Puzzled, Why Not Talk to God About the Sabbath?

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Mitspa

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Karraster said:
Are you a lawyer? I already told you, I stay at hoime and study. Why are you hounding me?
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Just trying to help you see that your trying to teach to others something you have no business trying to teach nor do you understand...nor do you keep. So learn the law before you try to teach it to others..and keep it before you preach it!
 
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ELECT

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passinthru said:
Sorry spelled it wrong,,,,should have been TeLos.

I know Jesus said he didn't come to do away with the law but to fulfill it. If we study we will see that the law, even though not done away with, was ended in a sense due to Jesus paying the penalty for man's sin. He purchased back what Adam gave up. " The second Adam". The law was weak through man but is now fulfilled through Jesus.
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Do you kill ? worship idols ?
 
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Mitspa

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ELECT said:
Do you honour your parents ?
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I love my parents..of course that includes honor...but im not under the law of Moses but under the law of Christ to love.
 
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passinthru

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Folks we will keep the 10 commandments due to love of God through the Blood of the LAMB ...and if we fall short he is faithfull to forgive us. The spirit of God within us helps us and comforts us and teaches us as we grow. This is what we can rest in (the Sabbath rest).... Oh and ya can't con God :)
 
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Karraster

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Mitspa said:
I love my parents..of course that includes honor...but im not under the law of Moses but under the law of Christ to love.
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you are not loving toward me...tell me to shut up.
 
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Mitspa

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ELECT said:
Do you kill ? worship idols ?
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How can one who has Gods love kill? No they love...and we love Him because He first loved us....that the first commandment by the way and its based on being set free from the law of moses...not being under it.
 
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ELECT

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1 Thessalonians 5:21 Prove all things; hold fast that which is good.


The following are two letters from the late Cardinal Gibbons, of Baltimore, the highest authority of the Catholic Church in America. The first of these letters is signed by the Cardinal's Chancellor, and the second by his Secretary:

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[TD]Cardinal's Residence
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John R. Ashlew, Esq.

Dear Sir:
In answer to your first question, directed by the Cardinal to reply to your letter, I will say:

1. Who changed the Sabbath?
Answer: The holy Catholic Church.

2. Are Protestants following the Bible or the Catholic church in keeping Sunday?
Answer: The Protestants are following the custom introduced by the holy Catholic church.

3. The Protestants do contradict themselves by keeping Sunday, and at the same time profess to be guided by the Bible only.

I am most faithfully yours,

C.F. Thomas
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The following letter, from Cardinal Gibbons to the writer, bears on the same point:

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[TD]Cardinal's Residence
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Dear Mr. Franke:

At the request of his eminence, the Cardinal, I write to assure you that you are correct in your assertion that Protestants, in observing the Sunday, are following, not the Bible which they take as their only rule of action, but tradition of the church. I defy them to point out to me the word "Sunday" in the Bible; if it is not to be found there - and it cannot be - then it is not the Bible which they follow in this particular instance, but tradition, and in this they flatly contradict themselves.

The Catholic church changed the day of rest from the last to the first day of the week, because the most memorable of Christ's works were accomplished on Sunday. It is needless for me to enter any elaborate proof of the matter. They cannot prove their point from scripture. Therefore, if sincere, they must acknowledge that they draw their observance of Sunday from tradition and are therefore weekly contradicting themselves.

Yours very sincerely,
W. A. Reardon
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Mitspa

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Karraster said:
you are not loving toward me...tell me to shut up.
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I told you not to teach things you don't understand...that's love because the word of God is not a game and judgment comes on those who in pride teach things they don't understand.
 
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ELECT

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Mitspa said:
I love my parents..of course that includes honor...but im not under the law of Moses but under the law of Christ to love.
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Was this law the law of Moses ?
 
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ELECT

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Mitspa said:
I told you not to teach things you don't understand...that's love because the word of God is not a game and judgment comes on those who in pride teach things they don't understand.
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everyone thinks they are right so lets move on shall we
 
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Mitspa

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ELECT said:
1 Thessalonians 5:21 Prove all things; hold fast that which is good.


The following are two letters from the late Cardinal Gibbons, of Baltimore, the highest authority of the Catholic Church in America. The first of these letters is signed by the Cardinal's Chancellor, and the second by his Secretary:

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[TD]Cardinal's Residence
Baltimore, MD

John R. Ashlew, Esq.

Dear Sir:
In answer to your first question, directed by the Cardinal to reply to your letter, I will say:

1. Who changed the Sabbath?
Answer: The holy Catholic Church.

2. Are Protestants following the Bible or the Catholic church in keeping Sunday?
Answer: The Protestants are following the custom introduced by the holy Catholic church.

3. The Protestants do contradict themselves by keeping Sunday, and at the same time profess to be guided by the Bible only.

I am most faithfully yours,

C.F. Thomas
Chancellor[/TD]
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Well read the bible and keep the law ..every jot and tittle if you claim your under the law...keep it if you preach it!
 
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passinthru

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Well it is late and it seems we have dropped a little below 'let us reason together LOL. So I bid all a good evening and may God's word come alive and true in all our lives in wisdom and in truth.
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[TD="class: vDispa"]Come now, and let us reason together, saith the LORD: though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool.[/TD]
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Brainfreeze

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Karraster said:
who are you to say?
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Who am I ? ... I'm a true follower of Christ. I hope you can take heed as I did to understand/discern when your wrong; this way you can become a true follower as well... No ones teaching you to say your wrong!! Their teaching you that you may humble yourself to know truth.
 
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Mitspa

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ELECT said:
everyone thinks they are right so lets move on shall we
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Well do you keep the Sabbath? I can prove your wrong if you will be honest for a few mins?
 
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Karraster

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Mitspa said:
I told you not to teach things you don't understand...that's love because the word of God is not a game and judgment comes on those who in pride teach things they don't understand.
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You are the one who doesn't understand. Have you read Revelations? How do you explain...pray that your flight be not in winter...if Sabbath is no more? And what about the dragon, who makes war with those who have the faith of Messiah and follow YaH's commands?
 
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Mitspa

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Karraster said:
You are the one who doesn't understand. Have you read Revelations? How do you explain...pray that your flight be not in winter...if Sabbath is no more? And what about the dragon, who makes war with those who have the faith of Messiah and follow YaH's commands?
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Do you keep the Sabbath according to the law? Can you not answer a direct question about what your trying to say others must keep?
 
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ELECT

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Mitspa said:
Well read the bible and keep the law ..every jot and tittle if you claim your under the law...keep it if you preach it!
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pretty please explain this my wise friend

[h=1]Isaiah 66:22-24King James Version (KJV)[/h]22 For as the new heavens and the new earth, which I will make, shall remain before me, saith the Lord, so shall your seed and your name remain.
23 And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the Lord.
24 And they shall go forth, and look upon the carcases of the men that have transgressed against me: for their worm shall not die, neither shall their fire be quenched; and they shall be an abhorring unto all flesh.

 
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passinthru

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One more:
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[TD="class: td_bible_text"]And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ. [/TD]
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1Th 5:24[/TD]
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[TD="class: td_bible_text"]Faithful is he that calleth you, who also will do it.[/TD]
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