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Ramon

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My behaviour is abnormal is comparison to my peers at all times, but no on the way out the assembly hall everyone meant to shake his hand and the second time ( we get him once a month) He took my hand then let go like id burned him and said somthing like "You have very many many demons in you," And now he doesnt shake my hand any more on the way out the door just throws me dirty looks... Not exactly my best experience with religion.
My friend, isn't it obvious then? I know you are not foolish. If this man were worth anything, then why could he not cast the demons out? Is he afraid of demons or something? My friend, when you learn, remember this, that the kingdom of God is not in words, but in power. Jesus did not see a person with demons and say, ''WHOA, you have demons,'' and walk away from him. Jesus cast out the demons, and when the demons would speak he would tell them to tell no one who he is.

However, there was one man, full of Satan, who thought he might just go and cast out demons using the name of Jesus. He was foolish too. The demons in the person turned to him, spoke to him, saying,'' We know Jesus, and we know Paul, but who are you?'' And that same demon filled him, and they went away woundig themselves.
 
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paulnsilas

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The irony and hypocrisy is astonishing.
 

pickles

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How heartbreaking, that one who would lead in Jesus would instead defeat.
Amandahya, so true, if onecan see, they should also remove in Jesus.
May Jesus bring His truth to those that have been lost.

In Jesus, God bless.
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Not really no I was rather hurt though that he singled me out, especially considering the assorted human scum that attend my school in the majority o_O

suffer little children,and forbid them not,to come unto me:for of such is the kingdom of heaven.
 
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AnandaHya

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The irony and hypocrisy is astonishing.
I'm sorry everyone if you would like to see an example of a hypocritical complacent goat of a woman you should read Paulnsilas post:

she has told me spiritual warfare is occult, spiritual gifts have ceased and do not function in the present world and that contemporary Christian music is also brainwashing the youth,goes against HER belief system and I need to stop listening to it.

I think she might find friends with her twin spiritual sister ZONE who is also female 51 and has been saved "since the foundation of the world" Just thought I'd warn the sheep. Just in case she choose you as her next target. I've received email warnings about how she will stalk you from thread to thread.


http://christianchat.com/search.php?searchid=59916

I think you two would get along nicely

Oh and this site apparently is the "choir" and I need to people about Jesus who are not already Christian because of course we don't have Muslims, atheist and others openly posting on this site are anything, right? (note the sarcasm, not sure if it comes over the internet)

Matthew 25:31-46 (New King James Version)

The Son of Man Will Judge the Nations


31 “When the Son of Man comes in His glory, and all the holy[a] angels with Him, then He will sit on the throne of His glory. 32 All the nations will be gathered before Him, and He will separate them one from another, as a shepherd divides his sheep from the goats. 33 And He will set the sheep on His right hand, but the goats on the left. 34 Then the King will say to those on His right hand, ‘Come, you blessed of My Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world: 35 for I was hungry and you gave Me food; I was thirsty and you gave Me drink; I was a stranger and you took Me in; 36 I was naked and you clothed Me; I was sick and you visited Me; I was in prison and you came to Me.’
37 “Then the righteous will answer Him, saying, ‘Lord, when did we see You hungry and feed You, or thirsty and give You drink? 38 When did we see You a stranger and take You in, or naked and clothe You? 39 Or when did we see You sick, or in prison, and come to You?’ 40 And the King will answer and say to them, ‘Assuredly, I say to you, inasmuch as you did it to one of the least of these My brethren, you did it to Me.’
41 “Then He will also say to those on the left hand, ‘Depart from Me, you cursed, into the everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels: 42 for I was hungry and you gave Me no food; I was thirsty and you gave Me no drink; 43 I was a stranger and you did not take Me in, naked and you did not clothe Me, sick and in prison and you did not visit Me.’
44 “Then they also will answer Him, saying, ‘Lord, when did we see You hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison, and did not minister to You?’ 45 Then He will answer them, saying, ‘Assuredly, I say to you, inasmuch as you did not do it to one of the least of these, you did not do it to Me.’ 46 And these will go away into everlasting punishment, but the righteous into eternal life



Isaiah 32:9-15 (New King James Version)

Consequences of Complacency

9 Rise up, you women who are at ease,
Hear my voice;
You complacent daughters,
Give ear to my speech.
10 In a year and some days
You will be troubled, you complacent women;
For the vintage will fail,
The gathering will not come.
11 Tremble, you women who are at ease;
Be troubled, you complacent ones;
Strip yourselves, make yourselves bare,
And gird sackcloth on your waists.
 

zone

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I'm sorry everyone if you would like to see an example of a hypocritical complacent goat of a woman you should read Paulnsilas post:

she has told me spiritual warfare is occult, spiritual gifts have ceased and do not function in the present world and that contemporary Christian music is also brainwashing the youth,goes against HER belief system and I need to stop listening to it.

