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Standing together doesn't mean me agreeing with you any more than it means you agreeing with me. Don't insinuate that I'm not the one causing division because I don't agree with you. If that's how you really feel, then just agree with me and there will be no more division!
Look, I'm not saying that Mary is the Queen of Heaven, I'm just saying that when people use that phrase, they are referring to Mary. Perhaps it is a more appropriate title for the church than it is for Mary, but that's not how the phrase is used. Do you see what I'm saying? I'm not trying to push a theological view here: I'm just saying that that title is associated with Mary, regardless of who the real Queen of Heaven is. It's like saying Apollo or Zeus are not gods: I know they're not real gods, but they were called gods throughout history, so we continue to do so. It's not a statement of belief in those gods; it's just acknowledging that that's what they are. Does that makes sense?
Look, I'm not saying that Mary is the Queen of Heaven, I'm just saying that when people use that phrase, they are referring to Mary. Perhaps it is a more appropriate title for the church than it is for Mary, but that's not how the phrase is used. Do you see what I'm saying? I'm not trying to push a theological view here: I'm just saying that that title is associated with Mary, regardless of who the real Queen of Heaven is. It's like saying Apollo or Zeus are not gods: I know they're not real gods, but they were called gods throughout history, so we continue to do so. It's not a statement of belief in those gods; it's just acknowledging that that's what they are. Does that makes sense?
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That analogy about gods wasn't very good. Here's a better one.
Queen of Heaven is like a nickname, a title someone used to refer to Mary. It's like when someone talks about "The Great Debater" they are referring to Stephen A. Douglas. If someone started a forum on here and asked the question, "Who is The Great Debater?" I would respond "Stephen A. Douglas." But if you came in and said, "Actually, Jesus was The Great Debater because he was better at winning arguments with his enemies than anyone ever has been," don't you see how that's missing the point? If I replied, "that term has traditionally been associated with Douglas, so that's who it refers to, no matter how good of a debater Jesus was; the term just does not refer to him, even though it applies to him," then you might write back with some verses about Jesus talking with the Pharisees, etc. I hope this makes my point.
Queen of Heaven is like a nickname, a title someone used to refer to Mary. It's like when someone talks about "The Great Debater" they are referring to Stephen A. Douglas. If someone started a forum on here and asked the question, "Who is The Great Debater?" I would respond "Stephen A. Douglas." But if you came in and said, "Actually, Jesus was The Great Debater because he was better at winning arguments with his enemies than anyone ever has been," don't you see how that's missing the point? If I replied, "that term has traditionally been associated with Douglas, so that's who it refers to, no matter how good of a debater Jesus was; the term just does not refer to him, even though it applies to him," then you might write back with some verses about Jesus talking with the Pharisees, etc. I hope this makes my point.
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If you want to know who the greatest debater of all time is, then that is a different question, just like if you want to know who the real Queen of Heaven is. It seemed like this person had heard or seen the term used and wanted to know to whom it was referring. If it was the classic "Regina Coeli" text that is used for a number of songs and choral pieces, then it is referring to Mary, mother of Jesus. Theological disagreements are out of place when answering that question, because the text is obviously referring to Mary, not the Church, and this is something anyone knows.
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The queen of heaven reveres to pagan,idol worship.Sorry to say this but most of the catholic believes are based on these pagan believes.Mary is elevated to the mediator between man and God.You also get the false trinity ,father ,mother, son.Ive seen pictures of God and Jesus crowning Mary as queen of heaven,scary stuff!!!
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I understand where Ur coming from Mr groundhog. I have nothing against U. Its just that my spirit only resonates with God's Word, not man's. I don't want to seem like a teacher with a meter stick, cuz I'm more like a sheep dog. If a wolf wants to come in the barn for some sheep, I'm right behind the gate... & followers of The Holy Spirit know who the TRUE gate is.
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that the BODY of Christ is whole, clean, & pure Not YET, it isn't! But we're working on it!!
