Read the Bible Through -- Can we? Finally?

[Depleted]

I know that some psalms contain prophecies about Christ. But its like 15 out of 150.

Also, many books are not quoted at all, in the NT, I think its about 10. Also, many books are not prophetic at all, like Chronicles (sorry, I used the term "Paralipomenon" for them), Ester, Ruth etc.

What specifically (give me few examples, pls) I would lack in knowing Christ, reading only the NT?

Go for it. Prove only 15 Psalms are prophetic. Better yet, read them and assume they're all about God. Then you'll see quite a bit more prophecy than merely 15. I can think of one that might not have any.

(And nuts! Google told me Para-etc. was a book from the Apocrypha. lol)

 

[Depleted]

I have read English Bibles over 50 times. Twice in French, and some of the NT in Hebrew and most of the OT in Greek. I am also starting to read the Bible in German, but only a few chapters so far.

My suggestion is to get a plan and keep track! Whether it is an internet plan, or a piece of paper you check daily, or a plan on paper you check off as you read it, keep it close and do it!

I used to read 3 chapters of the OT a day, plus one of the NT. Then I added a Psalm a day. Now, I read 3 chapters of the NT in English, not counting a chapter a day in Greek (more or less! The really long chapters I divide up!)

But the 3 OT + 1 NT gets you through the whole Bible in a year. Another good plan my husband and I have followed (and he still uses) is Read the Bible for Life. It is in chronological order, which I found to be an interesting read. Here is a link:

Read the Bible for Life

One thing is to buy and read a book about the Bible. Something that explains genre and historical background. George Guthrie’s book “Read the Bible for Life” is a good simplistic introduction. “Read the Bible for All Its Worth” by Gordon Fee, is an excellent and slightly more advanced level of Bible introduction. I’ve literally never seen an introductory Bible course that didn’t recommend the second one.

The other thing I would recommend, is do not stop, because you are bogged down. Things like the begats in 1 Chronicles go on forever. A good study Bible (I am currently using HCSB, but ESV also had good footnotes), can help explain the reasons things go back and forth, and why the geneologies are so important. I understand in Hebrew, all the names mean something, and it does not come through in English.

A lot of people get bogged down in Leviticus. Well, keep reading, and remember that the laws were written to the Levitcal priests, and yes, God did have reasons for them. There are general principles you can pull out of Leviticus, but maybe a first time read through is not the time to do it?

Another thing that helps me is to underline passages that stand out. If something really speaks to me, I write it out in a journal, and explain what it means to me. Sometimes I memorize the passage. This helps just reading, become a devotional!

Read the Bible in modern English! Then, you will not get bogged down in trying to figure out the meanings of the words in an archaic form of English! ESV, NIV, HCSB, NET are some good, more formal translations. (Some may not want to include, NIV, I realize!) Read in a language you understand, instead of something flowery, that doesn’t make as much sense!

I was going to start something like this, glad you did first!

I'm a little disappointed in you. You read it in English every day? And I was sure you were reading it in German now. lol

 

[Angela53510]

OK, The Old Testament I have in print has about 2400 pages (because there are also variant readings to some books), the New Testament has about 600.

If I want to invest my short free time into studying Scriptures and if I will not prefer the New Testament, I will end up spending most of my time in the old one, logically. Which is not a good thing, I think.

I must prefer the New Testament 4x more, if I want to spend the same time in both testaments. And I do not, I want to spend more time in the current testament, that means I must prefer reading/studying the new one even more.

That means I simply cannot read every verse in the OT as many times as every verse in the NT. I have read some OT books in the past and never returned to them again. Why? Because I have more important Scriptures to read.

Trofimus, without the OT, you have lost the “BIG PICTURE” of the Bible. All the OT is important. There is always something wonderful to be gleaned reading the OT. This really is a case of “if it was good enough for Jesus and the apostles, it is good enough for me.”

For a first read through, or even 20th, the whole Bible is important. But, the big reason why I changed from 3 OT and 1 NT was I did feel I wasn’t getting enough NT. So, now, reading 3 NT a day, I read the NT three times a year. Plus, the context is much better, seeing the chapters together.

Even when I worked full time, was active in church, had 4 small children, then involved in sports and music, I still always found time to read 3 OT and 1 NT. Now that I am retired, I have more time, so adding chapters was not hard.