I think she might find friends with her twin spiritual sister ZONE who is also female 51 and has been saved "since the foundation of the world" Just thought I'd warn the sheep. Just in case she choose you as her next target. I've received email warnings about how she will stalk you from thread to thread.

http://christianchat.com/search.php?searchid=59916

I think you two would get along nicely

Oh and this site apparently is the "choir" and I need to people about Jesus who are not already Christian because of course we don't have Muslims, atheist and others openly posting on this site are anything, right? (note the sarcasm, not sure if it comes over the internet)

Matthew 25:31-46 (New King James Version)

The Son of Man Will Judge the Nations


31 “When the Son of Man comes in His glory, and all the holy[a] angels with Him, then He will sit on the throne of His glory. 32 All the nations will be gathered before Him, and He will separate them one from another, as a shepherd divides his sheep from the goats. 33 And He will set the sheep on His right hand, but the goats on the left. 34 Then the King will say to those on His right hand, ‘Come, you blessed of My Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world: 35 for I was hungry and you gave Me food; I was thirsty and you gave Me drink; I was a stranger and you took Me in; 36 I was naked and you clothed Me; I was sick and you visited Me; I was in prison and you came to Me.’
37 “Then the righteous will answer Him, saying, ‘Lord, when did we see You hungry and feed You, or thirsty and give You drink? 38 When did we see You a stranger and take You in, or naked and clothe You? 39 Or when did we see You sick, or in prison, and come to You?’ 40 And the King will answer and say to them, ‘Assuredly, I say to you, inasmuch as you did it to one of the least of these My brethren, you did it to Me.’
41 “Then He will also say to those on the left hand, ‘Depart from Me, you cursed, into the everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels: 42 for I was hungry and you gave Me no food; I was thirsty and you gave Me no drink; 43 I was a stranger and you did not take Me in, naked and you did not clothe Me, sick and in prison and you did not visit Me.’
44 “Then they also will answer Him, saying, ‘Lord, when did we see You hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison, and did not minister to You?’ 45 Then He will answer them, saying, ‘Assuredly, I say to you, inasmuch as you did not do it to one of the least of these, you did not do it to Me.’ 46 And these will go away into everlasting punishment, but the righteous into eternal life


Isaiah 32:9-15 (New King James Version)

Consequences of Complacency

9 Rise up, you women who are at ease,
Hear my voice;
You complacent daughters,
Give ear to my speech.
10 In a year and some days
You will be troubled, you complacent women;
For the vintage will fail,
The gathering will not come.
11 Tremble, you women who are at ease;
Be troubled, you complacent ones;
Strip yourselves, make yourselves bare,
And gird sackcloth on your waists.





amazing!
 
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AnandaHya

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ironic you speak of her and she shows up. WOW!

now you know I don't belong to a Pentecostal church.

I currently attend a Methodist church and before that a Baptist and Episcopalian church, not that it makes any difference because you like your spiritual sister are both unlikely to listen to rational, reasonable intelligent conversation that contradicts what you say or believe.

the idea is since you haven't seen it occur and don't know about it you don't believe it.

that's why so many child molesters are allowed into the clergy, they can lie and fit your critequa but when someone tells you something to make you question YOUR decision, well they must be lying, deceived or asked for it, eehh??

White washed tombs.

Matthew 23:13
“But woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you shut up the kingdom of heaven against men; for you neither go in yourselves, nor do you allow those who are entering to go in.

Matthew 23:15
“Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you travel land and sea to win one proselyte, and when he is won, you make him twice as much a son of hell as yourselves.

Matthew 15

Defilement Comes from Within

1 Then the scribes and Pharisees who were from Jerusalem came to Jesus, saying, 2 “Why do Your disciples transgress the tradition of the elders? For they do not wash their hands when they eat bread.”
3 He answered and said to them, “Why do you also transgress the commandment of God because of your tradition?