Look, I'm not saying that Mary is the Queen of Heaven, And Scripture NEVER refers to the Mother of Christ as the 'Queen of Heaven'. I'm just saying that when people use that phrase, they are referring to Mary. Ignorance again? People GO TO HELL because of ignorance. It DOES NOT MATTER who people deceptively believe, that they are referring to, the problem is that when the words "Queen of Heaven" come out of their mouths, they are CALLING OUT A DEMONIC PRINICIPALITY. Perhaps it is a more appropriate title for the church than it is for Mary, but that's not how the phrase is used. No, it is not an appropriate title for the Church, the Body of Christ, either. Do you see what I'm saying? I'm not trying to push a theological view here: Well you should find out what that is and push for TRUTH. I'm just saying that that title is associated with Mary, Not in the Bible, it isn't regardless of who the real Queen of Heaven is.Sad, isn't it? Those that even in ignorance, call on the Q of H call on and PRAY TO a demon, which is idolatry, which WILL keep them out of Heaven per God's written word. It's like saying Apollo or Zeus are not gods: Actually, there is more truth to Greek Mythology than most people can fathom. I know they're not real gods, but they were called gods throughout history, so we continue to do so. It's not a statement of belief in those gods; it's just acknowledging that that's what they are. Does that makes sense? See above. WHAT IF the Nephilim ….children of angels and human females, were the children of the entities of Zeus the others?? Dig deep and do some research.
Queen of Heaven is like a nickname, a title someone used to refer to Mary.No, it is not a 'nickname". Satan has deceived those in the RCC and tricked them into THINKING that they call on Mary,…who, BTW IS DEAD, waiting for the return of her Son/Savior It's like when someone talks about "The Great Debater" they are referring to Stephen A. Douglas. If someone started a forum on here and asked the question, "Who is The Great Debater?" I would respond "Stephen A. Douglas." But if you came in and said, "Actually, Jesus was The Great Debater because he was better at winning arguments with his enemies than anyone ever has been," don't you see how that's missing the point? If I replied, "that term has traditionally been associated with Douglas, so that's who it refers to, no matter how good of a debater Jesus was; the term just does not refer to him, even though it applies to him," then you might write back with some verses about Jesus talking with the Pharisees, etc. I hope this makes my point. Your point is pointless in light of Scripture!
The queen of heaven reveres to pagan, idol worship. Sorry to say this but most of the catholic believes are based on these pagan believes. Mary is elevated to the mediator between man and God. You also get the false trinity ,father ,mother, son. I've seen pictures of God and Jesus crowning Mary as queen of heaven,scary stuff!!! It wasn't Mary they were crowning, it was the demonic principality of the Q of H. The whole picture, done by those in the occult, is to condition people to view Jesus as WEAK, small, and therefore UNWORTHY of our worship.
Maggie
Look, I'm not saying that Mary is the Queen of Heaven, And Scripture NEVER refers to the Mother of Christ as the 'Queen of Heaven'. I'm just saying that when people use that phrase, they are referring to Mary. Ignorance again? People GO TO HELL because of ignorance. It DOES NOT MATTER who people deceptively believe, that they are referring to, the problem is that when the words "Queen of Heaven" come out of their mouths, they are CALLING OUT A DEMONIC PRINICIPALITY. Perhaps it is a more appropriate title for the church than it is for Mary, but that's not how the phrase is used. No, it is not an appropriate title for the Church, the Body of Christ, either. Do you see what I'm saying? I'm not trying to push a theological view here: Well you should find out what that is and push for TRUTH. I'm just saying that that title is associated with Mary, Not in the Bible, it isn't regardless of who the real Queen of Heaven is.Sad, isn't it? Those that even in ignorance, call on the Q of H call on and PRAY TO a demon, which is idolatry, which WILL keep them out of Heaven per God's written word. It's like saying Apollo or Zeus are not gods: Actually, there is more truth to Greek Mythology than most people can fathom. I know they're not real gods, but they were called gods throughout history, so we continue to do so. It's not a statement of belief in those gods; it's just acknowledging that that's what they are. Does that makes sense? See above. WHAT IF the Nephilim ….children of angels and human females, were the children of the entities of Zeus the others?? Dig deep and do some research.