The other thing is the more you read and study the Bible, the easier it becomes to read. The prophets used to be so hard for me. I don’t know why, but all the metaphors were hard to understand. Even studying each book in seminary in a survey course, didn’t seem to help in the difficulty. But, the last few years, Isaiah and Jeremiah have become very interesting. I have to wonder why I found them hard.

Then there is Ezekiel! Even my study Bible admonishes that it is “difficult to understand.” And not to take it literally, and keep reading it. I think perhaps one day, if I can read Ezekiel easily, I will have finally made it as a Bible scholar! How likely is that to happen? Maybe this year? We shall see!

 

[Laish]

I just wrote here on CC:

"Honesty time for me: I am completely undisciplined when it comes to reading the Bible, partially because I am very undisciplined in all other phases of life. But regarding the Bible, making that worse is the fact that I have (diagnosed) reading problems. Mix these together, and although I have been a believer for 53 years and 5 months, I have never read the Bible through. Every year, as the Gregorian new year approaches, I think about reading it through, and I've started many times, but I've never done it. . . .

"This is frustrating."

So here we are -- 2018 nipping at our heels. And I am thinking about trying again. Thinking about which Bibles to use, to help me stay focused. . . .
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Do you want to do this?
What is holding you back?
Have you thought of solutions?
What will help you to do this?


For those of you who have read the Bible through:
How many times have you read the Bible through?
Do you have any suggestions for those who have not?
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Do you have any encouragement (not criticism!!) for us?

Hello Beez
I will give ya my two cents , and try to answer your questions.
First wich Bible translation to use is important. For you first time thru I suggest one you can read without difficulty. The ESV ,and ,NKJV are cool . Reading one that you understand will help keep you on course .

As for do I want to do this ? Yea I love reading the scriptures. I will add that I don’t set a time to finish a front to back reading of the Bible though . The NT I do around twice a year . The OT in Two years . I set Times for both in my day . Reason is I read mostly reference Bibles and enjoy reading the references. You don’t have to do that though . Read at your pace ,but I do suggest you read both at different times of the day instead of a simple front to back reading. That too can help break up things to keep it interesting for you .

What holds me back ? nothing holds be back except life (not enough time on the clock lol ). So if I don’t have much time I read at least one chapter no matter what .

Have I thought of solutions yea if you have five minutes read at least one chapter. It’s about reading God’s written Word ,and forward progress not a time schedule. Eventualy I believe you will find your self having more time to read .

What will help is prayer before ,and reading and setting up at least 15 minuets a day .

How many time have I read the Bible NT I lost count. OT front to back not including Book studies around 10 .
That’s about it sense I was saved 14 years ago.

Sugestions for those that have not . Read above . I will suggest always read at least one chapter a day. The schedule is secondary. It is not about keeping on schedule. If you are racing thru the Bible because you want to stay on schedule you may miss something.

Do you have words of encouragement? Yea in my opinion schedules are are over rated. Progress is what you need to measure.
Reading the Bible is your goal not doing it in a certain time frame . Once you get in the habit of reading each day you will discover more and more time will fall in your lap for reading.
I hope that helps Beez
Blessings
Bill

 

[tourist]

I've read the entire bible 3 times and currently on my 4th. This is the first time that I am reading it cover to cover. I read 2 or 3 chapters a day, depending on length or complexity. Started this current project in Sept 2016 and will finish next year around the beginning of summer. Often, if though a might read a passage many times previously it's like I'm reading it for the first time. Tomorrow I will be reading the last chapter of Daniel.

 

[Depleted]

Yeah, I have load myself with too many things, I know that and I am trying to clean and to simplify my life, it will take few months to end all my commitments. And when I have a time, I have no energy left for a long reading.

But! Do you have any specific example what will I miss when I will read the New Testament only?

You missed some of my favorite people. They're really quite funny without trying to be. Adam with his, "She made me do it God, so it's your fault." Moses and his old, "don't make me do this, Lord. I can't talk good." Abram and Sari having a good laugh over the possibility of having a baby at their age, and then deciding to step up God's plan. God choosing Jacob the con-artist, over Esau, the easy-going guy. Jonah. Jonah! How can anyone not like Jonah? (He's whiney, just like me. lol)

You're missing the good what-for God gave Job. Wow! I mean when you read God's answer it blows you away.