Matthew 15:7-14 (New King James Version)

7 Hypocrites! Well did Isaiah prophesy about you, saying:
8 ‘ These people draw near to Me with their mouth,
And[a]honor Me with their lips,
But their heart is far from Me.
9 And in vain they worship Me,
Teaching as doctrines the commandments of men.’”

10 When He had called the multitude to Himself, He said to them, “Hear and understand: 11 Not what goes into the mouth defiles a man; but what comes out of the mouth, this defiles a man.”
12 Then His disciples came and said to Him, “Do You know that the Pharisees were offended when they heard this saying?”
13 But He answered and said, “Every plant which My heavenly Father has not planted will be uprooted. 14 Let them alone. They are blind leaders of the blind. And if the blind leads the blind, both will fall into a ditch.”

I you think anyone is a false anything then you should listen to Jesus advice to His disciples and LET THEM ALONE and TRUST and HAVE FAITH that God will deal with it.

that would be the logical thing to do.


Me, I study people and I allow God to judge them and deal with them, so since someone pointed out the parrallels between zone and paulnsilas, I will probably investigate and find out if I agree with them.
 
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unclefester

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Ananda you'd have a feild day with me, according to the chaplain at my school Im possessed by several dozen demons :)
That "chaplain" is no chaplain at all. Anybody that would say anything so ridiculous, and to a 14 yr.old no less doesn't have a shred of God or His love in their entire being. I grow tired of these... "demon this" and "demon that" proclamations. They stem from fear, ignorance and the PRETENSE of knowing and understanding the majesty and power of our Lord and Saviour. Those who truly dwell in Christ know this.......1 John:4:18...Love has no fear, because perfect love expels all fear. If we are afraid, it is for fear of punishment, and this shows that we have NOT fully experienced His perfect love. Why ? To fear is not to trust that God's sacrifice in Christ paid the full price for the forgiveness of our sins. A preached "gospel" of fear is 100 % contrary and in opposition to the true gospel of love and forgiveness given to us in Christ. My friend....I want you to know, understand and believe that when you hear such things as you've experienced from this "chaplain", it is NOT from the heart of God. HE (Christ) came so that we might have life...and have it more abundantly. His love for you is as it ever was.....full, complete and more than our limited minds could ever fathom. You are precious to Him. Those whose focus is on the "demons et al" have yet to experience the love of God in Christ.....and freedom from the fear,the guilt and the shame that once was present but no longer is. To be free in Christ is to be free indeed ! God bless :)
 

zone

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that's why so many child molesters are allowed into the clergy, they can lie and fit your critequa but when someone tells you something to make you question YOUR decision, well they must be lying, deceived or asked for it, eehh??
THE ABOVE VOMIT IS THE FRUIT OF THIS:


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The short version: Latter Rain/Manifest Sons of God doctrine is a new doctrine per se that the Assemblies of God (AOG) rejected in 1949/50. They rejected it because it went AGAINST orthodox/normal Christian teaching. This teaching was mainly introduced into the church via the following person: William Branham. William Branham was so popular (healing miracles, signs and wonders) that he spawned what is known today as Word of Faith teaching: Oral Roberts, Kenneth Hagin, Kenneth Copeland, Marilyn Hickey, Kathryn Kuhlman, Paul Cain, Benny Hinn, Rodney Howard-Browne, Morris Currello et al. The list of people is enormous hence this movement spread around the world the way it did.

Word of Faith teaching started out disguised as normal Christian teaching but contained a poisonous stream of Latter Rain teaching which for a better word I would call occult. Over the years this Latter Rain teaching has grown and grown, bigger and bigger, taking over the church completely. 80% or more of the books in your local Christian bookstore are Word of Faith/Latter Rain.

This is the apostasy Jesus Christ spoke of in the last days where a fake Christianity would arise deceiving the entire world.



