Putting God in a box, or putting your ideas in a cracked crock pot of error?

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eternally-gratefull

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this knucklehead was on vacation for 2.5 weeks in sunny california :) other than that i really don't have much wisdom to give since everyone in here already knows it all ;)
glad i'm missed tho... at least by one person, that accounts for somethin!

Wow. Nice. I bet you loved that. Glad your back. I have missed ya also!
 
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silverwind

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Wow. Nice. I bet you loved that. Glad your back. I have missed ya also!
awww, that is so nice... hey.. let's make this thread all about me ;) HANDS UP who else missed me? lol

yep california was very nice, especially the blue sky, since i never see it anymore due to vitamin spraying ;)
 
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eternally-gratefull

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zone

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I always see spiritual red flags when I hear someone make comments about putting God in a box. Don't hear me wrong, often we can put handcuffs on God, actually it's more like handcuffs on our thoughts about God, and we can indeed have a limited view of what he can and won't do.

Regardless, I'm convinced that when some people resort to the 'don't put God in a box' mantra, what they're really saying is: "Please accept my crackpot idea blindly without testing. I spent time letting it slowly cook in my cracked theological crock pot of error, letting it heat up to some nice heresy. If you don't accept what I say/teach, then you're just limiting God and quenching the Spirit."

I'm sorry, but the 'putting God in a box' mantra, should not be used to give ones crack pot spiritual ideas cover, so the masses will blindly accept the error you let slowly cook in your cracked crock pot. We don't have to put your slowly simmered morsels of error on our plate. We're not going to be guilted in to partaking of your morsels of error, just because we're afraid of 'putting God in a box'.

I'm a pot of fragile clay as it is. A jar of clay God is working in. I'm not going to let some crack pot teaching inside my already fragile clay jar. There's not room in this clay jar for both God and someone else's crack pot teachings and non-words from God.
wow stillman.
very well said.
 

zone

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Jesus said, “Truly, truly, I say to you, he who does not enter by the door into the fold of the sheep, but climbs up some other way, he is a thief and a robber” (John 10:1). The true sheep enter the sheepfold through the door, Jesus Christ (John 10:7). He as the Good Shepherd lays down His life for the sheep (John 10:11). He protects His sheep from the wolves, gives them pasture, and abundant life (John 10:10-15). Being in the sheepfold may seem restrictive compared to the adventures of exploring the bigger world out there unencumbered by the guidance of the Shepherd. However the restrictions are there to save our spiritual lives.

The restrictions God places on how and by what means we may legitimately come to Him and receive spiritual truth are for our own good. The spirit world that Christian mystics like Morton Kelsey want to explore is far more complex than even Jung and Kelsey give it credit for being. The dangers of deception are far more real. In fact, if we journey into the world of the spirits by means other that what God has ordained, we will be deceived, not may be deceived. The spirits who inhabit that world have been there for many thousands of years practicing the art of deception. They willingly give people whatever experience they would tend to think is from God. Jose Silva, who is Catholic, when he went into his alpha level to gain guides received Jesus and Mary.72 The spirits will give you what you would expect is from God in your own context. They will provide any experience that serves their deceptive purposes, including sending a spiritual “Jesus” (see 2Corinthians 11:4). The prohibitions on divination are there to protect us from these malicious entities.

So we are not putting God in a box, God is putting us in a sheepfold if we are willing to be there. The practices of “thinking outside the box” that are so popular today are fatal when it comes to spirituality. God has not left access to spiritual truth in the hands of innovative thinkers who like pioneers blaze new trails. God has given access to Himself, once for all, through Jesus Christ who is our heavenly High Priest. The truth is revealed once for all in the Scriptures. excerp from Bob Deway
wow bobster.
very well said.
(thanks abiding...just the right time)
 

zone

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awww, that is so nice... hey.. let's make this thread all about me ;) HANDS UP who else missed me? lol

yep california was very nice, especially the blue sky, since i never see it anymore due to vitamin spraying ;)


that's me with the pencil in my hand.

what? california doesn't get CHEMTRAILED? what gives?
hmm...maybe i should start buying their lettuce again (?)

nah...like ya said, these yummy super vitmains all over our produce is waaaaaaaaaaay gooder.
 
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Consumed

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Im still waiting to know what church is the church and to hear the true doctrine, talk about crack pots lol articulate everything to the point of is there really hope?? a way, a possibility, a chance unless you cleave to their "doctrine"

So let's hear it?? Which church did you say?? What sound doctrine did you say, in full please, don't want to miss getting in heaven.
 
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AnandaHya

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I always see spiritual red flags when I hear someone make comments about putting God in a box. Don't hear me wrong, often we can put handcuffs on God, actually it's more like handcuffs on our thoughts about God, and we can indeed have a limited view of what he can and won't do.

Regardless, I'm convinced that when some people resort to the 'don't put God in a box' mantra, what they're really saying is: "Please accept my crackpot idea blindly without testing. I spent time letting it slowly cook in my cracked theological crock pot of error, letting it heat up to some nice heresy. If you don't accept what I say/teach, then you're just limiting God and quenching the Spirit."

I'm sorry, but the 'putting God in a box' mantra, should not be used to give ones crack pot spiritual ideas cover, so the masses will blindly accept the error you let slowly cook in your cracked crock pot. We don't have to put your slowly simmered morsels of error on our plate. We're not going to be guilted in to partaking of your morsels of error, just because we're afraid of 'putting God in a box'.

