RE: Polygamy -- continuation of older thread.

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Re: Polygamy -- continuation of older thread.

DanD said:
Well, my wife has experienced plenty of jealousy over the course of our 15 year marriage, and there is no other woman in the marriage, so I don't see that as a negative that I don't already face, but only an act of the sinful nature. My investigation into polygamy is somewhat recent, and only after multiple instances of her telling me that I should marry someone else. If I had not read Joshua Harris' book on Kissing Dating Goodbye, I honestly would have never married my wife. We all make mistakes, but rather than putting her away after much long-suffering, I have remained faithful to her, and will continue to do so until death separates us. If it is God's will to bless me and my wife with a second wife, He will eventually open her eyes to the truth.
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God is a jealous God, but you see jealousy as sin? Your wife wishing to protect herself from the hurt of having you reject her to pursue other women is something you can now present as a blessing unto her should you actually bring another woman into your marriage bed? Will you force her to accept it were it to come to that? How long have you been looking for another woman to bed? You do not present the truth of the matter, so she should not be listening to you if it is truth you wish her to accept.
 
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kaylagrl said:
He is in over his head in his own marriage. Adding another person will make everything worse. He probably wont find that out until its too late.
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Yes, and with two women(you and Magenta) in agreement with that, you would think the man Dan would be convinced that such would make everything worse.
Just the case of Sarah getting angry at Abraham and Hagar, is convincing enough, yet Sarah was the one who proposed the matter to Abraham!
 
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Magenta said:
God is a jealous God, but you see jealousy as sin? Your wife wishing to protect herself from the hurt of having you reject her to pursue other women is something you can now present as a blessing unto her should you actually bring another woman into your marriage bed? Will you force her to accept it were it to come to that? How long have you been looking for another woman to bed? You do not present the truth of the matter, so she should not be listening to you if it is truth you wish her to accept.
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Husbands (possibly some wives) who would introduce a third into the relationship, are not in a godly relationship with their spouses. They do not know about Christ and the church. They do not know the love of God. If they did, they would feel sickened by the thought of a third one in the relationship. It's morbid. Distortion of truth. It's like accepting a disease into the body.

 
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Dan, I see you are still here, browsing this thread.
Don't get hooked on "Bible doesn't say polygamy is sin."
Instead, focus on what the bible does say.
As for the topic at hand, the bible says, One man/husband and One woman/wife = One Flesh.
If you get hooked on "Bible doesn't say polygamy is sin" with your state of mind in your relationship, you will begin to work to distort the truth. You will find for yourself a fake license, one you've created by twisting and bending scriptures, to marry another woman while married to your wife.
 
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Well Dan it seems the conversation has dried up. You had answered me very quickly before. Do you have any thoughts on my last post to you?
 
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I guess I put a stop to the party. I wish the OP the best in the future. I think you would do well to find help for your marriage. Deep down you know this is the issue,not polygamy. If you cannot keep one marriage together you will not be able to handle another wife. It takes two to put a marriage in a ditch.Until you find out what the deeper issue you is you will be miserable. I hope you consider what Im saying.
 
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kaylagrl said:
Well Dan it seems the conversation has dried up. You had answered me very quickly before. Do you have any thoughts on my last post to you?
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And Dan, as you read that, look at that lil dog. Oh so cute! Those eyes just waiting for a response.
Just lying there...

DAN!
 
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TraySir said:
And Dan, as you read that, look at that lil dog. Oh so cute! Those eyes just waiting for a response.
Just lying there...

DAN!
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​Her looks are deceiving,she can be quite a handful. She can pin my German Shepard ;)
Im not really expecting a response. I think I put the biggest wrench in his argument and his silence proves that he knows Im right. He needs to fix his marriage before he considers any other option. Perhaps he's embarrassed,I dont know. But I hope he looks for a real solution. Polygamy isn't it.
 
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Magenta said:
God is a jealous God, but you see jealousy as sin? Your wife wishing to protect herself from the hurt of having you reject her to pursue other women is something you can now present as a blessing unto her should you actually bring another woman into your marriage bed? Will you force her to accept it were it to come to that? How long have you been looking for another woman to bed? You do not present the truth of the matter, so she should not be listening to you if it is truth you wish her to accept.
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I will never reject my wife. Paul listed jealousy as one of the acts of the sinful nature in Galatians 5. Clearly only a godly jealousy is acceptable, not the jealousy of a wife who is not threatened in any way by abandonment. I have already stated that I will not force my wife to accept polygamy. Only God can open her eyes to see the beauty of what He has planned. I have been open and honest with her in this matter, and you have yet to demonstrate at any point where I have been untruthful.
 
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kaylagrl said:
​Her looks are deceiving,she can be quite a handful. She can pin my German Shepard ;)
Im not really expecting a response. I think I put the biggest wrench in his argument and his silence proves that he knows Im right. He needs to fix his marriage before he considers any other option. Perhaps he's embarrassed,I dont know. But I hope he looks for a real solution. Polygamy isn't it.
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I have been busy. I have not even seen your response.
 