What are the tell tale signs to know if your church is following Latter Rain/Manifest Sons of God teaching:
  • Spiritual warfare:
    • Spiritual warfare conducted through intense worship and praise
    • Spiritual mapping
    • Identifying strongholds
    • Rebuking demonic powers and binding territorial spirits
    • Walking through towns, praying over buildings to remove/bind evil spirits
    • Spiritual warriors and Intercessors
    • Sole purpose of this is to reclaim towns, cities, states/provinces, countries, and finally the earth for 'Christ'
      • If the evil moves out, Christians will move in
      • If they 'bind' the evil, people will 'get saved' and come to Jesus.
  • Signs and wonders:
    • Small to large amount of focus on signs and wonders which will prepare you for:
      • An Elite group of overcomer's (false prophets) who WILL produce signs and wonders unlike anything ever seen
    • Healing ministries
  • They believe in the restoration of the church.
  • They believe in the restoration of the 5 fold ministry.
    • Offices of apostles and prophets.
    • The apostles and prophets have authority.
    • Their focus is strong sheparding and discipleship.
  • A perfection of the saints.
    • Immortalization.
    • The attainment of being Christ as we become just like Christ in nature and ability.
  • Christians will rule the earth (Dominion/Kingdom Now)
  • They mostly deny a rapture in the classic sense.
    • Some replace it with individual raptures.
    • A collective transformation to immortality on earth.
    • Some mention they believe Jesus Christ is coming back (as per scripture) but this is not what they really believe.
  • Manifest Sons teachings are Kingdom Dominionists
  • Great Harvest of souls (forms part of Revival):
    • An end time harvest of billions of souls
    • Majority of the world will be won to Christ
    • A Kingdom would be established or ready to be received by Christ.
    • Or the church will become Christ
  • Transformation/Reformation and Reconciliation based on 'Christian principles' (see Christian values/Kingdom values below)
    • Pastors and Youth Leaders to come together
    • Family to come together
    • Political leaders to come together
    • Businesses to come together
    • Government to come together
    • Areas targeted: family, the community, the arts, sciences, media, law, government, schools and business
  • Focus on Revival:
    • Toronto Blessing, Azuza Street, Pensecola, Brownsville and Lakeland (Todd Bentley)
    • Global and International Prayer days, Global Revival
    • Promise Keepers, Mighty Men Conferences
    • Main aim: United power of agreement for global revival (preparing Joel's army)
  • Extra-biblical teaching:
    • Prophecy spoken that points towards any of the points listed here
    • New revelations and new knowledge that falls outside of orthodox (i.e., normal) Christian teaching.
  • A governing body for the Church:
    • Lead by apostles and prophets.
    • Rule the Church through establishing independent churches
    • Non-denominational and unaffiliated however all under the central leadership of the apostles and prophets
    • Christian unity (all faiths professing some form of Christianity are considered Christian)
  • They call themselves: apostles or prophets:
  • Blessings and Curses:
    • The apostles and prophets will give blessings on those who agree and follow them
    • And curses upon those who don't follow them.
  • Words and Faith:
    • The power of their words would bring results (Word of Faith)
      • God inhabits your praises
    • The more faith you have the more 'Christian' you are
    • You can speak healing into your life through words/faith
    • Faith is a force
    • Faith brings wealth and health:
      • The healthier you are the more faith you have
      • The wealthier you are the more faith you have
    • The main belief of Prosperity is this:
      • God will reward His faithful
      • God will transfer wealth to his faithful children
        • Transfer of wealth will go from 'ungodly' people to 'godly' people (His faithful)
    • Main aim: Christians need wealth to 'reclaim' the earth for Christ (Kingdom Now/Dominion)
  • Christian Values / Kingdom Value:
    • Values that can be learned and applied to ones life which brings about the appearance of a Christian life
    • The REAL Holy Spirit is not involved in bringing this change into peoples lives
  • Fake holy spirit:
    • Counterfeit spirits ('FIRE' called down from heaven / slain in the spirit) are brought onto people
    • Strange manifestations (Kundalini spirit manifestations)
      • Laughing
      • Drunkardness
      • Electricity sensation
      • Feeling of heat in the body
      • No control of your body
  • Anointings:
    • Multiple anointings - there is an anointing for everything
    • Anointings can be transfered from one person to another
    • Anointing/false spirit transfered via: touching, thought, blowing, gesturing, etc.
  • Mantles:
    • Multiple mantles - there seems to be a mantle for everything
    • Mantles can be passed from person to person
    • Most famous Mantle: William Branham's Mantle
  • Occult experiences:
    • Out of body experiences
      • Visiting people in dreams
      • Visiting places (earthly or heavenly)