I'm a pot of fragile clay as it is. A jar of clay God is working in. I'm not going to let some crack pot teaching inside my already fragile clay jar. There's not room in this clay jar for both God and someone else's crack pot teachings and non-words from God.
lol :) I have found that God is a lot more patient and understanding with questions then most "teachers" who claim to know His word and truth.

I think it is wise to test all who try to "teach" you God's will instead of help you learn how to pray, read and listen to God yourself.

for isn't it more limiting to say you must listen to me then to have faith that if God taught you, that He is able to teach others as well?

I always test to see if the teachers who say they are from God display the fruit of the spirit from Galatians 5:22 :)

especially patience. lol I tend to test most people's patience ;)
 

zone

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Im still waiting to know what church is the church and to hear the true doctrine, talk about crack pots lol articulate everything to the point of is there really hope?? a way, a possibility, a chance unless you cleave to their "doctrine"

So let's hear it?? Which church did you say?? What sound doctrine did you say, in full please, don't want to miss getting in heaven.
what is the True Gospel consumed?

paul said there were others.

is rome on the right track? if not, why not? does it matter?
zone
 
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Consumed

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True gospel is to believe in the one(God)who sent the lamb to be slaughtered for us, Jesus thru repentance as the starter
To love God and love our neighbor as ourselves, fulfilling the law
Don't be swayed by this doctrine or that , apostles laid out law from grace, how to live a life walking in the spirit and not the flesh, the evidence by the fruit thereof.(peace joy etc etc)
To work out our own salvation, not by being led around with a ring in ones nose like a bull
Good thing is Jesus promised He would finish what He started in us, so we stumble on the way, if it's this world one seeks they miss the whole gospel message and given over to their reprobate mind.
Pretty simple for me abc christianity at it's best when applied
 
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dawnbreaking

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Brother Consumed,

AMEN !!!

your sister, Dawnbreaking
 
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mudustyII

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Do Not put God in a BOX.

Go by what the bible says/reads not what has been taught by man for many years.
We should learn what the bible says not (this is retelling the story again) ( he married his sister) trust what the bible says, do not add to it.

MuDusty
 
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Abiding

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Do Not put God in a BOX.

Go by what the bible says/reads not what has been taught by man for many years.
We should learn what the bible says not (this is retelling the story again) ( he married his sister) trust what the bible says, do not add to it.

MuDusty
Okeydokey Mudusty, cool seeing you here :)
Are your tennies wet?
 
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NoahsMom

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Regardless, I'm convinced that when some people resort to the 'don't put God in a box' mantra, what they're really saying is: "Please accept my crackpot idea blindly without testing. I spent time letting it slowly cook in my cracked theological crock pot of error, letting it heat up to some nice heresy. If you don't accept what I say/teach, then you're just limiting God and quenching the Spirit."
Whats your point? at the end of the day, its still gonna go on full steam, its not gonna change anything thats said or done one iota, why? Because your way is wrong, your taking scripture out of context, you have no discernment, your but a mere babe obviously not a meat eater of the word, no discernment, no love, you cant possible teach, no annointing, should I go on........the list is endless. I can add but one new phrase for ya stilly , lets go with pathetic, we dont use it enough, lets throw it in the pot too for good measure. We should NEVER test, NEVER question right? NEVER actually study and show thyself approved, cause God doesnt talk to us anyways, so obviously wed have it all wrong.
 
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Regardless, I'm convinced that when some people resort to the 'don't put God in a box' mantra, what they're really saying is: "Please accept my crackpot idea blindly without testing. I spent time letting it slowly cook in my cracked theological crock pot of error, letting it heat up to some nice heresy. If you don't accept what I say/teach, then you're just limiting God and quenching the Spirit."
Whats your point? at the end of the day, its still gonna go on full steam, its not gonna change anything thats said or done one iota, why? Because your way is wrong, your taking scripture out of context, you have no discernment, your but a mere babe obviously not a meat eater of the word, no discernment, no love, you cant possible teach, no annointing, should I go on........the list is endless. I can add but one new phrase for ya stilly , lets go with pathetic, we dont use it enough, lets throw it in the pot too for good measure. We should NEVER test, NEVER question right? NEVER actually study and show thyself approved, cause God doesnt talk to us anyways, so obviously wed have it all wrong.
Did you learn all that on this site? Along with putting ideas into the pot just throw me in that pot to, now that's pot luck?
 
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Im still waiting to know what church is the church and to hear the true doctrine, talk about crack pots lol articulate everything to the point of is there really hope?? a way, a possibility, a chance unless you cleave to their "doctrine"

So let's hear it?? Which church did you say?? What sound doctrine did you say, in full please, don't want to miss getting in heaven.

I have proposed as an outline - the thread links on this Forum:



SYSTEMATIC THEOLOGY

http://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/27584-systematic-theology.html

BIBLICAL HERMENEUTICS
http://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/26690-biblical-hermeneutics.html
Hermeneutics - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia see also Biblical hermeneutics

DOCTRINAL STATEMENT
http://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/26386-doctrinal-statement-mission-statement.html

THE PARABLES OF JESUS

http://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/28391-parables-jesus.html

PRACTICAL REPENTANCE UNTO SALVATION
http://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/28385-practical-repentance-unto-salvation.html

COMPARATIVE RELIGION
http://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/28540-comparative-religion.html

WHY APOLOGETICS

http://christianchat.com/miscellaneous/28323-why-apologetics.html

JESUS -- THE WAY!
 
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NoahsMom

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now that's pot luck? You aint right Red.....LOL, but thats ok, I guess we are just a bunch a crack pots, been called way worse tho, so its all good.