And then there is family-guy -- Hosea. Here's a man God calls out to become a prophet, and what's God tell him to do first? Marry a whore! And then raise up kids doomed to not be God's favorite. It really sounds like God didn't like Hosea. And he certainly wasn't liking the Israelites at that time, and yet, Hosea was like God. He married a whore. God took us as his mate and raised up some uniquely awfully-named kids, all to prove the deep love he has for us even while we're cheating on him. Hosea truly loved his wife. God truly loves us.

So much good stuff.

Oh! Oh, oh, oh! And you should check out the law on slavery! I became disabled. My husband became disabled. Because of that we're stuck accepting whatever the US government chooses to give us like beggars. The slave laws God wrote? We could have been useful members to our family!

So much good stuff you're missing.

 

[Depleted]

Augustine stole it from George Whitefield.

Teleported into the future? lol

 

[Angela53510]

Trofimus, I highly recommend all the psalms, and all the time. When I was depressed and far from God, turned my face to the wall, did not read the Bible for 2 years, or go to church or even pray, because of sickness, pain and discouragement from Word Faith people, God told me to read 5 Psalms a day.

So, I did - for 2 years! That is all 150 Psalms every month! It was fabulous! I learned about God’s people who were hurting and broken, but they praised God anyway! I read the history of Israel embedded in various Psalms. I heard about the importance of the Word, the law, precepts, the Torah! I learned to praise God for everything!

I would not be the person I am today, without the influence of the psalms. They are real, and Jesus is there in every one of them, not just the prophetic ones!

In fact, I find Jesus all throughout the OT. I do hope you will realize how much you are missing by not reading consistently through ALL the OT.

 

[Angela53510]

I'm a little disappointed in you. You read it in English every day? And I was sure you were reading it in German now. lol

Perhaps you didn’t see I AM reading it in German? I have an excerpt book - it also does translating of the harder words, plus a Q & A at the end of each excerpt.

What is holding me back from reading straight through is two fold. I need more German vocabulary. And I need to know which is the best modern translation. I asked my professor, who said she attended “nun prison school” growing up, and she obviously has no clue about anything to do with the Bible. Hmm! I might add that to that Catholic thread that is happening in the forum right now. (No emphasis on reading the Bible!)

And yes, I still like to read the Bible in English. Nothing like the “heart” language to speak to... well, your heart!

 

[maxwel]

I know that some psalms contain prophecies about Christ. But its like 15 out of 150.

Also, many books are not quoted at all, in the NT, I think its about 10. Also, many books are not prophetic at all, like Chronicles (sorry, I used the term "Paralipomenon" for them), Ester, Ruth etc.

What specifically (give me few examples, pls) I would lack in knowing Christ, reading only the NT?

Problems with the position that all knowledge of Christ is contained in the NT.



1. You originally started with the position that the OT only contained virtually useless information for the Christian life - this was due to it's being outdated, impractical, applying only to Israel, or containing no UNIQUE information which was not replicated in the NT.

You have since ABANDONED that broad position, and moved to defend a much narrower position.

I'm not referring to your change in position to be derogatory, but rather to point out that you're a very intelligent person, and you can tell when a particular position isn't defensible. I appreciate and respect you being rational and reasonable.


2. You are now taking the narrower position that:
you would not lack ANY knowledge of Christ by reading only the NT.

I think we'll also find this is an untenable position.


A. The Bible states very clearly that the OT prophets and writers are the VERY FOUNDATION OF OUR FAITH... therefore not only is it absurd to discount them, but it's also IMPOSSIBLE to discount them,
as you can't build a thing upon a foundation without first having the foundation.

Eph 2:19 Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God;
Eph 2:20 And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone;

The Bible states, clearly, that the OT prophets and writers are the foundation of our faith;
they aren't irrelevant, they aren't unnecessary, they are THE VERY FOUNDATION.