    • Third Heaven or 'trips to heaven and hell' experiences
    • Communicating with the dead in visions (be it saints or angels)
  • Angels:
    • Angels that accompany the pastor
    • Angels that bring healing
    • Any focus on angels; speaking with angels, visitation by angels etc,.
  • Believe and teach things that New Age and/or Occultists believe/teach/practice:
    • Portals, gateways, spiritual gates
    • Heavenly realms, prayer realms, seer realms, glory realms
    • Spiritual altars
    • Opening the Heavens
    • Ekstasis Worship
    • Spiritual hotspots, geographical areas that are more spiritual than others
    • Atmosphere, vibrations, light, sound and colours
    • Numerology - applying symbolism or significance to numbers
  • What they really mean by 'repentance of sin':
    • Repentance of sin is either completely ignored or there is very little focus
    • Repentance of sin becomes a group affair in other words the entire congregation will repent of sin in unison
    • Repentance for other peoples sin or the sins of the country
    • The Holy Spirit is not what brings about repentance
    • There is no conviction f rom the Holy Spirit
    • Living a good life is considered 'repentance of sin'
  • Visitations by a 'Jesus':
    • Jesus appearing to people in visions or physically appearing to people
  • Strange prayer practices:
    • Meditation (clearing the mind)
    • Breathing practice
    • Reciting scripture over and over again
    • Reciting someone elses prayer e.g., The Prayer of Jabez
    • Contemplative Prayer (Lectio Divina or Sacred Divination)
      • Allowing 'thoughts' or a 'small voice' to come into your mind giving you 'revelation' into scripture (usually done by following the above points)
  • Joel's Army:
    • Joel's army is made up of a group of 'immortal' beings that will bring judgment upon the ungodly
    • The mention of a Christian army of any kind is Joel's army
    • Immobilizing prayer groups
    • Ungodly in this sense is those who appose them
    • All who do not accept the authority of the new apostles and prophets will be 'removed'
    • Cleansing of the earth of evil to establish His Kingdom
  • Focus on Youth (Joel's Army)
    • Focus on youth and 'Christan values/Kingdom Values'
      • Focus on youth for they are the least discerning
      • Focus on youth for they will 'lead the future' - Children are the future
    • Parents will encourage their children because of the wonderful change in their lives
  • Holy Land / Israel:
    • Applying scripture meant for Israel to the church and vice versa
    • Main aim: Latter Rainers are going to try take the Holy Land for themselves.
  • Christian unity:
    • All faiths that profess some kind of 'Christian' teaching are considered Christian
    • Conferences are held where 'all Christian faiths' come together
    • They all believe in a 'Christ' and they call him 'Jesus' but it's not the biblical Jesus Christ
    • The earth is going to be one big happy family under 'Christ'
    • Global peace plan
  • Christ comes into the church before he comes for the church
    • That the Church, his body will actually become Christ on earth, glorious and triumphant
  • Divinity, becoming a little 'god'
    • Teaching that when you 'accept Jesus into your life' you become like Christ or start to actually become like Christ.
    • Word of Faith affirms this by teaching that we can 'speak things into existence' just as God did when He created the earth.
    • We are progressing in our godliness:
      • The Christian life, has levels to go through, to reach maturity:
        1. The first level is that of servant of God,
        2. The second level is that of a friend of God,
        3. The third level is to become a 'son of God' which means you are now a 'god' or a 'little god'
      • This is only obtained via revelation from the apostles and prophets
    • When you enter Heaven you will be on the same level as 'Jesus Christ'
  • Some keywords:
    • apostolic, new wine, glory, refreshing, latter rain, glory cloud, soaking, move into the supernatural, prophetic, new breed, third wave, purpose driven, winds of change, winds of revival supernatural motion, glory of the Lord, birthing, God's kingdom is further being established on earth as it is in heaven, angelic hosts being released, connection points, portals, revival hubs, releasing, impartation's or imparted with… , DNA, quantum, spiritual covering, global harvest, rains of revival, great awakening, new age, new dawn, suddenlies, oneness in Christ, unity, secret place, glory of God manifests on earth, visitation or visitations, paradigm, shifting, alignment, transported, prophetic towers, revolution, revolutionary, vertical and horizontal apostles, new beginnings, soaking in the Glory, operate in the glory and power of God, city transformation, activating and mobilizing others into their gifting, accurate prophetic words, prophetess, nazarite, passion for revival, intercessor, releasing power and glory, promise keepers (mighty men, iron men), rise up army of believers, passing on the mantle, Elijah legacy, Anointings named after biblical people, transformation, third heaven, opening the heavens, God is doing a new thing in your life, increasing your anointing, pulling up the tent stakes, God is increasing your territory, etc…"
100% DEMONIC.

