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Inquisitor

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well I don't know about that.

It only the Zionist Jews I worry about really.

But you don't have to be a Jew to be a Zionist.

But anyway I believe Jesus came to fulfill the law in every believer too 😂

So I see it as a process for everyone.

There is no way you can love your neighbour or your enemy without knowing the law.

I think it's good to know the law.

But honestly it's only the Zionists who have got my goat up.

But to be honest I'm sick to death of religious arguments
I think you can love another without knowing the law.
 
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I think you can love another without knowing the law.
it's impossible for a judge to judge fairly without knowing the law. .

And it's impossible for children to learn right from wrong without the law

But the law is about Health not just about preaching.

I believe Jesus came to fulfill the law in everybody 😊
 
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I also believe we are under a new covenant which is full of law
 

Inquisitor

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it's impossible for a judge to judge fairly without knowing the law. .

And it's impossible for children to learn right from wrong without the law

But the law is about Health not just about preaching.

I believe Jesus came to fulfill the law in everybody 😊
Many children around the world are raised without any knowledge of the law. Judges perform their duty without any reference to the law of Moses.

Good health, seriously, is not based on the food laws given to Israel.

You can love others without the law of Moses.

True love is generated by the Holy Spirit in the hearts of believers.

The letter of the law is not the source of love. Condemnation perhaps.
 
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Many children around the world are raised without any knowledge of the law. Judges perform their duty without any reference to the law of Moses.

Good health, seriously, is not based on the food laws given to Israel.

You can love others without the law of Moses.

True love is generated by the Holy Spirit in the hearts of believers.

The letter of the law is not the source of love. Condemnation perhaps.
wasn't talking about food health, I was talking about mental health, when a person suffers mental anguish for not knowing if they are acting in accordance to God's word and making the correct Judgement.

As for the law of love, also comes responsibility of accepting weakness in those who may slip up in love, like not loving your mother or your father.

So you would need to study God's law for this situation 😊
 
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Who is Israel.

Well biden biden what do you say,

.how many children have you killed today


 
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There is no "obsession" with Israel. However, if you are a Bible-believing Christian, you need to know God's plan not only for the Church (which includes both redeemed Jews and Gentiles) but also God's plan for redeemed and restored Israel (the twelve tribes) under Christ.

Unfortunately too many Christians have not been shown this plan, and do not understand that the Abrahamic Covenant has not been completely fulfilled as yet. Paul warns Christians to not be "high-minded" about unbelieving Jews, since one day (he says) "All Israel shall be saved". And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written [in the OT], There shall come out of Sion [Jerusalem] the Deliverer [the Lord Jesus Christ], and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob [the twelve tribes of Israel]: (Rom 11:26) Of course he is not including unbelieving Jews in that statement. "All Israel" means every one of the twelve tribes of Israel.

But people will say "What about the ten "lost tribes"? Well they are not "lost" to God therefore He gives us a glimpse of "all Israel" in Revelation 7 and 14. Those 144,000 redeemed Jews are from the twelve tribes. and that prophecy is for the future. Then in Ezekiel 48 God gives us a list of the twelve tribes given their allotted portions of land in greater Israel (also in the future).

Modern Israel DOES NOT represent "believing Israel", even though God wants every Jew to be saved. Also "Messianic Jews" (believers in Yeshua ha Mashiach) in Israel are violating New Testament principles by segregating themselves from Gentile churches. Regardless of all this, Christians need to know what the Bible says, and what will be in the future under Christ.
Now this sounds like poor theology made out of reading a personal interpretation into some hard searched verses.

Nowhere inthe Bible it says clearly there are 2 different covenants, but its very clear that the old was made obsolete. Hebrews 8:13
 
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Now this sounds like poor theology made out of reading a personal interpretation into some hard searched verses.

Nowhere inthe Bible it says clearly there are 2 different covenants, but its very clear that the old was made obsolete. Hebrews 8:13
nope he made the old new.

Not finished.

God even says he will remember his covenant with Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob,
 

Pilgrimshope

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Have you not learned: The Law and the Prophets all point to Jesus Yeshua. We do learn from our schoolmaster, but all has been made clear by the Master, Jesus Yeshua.
Amen the law is wonderful to learn from as we come understand it is not our governing law or covenant word but instead was witnessing Christ who is and would bring our covenant word to pass

If we are a born again Christian we do t actually need a law telling us “ you must not kill anyone if you kill anyone you just surely be killed by your neighbors “

If we are learning from Jesus and following what we are learning as disciples were never going to do harm to other people we won’t kill anyone , commit adultery , bear false witness against someone , ect

It isn’t that we have no word it’s just that it’s Jesus word instead of Moses word. The ordination and mediation is different

It is forgive the sinner as many times as it takes like Jesus said , rather than take equal revenge upon them .

It is repent of your sins or you’ll all perish in the end ,

rather then “you must surely be executed according to the law if you ever commit this sin or that sin or this other sin or that other sin “

First we have to remove the “ if your unhappy with your wife for some reason divorce her legally and then send her away and you may both freely remarry “

before we can take up the “ when you marry someone your making a sacred commitment before God to stick it through the thick and thin theres no reason to divorce except for fornication and remarriage is not something freely done “

The law will always define what is sinful but can’t justify anyone we can always learn many things from the law but to learn Gods Will for mankind we need to hear and believe Jesus and the gospel and let that become our Law written and treasured up in our holy of holies our heart , tbe ark of our covenant who hear the gospel and believe

once we understand we arent part of the old covenant not governed by Moses words we can really learn a ton from its patterns and figures regarding Christ
 

Nehemiah6

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Nowhere in the Bible it says clearly there are 2 different covenants...
Did I say there are two covenants? "Poor theology"? "Personal interpretation"? Obviously you have no desire to lear the truth, so Good Bye.
 
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Who is Isreal

A question that nobody will answer

Does anyone hear a show being put on here, or is it just me

Does anyone hear him saying we have had people killed them change it to they

Does anyone heat him say the job is done.

Can anyone hear or see how casual he is about the whole thing

Does anyone see his lies



 
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In my opinion, Israel was chosen by God only because of its geographical location.This position represents life on the map.Maybe God likes the sense of ritual as much as human beings.
Israel is not an excellent race that surpasses other race.
Israel's current state is more like being given a sacred mission but perfunctory.
Israel, like other races, has excellent people and mediocre people.
In short, the main reason for Israel's current state is that they do not obey God's will.
In the Bible, Israel has always been a stranger in other races land.So why don't they keep doing this?If they only embrace the first five books of the Old Testament.