B. You appear to contradict your own position right in the very post where you state it.

1. You admit there are prophecies about Christ in the Psalms.

2. This contradicts your position that there isn't any additional information about Christ in the OT.

3. Even if you make the claim each of these prophecies you're referring to is quoted in the NT, it doesn't solve the problem.
a) It leaves us with surrounding verses dealing with Christ which are not quoted in the NT.
b) it leaves us with a great deal of contextual information which is not quoted in the NT
c) it leaves us with other prophetic verses which are not quoted in the NT

* a and b alone are more than enough to refute your position, and show you contradicted your own position.


C. Here are a list of over 350 Prophecies of Christ in the OT - if you actually LOOK AT EACH OF THEM, you'll see that although they are FULFILLED in the NT, they are not all QUOTED or EXPLAINED in the NT... so without the OT you simply wouldn't have any understanding that many of these are fulfilled prophecy.

AccordingtotheScriptures.org :: 353 Prophecies Fulfilled in Jesus Christ




Conclusion


In points A, B, and C I show:
- you appear to contradict (and thus refute) your own position, in your own words
- the OT is the very foundation of your faith, without which you could therefore have no faith
- there are many specific prophecies which are ONLY understood by studying the OT

I think you're very intelligent, and very insightful, but this particular position doesn't seem tenable in light of more investigation; therefore this would probably be a good time to reconsider your position.

I rethink my positions all the time... no harm in that.

My apologies if my posts were too argumentative or emotional; sometimes I get worked up and I'm not as polite and gracious as I should be.

 

[trofimus]

Go for it. Prove only 15 Psalms are prophetic. Better yet, read them and assume they're all about God. Then you'll see quite a bit more prophecy than merely 15. I can think of one that might not have any.

(And nuts! Google told me Para-etc. was a book from the Apocrypha. lol)

Its quite impossible to prove that something is not. One should prove positive things, i.e. that many more psalms are about Christ

"Paralipomenon, a Greek name for the Old Testament Books of Chronicles" (wiki). We use this term in my language too and its also in Latin vulgate, so I thought its international... well, apparently not

 

[oldethennew]

for those who are led to 'read' in the way that our Father leads them, be blessed,
for there is always much more to come, whether we learn Hebrew, Greek, or what ever
language Jesus has in store for us to learn, what ever He wants in His own particular way,
for our own particular lives...it's all a Holy Blessing, when our hearts have been seared and called
to learn His ways...

yes, the pages of prophecy unfold, and the golden oil splashed the vellum, a type of writing,
natural and ancient...always be open when Jesus visits your seeking, precious hearts...

if you are still not understanding, then you are standing on fallow ground...

 

[Beez]

4 chapters per day, and you'll have read your Bible through in one year! This would only take you less than 15 minutes per day. Just think how much you read on here? Read Scripture too, and have an open mind.

I think it is good that after 53 years you again desire to do so. One thing, please remain teachable, and correctible; 2 Timothy 3:16-17, 2 Timothy 4:1-5. Please read the passages and accept them.

Do not take this as harsh, please consider what I say:

First, you have attempted to do away with all criticism from others by asking for no one to use criticism. Sister, such is not healthy! You must accept this. Please understand. We must all accept criticism.

Criticism is good, not bad, and critical thinking is good, not bad.

Don't put so much weight on the teachings of your sect which appears to be law keeping in focus (or something) a sect that only ministers to its members, none outside may view teachings online unless members (according to you and what you said to me).

Please dear sister, think that through! If they are preaching the true Gospel, then why does this need to be so secretive, and hidden away from non members? It is apparent to me as to why. I pray God to open your eyes to this, dear sister! Yes, I am concerned and it is a valid concern! Note Paul's prayer in Ephesians 1:15ff. I want this to come true with you.

Sister, you cannot have and hold to 2 Timothy 2:15 (read it and understand it and how important this is) until you've grasped and read the balance of Scripture, time and again. Think about this: You are secluded to a sect that does not want its teachings exposed to others outside, again, you've told me this, that no one can view their teachings unless they are members. Tell me of any true Christian group that does not want its true teachings out in the open. Some who do this secret thing are JW's, Mormons, Hebrew Roots, Black Hebrew Israelites, some Christadelphians and others. No orthodox true Gospel preaching church has ever hidden their teachings to only its members. Think about that. We are to proclaim our teachings to all unashamedly and without secrecy! The Gospel ministry is not a covert operation!