ad nauseum.

stay alert CHURCH.

http://prophecyfellowship.yuku.com/topic/9648
 
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kujo313

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Ok let me get this out of the way. I've heard the warnings, I know its dangerous, but I think everyone needs to learn about it and talk about it.

Offensive game plan of the Devil #1: Oblivion and bliss, Pride and self righteousness

Get people to believe evil does not exist, the spirit world is the imagination of over active minds and not relevant to everyone. Make sure their defenses are low and they are unprepared or unaware of the poison my minions.

Offensive game plan #2:Emotion: Hopelessness and Depression

If people become aware of the spirit world get them to worship forces of Darkness by giving them the powers that they do not possess. Make me like God in their minds and make them think that darkness is more powerful than Light, the Dark knows all, sees all, and controls all things in the world. Have them bow down before the idols of the world. Lead them astray. Rain down threats of destruction to try and have them hide their light or completely put it out and lose faith in God's justice and ultimate goodness. Make them doubt God. Destroy the followers of Light before they can learn to cast out demons, heal the sick and lead people back to God. Get followers of Darkness to become like madden swine and kill and destroy and slaughter them. Make them feel powerless and cloud their minds so they don't even think to use the weapons God has given them to defeat darkness. Make them forget the verse that "the spirit that resides in them is greater then the one that resides in the world." make them feel unworthy to take up the power and engage in battle to win the souls of God's children from the forces of darkness.

Offensive game plan #3: Emotion: superiority and pride, hardening of the heart, self righteousness

Make them harden their hearts to the suffering of others, so they do not try and save them and lead them to God. Ok they have the cure, now to contain the information so that Darkness still reigns in this world. Keep the workers of light from even wanting to help others. Make them judgmental and feel superior. Boost up their pride so that they are made to feel super holy. Keep them too busy doing the rituals and routines they forget about saving the people and actually building a meaningful in depth relationship.


that is the devil's game plan does anyone know what God's counter Battle plan is? (hint its in the Bible)

Here is my challenge: help me gather stories and testimonies of demonic warfare and weapons used to defeat them in the world.

God has given me the gift to physically see and hear demons and angels converse in the spirit realm. I am looking for others who have been given that ability too. We need to stand strong and unite to fight the forces of darkness!

I'm with you, brother!
In an army, not everybody is on the "front". Some are in hospitals, some cook food for the soldiers, some deliver supplies, etc.
I looked over the "33 Strategies of War" on ChangingMinds.org. Put those strategies into the Spiritual and you'll see just how the enemy works and how WE have to work, too.

It IS time for Spiritual Warfare! It IS time for all believers to "man their 'weapons'".

Maybe I'll start a discussion on all of these strategies. We got our "marching orders" from our "Commander". Let's get busy!
 
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AnandaHya

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I'm with you, brother!
In an army, not everybody is on the "front". Some are in hospitals, some cook food for the soldiers, some deliver supplies, etc.
I looked over the "33 Strategies of War" on ChangingMinds.org. Put those strategies into the Spiritual and you'll see just how the enemy works and how WE have to work, too.

It IS time for Spiritual Warfare! It IS time for all believers to "man their 'weapons'".

Maybe I'll start a discussion on all of these strategies. We got our "marching orders" from our "Commander". Let's get busy!
thanks for the website. may all glory be to God and no forces of darkness are able to stand against His awesome power. FOr HE has already won through HIS work on Calvary, we just have to remind people of it.

We work until Jesus comes again and defeats all darkness or calls us home.

YouTube - "We Will Stand" By Russ Taff

Zone, you need to realize that long list... some of it is Bible based, you would through the baby out with the bath water. the list is not necessarily A will lead to B. Your thoughts are too linear and the Bible talks about spiritual warfare, you can't mix it all together: the lies with the truth and expect anyone to take you seriously. Christian pirate radio is at least more discriminating and actually intelligentically anyalzes what is presented before them.

Just as natural selection is not social Darwinism. Spiritual warfare is not Latter Rain. Perhaps you should study the differences?