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DanD said:
I will never reject my wife. Paul listed jealousy as one of the acts of the sinful nature in Galatians 5. Clearly only a godly jealousy is acceptable, not the jealousy of a wife who is not threatened in any way by abandonment. I have already stated that I will not force my wife to accept polygamy. Only God can open her eyes to see the beauty of what He has planned. I have been open and honest with her in this matter, and you have yet to demonstrate at any point where I have been untruthful.
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So....

You started this as a "discussion" on polygamy, stating you just wanted to discuss it, but you were NOT FOR IT.

And now you're ADMITTING that you ARE in favor of polygamy, and you've talked to your wife about it, and she REFUSES TO GO ALONG WITH IT?

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Fun fun.
 
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kaylagrl said:
I guess I put a stop to the party. I wish the OP the best in the future. I think you would do well to find help for your marriage. Deep down you know this is the issue,not polygamy. If you cannot keep one marriage together you will not be able to handle another wife. It takes two to put a marriage in a ditch.Until you find out what the deeper issue you is you will be miserable. I hope you consider what Im saying.
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My work put a temporary stop to the party. Don't flatter yourself. I have already told my wife I would be willing to go for counseling, even with someone predisposed against polygamy, provided we get a second opinion from someone who is neutral on the topic. That is more than fair! You think you can shout me down, by ganging up like a pack of wolves.
 
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maxwel said:
So....

You started this as a "discussion" on polygamy, stating you just wanted to discuss it, but you were NOT FOR IT.

And now you're ADMITTING that you ARE in favor of polygamy, and you've talked to your wife about it, and she REFUSES TO GO ALONG WITH IT?

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Fun fun.
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I did not start the topic. I resurrected an old topic and the administrators were not happy about it, so I continued it over here. I don't claim to be for polygamy, because that would imply that I think everyone should practice it, which I do not. I only claim to not be against it, and I do believe it would be good for me and my family for reasons I do not need to share with you.
 
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TraySir said:
Dan, I see you are still here, browsing this thread.
Don't get hooked on "Bible doesn't say polygamy is sin."
Instead, focus on what the bible does say.
As for the topic at hand, the bible says, One man/husband and One woman/wife = One Flesh.
If you get hooked on "Bible doesn't say polygamy is sin" with your state of mind in your relationship, you will begin to work to distort the truth. You will find for yourself a fake license, one you've created by twisting and bending scriptures, to marry another woman while married to your wife.
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If as so many have here, people want to claim that polygamy is sin, that is a distortion of the truth. I have not distorted twisted or bent any Scripture, but I have seen more than my share of that from those of you opposed to polygamy. Not only that, but I have pointed out numerous logical fallacies used to distort Scripture. How do you respond to that? Silence!
 
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TraySir said:
Husbands (possibly some wives) who would introduce a third into the relationship, are not in a godly relationship with their spouses. They do not know about Christ and the church. They do not know the love of God. If they did, they would feel sickened by the thought of a third one in the relationship. It's morbid. Distortion of truth. It's like accepting a disease into the body.

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Full of presumptions, are we! Do I detect circular reasoning as well? Why don't you throw in a "No True Scottsman" fallacy, while you are at it?

Point out one place where I have distorted the truth! I can point to numerous places where others here have done so.
 
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DanD said:
I did not start the topic. I resurrected an old topic and the administrators were not happy about it, so I continued it over here. I don't claim to be for polygamy, because that would imply that I think everyone should practice it, which I do not. I only claim to not be against it, and I do believe it would be good for me and my family for reasons I do not need to share with you.
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Of course you do.

Having a harem is awesome.



I can't believe this is even a real discussion.
 
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TraySir said:
Yes, and with two women(you and Magenta) in agreement with that, you would think the man Dan would be convinced that such would make everything worse.
Just the case of Sarah getting angry at Abraham and Hagar, is convincing enough, yet Sarah was the one who proposed the matter to Abraham!
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It would take a special woman to become my second wife. I don't really think Magenta or Kaylagrl fit the description, especially Magenta! I get enough snide comments from my own wife.
 
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maxwel said:
Of course you do.

Having a harem is awesome.



I can't believe this is even a real discussion.
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I sense a tongue in cheek on that remark.
 
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DanD said:
It would take a special woman to become my second wife. I don't really think Magenta or Kaylagrl fit the description, especially Magenta! I get enough snide comments from my own wife.
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If you weren't trying to convince your wife you need a harem,
and you should be allowed to have sex with other women...

the snide comments would probably end.
 
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TraySir said:
God's already spoken on the matter. One man and One woman.
When she "opens her eyes" be careful, they may be opened to YOUR own fleshly desires and not to the will of the Lord. Hope and pray, your wife keeps her eyes open to the truth and only to the truth.
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I have been praying that she would open her eyes to the truth. You should open your eyes as well.
 
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