Also, please accept and listen to what others outside your group share with you that may and will go against your doctrine. Angela53510, Laish, dcontroversal, SovereignGrace, Iconoclast, Depleted, phil36, sparkman, TruthTalk, eternally_gratefull, Grandpa, trofimus, BillG and some others here can help you understand and learn.

Sister, I am saying this in love. And please do read your Bible. Drop what you are doing, read 4 chapters per day.

Here is what I do: I put a bookmark in Genesis, then one in Psalms, then another one in Matthew. I read a little of Genesis, then some of Psalms, then some Matthew and move each bookmark along as I read. When my bookmark in Genesis ends up in Psalms, and when the one in Psalms ends up in Matthew, and the one in Matthew ends up at the end of Revelation you'll have read through the Bible! Then repeat it, do it again. Also, you can add ribbons to your Bible to do this, for a total of 3 ribbons.

And yes, I have read the Bible many times through, and still do now, twice per year at least. I only say this because you have asked.

Please dear sister, consider and do what I am pleading with you here on. It is out of love and concern, and it is a valid concern!

I want to respondagain to your post to me. I could have done that privately, but all this playedout publicly, so I decided leave my answer public.
I want you toknow that I now realize that if you had written your warnings to someone else, whosecircumstances I did not know, I would have been sitting here quietly applaudingyou. Therefore, I want to write that I am sorry about my terse answers. Theywere impatient and rude.

The only part of the post that I read was what I answered. Please forgive me. Iwill copy this post into another program that will make it easier to read and Iwill read it later.
Please forgive mefor my bad attitude. I am both convicted for it and truly sorry.

I think you wrote out of concern for me, and that is terribly sweet. I thank you. I want you to know that I am safe; I am all right. I'm an old woman, I've already been in many (uh . . . ) interesting circumstances, and seriously, I know what I'm doing. I don't want you to worry -- okay?

Again, thank you. You are a lot nicer than I gave you credit for being. Bless you.

 

[Depleted]

Its quite impossible to prove that something is not. One should prove positive things, i.e. that many more psalms are about Christ

"Paralipomenon, a Greek name for the Old Testament Books of Chronicles" (wiki). We use this term in my language too and its also in Latin vulgate, so I thought its international... well, apparently not

I know "not" is impossible to prove, however you didn't say "not." You said "15 Psalms." I'm daring you to read the Psalms and pick out just 15. It will be hard, because you'll find yourself rejecting some to do it. Whiccchhhh shows it's not merely 15. lol

BTW, very impressed you can write out that very long word and spell it correctly every time.

 

[Ezekiel8]

For those of you who have read the Bible through:
How many times have you read the Bible through?
Do you have any suggestions for those who have not?
Do you have any encouragement (not criticism!!) for us?

I have read it cover-to-cover (and that itself is a good suggestion)

I have thought many suggestions when reading this topic earlier today, but I think I will just give you one.

My best suggestion that enabled me to read the Bible cover-to-cover (twice and now on my third time), is somewhat unorthodox. A lot of people recommend a plan, but I recommend to read it at your own leisure. Read it at your own pace. I think you will get a lot more out of it that way. I think if you try to force yourself into it, you will not get as much out of it, and you might wear yourself out pretty quickly. It shouldn't feel like a job to read the Bible, you should get some enjoyment out of reading the Bible, just as with other books.

I could be wrong, some people do need a lil structure I guess to keep motivated, but if you do try a plan, don't get discouraged if you lapse and fall off the plan, just take it back up at your own pace. It might take you over a year to read it, but you will at least read it and understand a good bit of it too.

 

[posthuman]

it is generally harder to prove uniqueness than existence, because existence only needs one example, and uniqueness needs to rule out all other examples. it's not always impossible to prove; it may or may not be true.

i found this list:

