communism only works in theory and not in reality should look not to earthly government as an example, but to the early church. There was no dictator at the helm, but Jesus Christ held it all together.
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In order for Communism/Socialism to work as in the early Church there needs to be a change of hearts not political leaders.
 
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James 4:2-3 KJVS
[2] Ye lust, and have not: ye kill, and desire to have, and cannot obtain: ye fight and war, yet ye have not, because ye ask not. [3] Ye ask, and receive not, because ye ask amiss, that ye may consume it upon your lusts.
 
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Persuaded said:
II Thes. 3:10 "For even when we were with you, this we commanded you, that if any would not work, neither should he eat"

Please do not be offended by what I am about to post. It is not for me to judge your circumstances. I understand that many are poor and in need through no fault of their own.
I am always ready to help those who are willing to help themselves, but many are in need because of their own doing.
They are lazy, they waste money on tobacco and drink and drugs. They refuse to learn. They refuse to start at min wage and work their way up. They refuse to work nights and week-ins. They make themselves unemployable.
I will help their families, but I have no obligation to help such people.
Men need to man up and accept their responsible to care for their families.
I make no apology for providing a home and a secure future for my wife and daughter.
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Im not offended, the whole reason I'm here is to answer questions and show what the bible says.

The bible says if a MAN REFUSES to work. First of all, I'm not a man. To work by the sweat of his brow is man's punishment not woman's. But indeed we have our own kind of work. Let me tell ya housework IS work. I am disabled, but not lazy. I do not sit on my keister all day. A woman's work is never done. Just because you don't get paid for the work you do, does not mean it is not work. I used to work in a daycare. I cooked and clean, taught and looked after children. I do the exact same things today, I just don't get paid. I do not refuse to work, I just can't work 40 hours on my feet- there's a difference. Asking a disabled person to work is like asking a baby to lift a hundred pound weight over their head- they can't, it's not that they refuse to.

Your questions are always welcome.
 
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PurerInHeart said:
Im not offended, the whole reason I'm here is to answer questions and show what the bible says.

The bible says if a MAN REFUSES to work. First of all, I'm not a man. To work by the sweat of his brow is man's punishment not woman's. But indeed we have our own kind of work. Let me tell ya housework IS work. I am disabled, but not lazy. I do not sit on my keister all day. A woman's work is never done. Just because you don't get paid for the work you do, does not mean it is not work. I used to work in a daycare. I cooked and clean, taught and looked after children. I do the exact same things today, I just don't get paid. I do not refuse to work, I just can't work 40 hours on my feet- there's a difference. Asking a disabled person to work is like asking a baby to lift a hundred pound weight over their head- they can't, it's not that they refuse to.

Your questions are always welcome.
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You are the one I refered to as being in need through no fault of their own.
Those like you are the ones we are commaned to help, and I do with joy.
There are just to many in the US today, mothers and children, in need because men have not accepted their responsible.
Those men are the ones I was adressing.
I will pray for you.
 
trofimus

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What is too much? Too much is:
a) when you have so much that you cant reasonably spend all of it in your life
b) when you live a foolish life full of earthly amusement
c) when you cant give it up easily and leave (this life or your way of life)
 
iwant2serve

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I myself don't think God cares what size your home is or how expensive your car and clothes are. I believe God looks at the heart of every individual and there is where his judgment is. True prosperity to me starts with Matt: 6:33 Seeking the Kingdom of God and his righteousness. When that is my focus prosperity can enter my life. To base prosperity on how many things I have and how expensive they are places me in the worlds meaning of prosperity. Here is my formula for true prosperity.
1. Jesus as my Lord
2. Receiving and displaying God's Love
3. Seeking His Kingdom
4. Being a blessing to others
5. Expecting God to take care of me because I am his child.
 
iwant2serve

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Joidevivre said:
But how you define prosperity differs with each person.
To one person, prosperity is being able to just make their house payment. To another it is about owning a yacht.

Prosperity to me at my age is not at all about money. It is about the riches of health, friends, and being able to enjoy the simple gifts that God gives me. It is the ability to play. It is the ability to see and enjoy the shadings of a leaf, and the beauty of a flower's petal. To taste and savor a bite of food.

I am rich! The things that prosper me are things money can't buy.
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I would think as we grow older and wiser that our understanding changes as we see life from a different prospective.
 
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PurerInHeart

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When inexpensive becomes expensive.
 
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When the garage is full, if you're blessed enough to have a garage, I still don't know what a garage is, but if it's full and your closets are full and any storage space is full, you probably have to much. I'm just saying!
 
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PurerInHeart

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iwant2serve said:
That is everything these days no matter how much you have or don't have lol.
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It seems that way to me because I'm poor. But Michael Jackson buying a vase for millions of dollars is a ridiculous waste. What an insult to poor people- that a man made structure is worth more to him than the souls God created and died for to save.
 
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PurerInHeart

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"Lord God, I thank You
for dished and laundry to do-
for we are clothed and fed
with a roof above our head"
 
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crossnote said:
In order for Communism/Socialism to work as in the early Church there needs to be a change of hearts not political leaders.
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Must have a perfect leader.

Last I checked, the only one who fits that bill died, Was resurrected three days later, and is sitting at the right hand of God, Until time he comes to set up that kingdom..
 
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