Queen of Heaven is like a nickname, a title someone used to refer to Mary.No, it is not a 'nickname". Satan has deceived those in the RCC and tricked them into THINKING that they call on Mary,…who, BTW IS DEAD, waiting for the return of her Son/Savior It's like when someone talks about "The Great Debater" they are referring to Stephen A. Douglas. If someone started a forum on here and asked the question, "Who is The Great Debater?" I would respond "Stephen A. Douglas." But if you came in and said, "Actually, Jesus was The Great Debater because he was better at winning arguments with his enemies than anyone ever has been," don't you see how that's missing the point? If I replied, "that term has traditionally been associated with Douglas, so that's who it refers to, no matter how good of a debater Jesus was; the term just does not refer to him, even though it applies to him," then you might write back with some verses about Jesus talking with the Pharisees, etc. I hope this makes my point. Your point is pointless in light of Scripture!
The queen of heaven reveres to pagan, idol worship. Sorry to say this but most of the catholic believes are based on these pagan believes. Mary is elevated to the mediator between man and God. You also get the false trinity ,father ,mother, son. I've seen pictures of God and Jesus crowning Mary as queen of heaven,scary stuff!!! It wasn't Mary they were crowning, it was the demonic principality of the Q of H. The whole picture, done by those in the occult, is to condition people to view Jesus as WEAK, small, and therefore UNWORTHY of our worship.
Maggie
Jer 44:25 So says Jehovah of Hosts, the God of Israel, saying: You and your wives have both spoken with your mouths, and fulfilled with your hands, saying, We will surely fulfil our vows that we have vowed, to burn incense to the queen of heaven, and to pour out drink offerings to her. You will surely fulfil your vows and surely carry out your vows.
The Queen of Heaven I believe is some babylonian or chaldean belief in some goddess or something like that.
The R.C.C believes it to be the real Mother Mary of Jesus, but actually it's a pagan copy. Hence the pagan connection between Rome and Mary.
BTW those who call God Mother or say he/she God probably believe in this QOH.
The Queen of Heaven I believe is some babylonian or chaldean belief in some goddess or something like that.
The R.C.C believes it to be the real Mother Mary of Jesus, but actually it's a pagan copy. Hence the pagan connection between Rome and Mary.
BTW those who call God Mother or say he/she God probably believe in this QOH.
J
There are two Queen's of Heaven. Kind of like when a Queen gives birth to a Prince, then that Prince becomes King. The King takes a bride, and that Bride is his Queen. The King's mother, though, is still Queenly. She's got to be, her son is a king.
Jesus is the King of Kings. He's King of Heaven, Earth, and Hell (Hell's not "Satan's Domain" it's his prison. People often forget that. "King of Hell" sounds spooky, I understand, but my point is that God's Sovereignty is Ultimate, and knows no bounds.) Jesus was completely sinless, and one of the Ten Commandments is "Honor thy mother and father." Jesus honors his Mom. Jesus was born of Mary, and if He is King, how can she not be a Queen in her own right?
The Second Queen is us, the Church. Those who confess the Lord Jesus as their Savior and mean it. We are, figuratively, the Bride of Christ. We're God's spouse. We, as the body of believers who follow Jesus, are the Princess who will one day be rescued by the King and made his wife; made a Queen.
Jesus is the King of Kings. He's King of Heaven, Earth, and Hell (Hell's not "Satan's Domain" it's his prison. People often forget that. "King of Hell" sounds spooky, I understand, but my point is that God's Sovereignty is Ultimate, and knows no bounds.) Jesus was completely sinless, and one of the Ten Commandments is "Honor thy mother and father." Jesus honors his Mom. Jesus was born of Mary, and if He is King, how can she not be a Queen in her own right?
The Second Queen is us, the Church. Those who confess the Lord Jesus as their Savior and mean it. We are, figuratively, the Bride of Christ. We're God's spouse. We, as the body of believers who follow Jesus, are the Princess who will one day be rescued by the King and made his wife; made a Queen.
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