Natural selection basically states that the animals physical charisteristic help them live and reporoduce because predators don't eat them (simple, easy and you could add, its because God made them that way)

Social Darwinism: is when the apply the above theory to justify why HUMANS should be allowed to live or die (perverted and not true)

Spiritual warfare takes about the weapons God gave us to defend ourselves (Bible based)

Later Rain is using Social Darwinism and spiritual warfare to pervert God's gifts and make THEMSELVES better or equal to God (perverted and not true)

any questions?
 
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That "chaplain" is no chaplain at all. Anybody that would say anything so ridiculous, and to a 14 yr.old no less doesn't have a shred of God or His love in their entire being. I grow tired of these... "demon this" and "demon that" proclamations. They stem from fear, ignorance and the PRETENSE of knowing and understanding the majesty and power of our Lord and Saviour. Those who truly dwell in Christ know this.......1 John:4:18...Love has no fear, because perfect love expels all fear. If we are afraid, it is for fear of punishment, and this shows that we have NOT fully experienced His perfect love. Why ? To fear is not to trust that God's sacrifice in Christ paid the full price for the forgiveness of our sins. A preached "gospel" of fear is 100 % contrary and in opposition to the true gospel of love and forgiveness given to us in Christ. My friend....I want you to know, understand and believe that when you hear such things as you've experienced from this "chaplain", it is NOT from the heart of God. HE (Christ) came so that we might have life...and have it more abundantly. His love for you is as it ever was.....full, complete and more than our limited minds could ever fathom. You are precious to Him. Those whose focus is on the "demons et al" have yet to experience the love of God in Christ.....and freedom from the fear,the guilt and the shame that once was present but no longer is. To be free in Christ is to be free indeed ! God bless :)
EXCELLENT GOD'S counter plan!!!


My pastor told me about the spiritual armor that God gives us and how most of it is DEFENSIVE and our shield of Faith is based upon the knowledge of God's LOVE and Jesus death and RESURRECTION which is the KEY point in human history, because it marks the time when the battle was won! :)

So brethren, put on your helmets of salvation: that God so loved the world He gave His only begotten son.

Your shoes of peace, your breastplate of righteousness (earned by the correction and guidance of the Holy Spirit), pick up your sword of SPirit which is the Holy Bible and remember your arrows that cut into the heart of the enemy: your prayers, for GOD is our Father and He will answer for we who are sinful know how to give our children good things. how more will our Heavenly Father who wants the best for us?
 
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EXCELLENT GOD'S counter plan!!!


My pastor told me about the spiritual armor that God gives us and how most of it is DEFENSIVE and our shield of Faith is based upon the knowledge of God's LOVE and Jesus death and RESURRECTION which is the KEY point in human history, because it marks the time when the battle was won! :)

So brethren, put on your helmets of salvation: that God so loved the world He gave His only begotten son.

Your shoes of peace, your breastplate of righteousness (earned by the correction and guidance of the Holy Spirit), pick up your sword of SPirit which is the Holy Bible and remember your arrows that cut into the heart of the enemy: your prayers, for GOD is our Father and He will answer for we who are sinful know how to give our children good things. how more will our Heavenly Father who wants the best for us?
Counter plan ? Why would the Creator of all be in need of a "counter plan" ? Has God not been in complete control since the beginning of time ? The fear and the fear mongering that I speak of stems from the preaching of a gospel contrary to the gospel of Christ. The gospel of we (man). We must do this. We must do that. We ....we.....we. We earn nothing. We receive because we have repented and believed and trusted in whom He has sent. We are righteous and victorious through faith....and faith alone. Yes....the battle was won. The battle was won through Christ's sacrifice on the cross. So why would we then be called to fight off these "demons" and take up the "spiritual warfare" if the battle has already been won for us through Christ ? It is because of this reality that we are told not to fear. Either we trust and believe that Christ's work was sufficient or we don't. To add an iota to Christ's complete and finished work is to strive on our own. And there could be no better "proof" given to those who adhere to this false doctrine but to see the signs and wonders, the "authority" given to the "new" apostles and prophets, and the myriad of other gifts of the "spirit" spoken of which serve no other purpose but to take our focus off of God through Christ Himself.....who was and always will be MORE than sufficient to meet our every need. I am in agreement with Zone.
 
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OK then you and Zone can answer simply what do we do with our lives then?

If we see injustice done, how are we to deal with it? "signs and wonders" are in my opinion just misunderstood science just as many "miracles" that were performed before are also now proven to be just scientific advances that humanity does not understand.

I think you misunderstand the language used. I could use scientific terms instead of religious ones if you prefer but to me they are the same. Knowledge can be used by both sides and there is a spiritual war going on for the minds and souls of humanity.

if you ignore the world and evil around you, it doesn't make it go away. God calls us to DO something about it not just wait around and die.

Evil is allowed to exist in the world when good people seat back and do nothing. Jesus won but why is there still injustice in the world? what does Jesus tells us to do about it?

Our salvation is assured but does that mean we are to do nothing? faith without works is dead and people who let others suffer and justify it is what Paul talked about "using grace to cover vice"
 
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unclefester

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We are saved by grace through faith ........ for any hairsplitters that might look for a crack. This has been said often enough that I trust there are none :)
 
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AnandaHya

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UncleFester the conversation is not SALVATION, its LIFE, how do you suggest people live LIFE?

Jesus is the Way the Truth and the LIGHT THAT IS SALVATION and the ONLY WAY, but I'm asking and telling you I believe spiritual warfare is AFTER salvation and teaches HOW to abide in God's words and LIVE LIFE. I'm talking about having a mature Christian walk with Christ and learning to become more like Christ and doing the will of our Heavenly Father as JESUS preached for us to do.
 
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AnandaHya

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for example Fasting what do you think God's acceptable fast is? Its in the Bible but most people believe the lies of the world, I wonder if you will catch it.
 

zone

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thanks for the website. may all glory be to God and no forces of darkness are able to stand against His awesome power. FOr HE has already won through HIS work on Calvary, we just have to remind people of it.

We work until Jesus comes again and defeats all darkness or calls us home.

YouTube - "We Will Stand" By Russ Taff

Zone, you need to realize that long list... some of it is Bible based, you would through the baby out with the bath water. the list is not necessarily A will lead to B. Your thoughts are too linear and the Bible talks about spiritual warfare, you can't mix it all together: the lies with the truth and expect anyone to take you seriously. Christian pirate radio is at least more discriminating and actually intelligentically anyalzes what is presented before them.

Just as natural selection is not social Darwinism. Spiritual warfare is not Latter Rain. Perhaps you should study the differences?

Natural selection basically states that the animals physical charisteristic help them live and reporoduce because predators don't eat them (simple, easy and you could add, its because God made them that way)

Social Darwinism: is when the apply the above theory to justify why HUMANS should be allowed to live or die (perverted and not true)

Spiritual warfare takes about the weapons God gave us to defend ourselves (Bible based)

Later Rain is using Social Darwinism and spiritual warfare to pervert God's gifts and make THEMSELVES better or equal to God (perverted and not true)

any questions?
you have nothing to teach me except that these heretical doctrines abound.

and i see no shame whatsoever.

if you hadn't been digging around looking for dirt on me you wouldn't have found Chris Rosebrough's podcast.

people with integrity admit when they've been deceived or deceiving.

others try to distance themselves from it without accepting responsibility....now you'll flutter about denying you had any other beliefs.

however: what will you do about all the people you have taught occult doctrines to? (and continue to do so)?
 

zone

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OK then you and Zone can answer simply what do we do with our lives then?

If we see injustice done, how are we to deal with it? "signs and wonders" are in my opinion just misunderstood science just as many "miracles" that were performed before are also now proven to be just scientific advances that humanity does not understand.

I think you misunderstand the language used. I could use scientific terms instead of religious ones if you prefer but to me they are the same. Knowledge can be used by both sides and there is a spiritual war going on for the minds and souls of humanity.

if you ignore the world and evil around you, it doesn't make it go away. God calls us to DO something about it not just wait around and die.

Evil is allowed to exist in the world when good people seat back and do nothing. Jesus won but why is there still injustice in the world? what does Jesus tells us to do about it?

Our salvation is assured but does that mean we are to do nothing? faith without works is dead and people who let others suffer and justify it is what Paul talked about "using grace to cover vice"
the kind of "religion" practiced by this crowd ENHANCES demonic power. that's the PURPOSE.

entertaining familiar spirits. no wonder they are tormented and preaching fear and darkness.
 

zone

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We are saved by grace through faith ........ for any hairsplitters that might look for a crack. This has been said often enough that I trust there are none :)
but unclefester, can't we be just a LITTLE bit righteous:rolleyes:?