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[TD="class: tinyone border white center slatebg, bgcolor: #3366AA, colspan: 2, align: center"]Messianic Psalms Quoted in the New Testament[/TD]
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[TD="class: tinyone border lgraybg padded, bgcolor: #DDDDDD"]Psalms 2:1-2[/TD]
[TD="class: tinyone border sandybg padded, bgcolor: #FFFFBB"]Acts 4:25-28[/TD]
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[TD="class: tinyone border lgraybg padded, bgcolor: #DDDDDD"]Psalms 2:7[/TD]
[TD="class: tinyone border sandybg padded, bgcolor: #FFFFBB"]Acts 13:33, Hebrews 1:5, Hebrews 5:5[/TD]
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[TD="class: tinyone border lgraybg padded, bgcolor: #DDDDDD"]Psalms 2:9[/TD]
[TD="class: tinyone border sandybg padded, bgcolor: #FFFFBB"]Revelation 2:26-27, Revelation 12:5, Revelation 19:15[/TD]
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[TD="class: tinyone border lgraybg padded, bgcolor: #DDDDDD"]Psalms 8:2[/TD]
[TD="class: tinyone border sandybg padded, bgcolor: #FFFFBB"]Matthew 21:16[/TD]
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[TD="class: tinyone border lgraybg padded, bgcolor: #DDDDDD"]Psalms 8:4-6[/TD]
[TD="class: tinyone border sandybg padded, bgcolor: #FFFFBB"]1Corinthians 15:25-28, Hebrews 2:5-10[/TD]
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[TR]
[TD="class: tinyone border lgraybg padded, bgcolor: #DDDDDD"]Psalms 16:8-11[/TD]
[TD="class: tinyone border sandybg padded, bgcolor: #FFFFBB"]Acts 2:25-32, Acts 13:34-37[/TD]
[/TR]
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[TD="class: tinyone border lgraybg padded, bgcolor: #DDDDDD"]Psalms 22:1[/TD]
[TD="class: tinyone border sandybg padded, bgcolor: #FFFFBB"]Matthew 27:46, Mark 15:34[/TD]
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[TD="class: tinyone border lgraybg padded, bgcolor: #DDDDDD"]Psalms 22:7-8[/TD]
[TD="class: tinyone border sandybg padded, bgcolor: #FFFFBB"]Matthew 27:39,43, Luke 23:35[/TD]
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[TD="class: tinyone border lgraybg padded, bgcolor: #DDDDDD"]Psalms 22:18[/TD]
[TD="class: tinyone border sandybg padded, bgcolor: #FFFFBB"]Matthew 27:35, Mark 15:24, Luke 23:34, John 19:23-24[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: tinyone border lgraybg padded, bgcolor: #DDDDDD"]Psalms 22:22[/TD]
[TD="class: tinyone border sandybg padded, bgcolor: #FFFFBB"]Hebrews 2:11-12[/TD]
[/TR]
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[TD="class: tinyone border lgraybg padded, bgcolor: #DDDDDD"]Psalms 40:6-8[/TD]
[TD="class: tinyone border sandybg padded, bgcolor: #FFFFBB"]Hebrews 10:5-10[/TD]
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[TR]
[TD="class: tinyone border lgraybg padded, bgcolor: #DDDDDD"]Psalms 41:9[/TD]
[TD="class: tinyone border sandybg padded, bgcolor: #FFFFBB"]John 13:18[/TD]
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[TR]
[TD="class: tinyone border lgraybg padded, bgcolor: #DDDDDD"]Psalms 45:6-7[/TD]
[TD="class: tinyone border sandybg padded, bgcolor: #FFFFBB"]Hebrews 1:8-9[/TD]
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[TR]
[TD="class: tinyone border lgraybg padded, bgcolor: #DDDDDD"]Psalms 68:18[/TD]
[TD="class: tinyone border sandybg padded, bgcolor: #FFFFBB"]Ephesians :8[/TD]
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[TD="class: tinyone border lgraybg padded, bgcolor: #DDDDDD"]Psalms 69:4[/TD]
[TD="class: tinyone border sandybg padded, bgcolor: #FFFFBB"]John 15:25[/TD]
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[TR]
[TD="class: tinyone border lgraybg padded, bgcolor: #DDDDDD"]Psalms 69:9[/TD]
[TD="class: tinyone border sandybg padded, bgcolor: #FFFFBB"]John 2:17, Romans 15:3[/TD]
[/TR]
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[TD="class: tinyone border lgraybg padded, bgcolor: #DDDDDD"]Psalms 69:21[/TD]
[TD="class: tinyone border sandybg padded, bgcolor: #FFFFBB"]Matthew 27:34, John 19:28-29[/TD]
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[TD="class: tinyone border lgraybg padded, bgcolor: #DDDDDD"]Psalms 69:22-23[/TD]
[TD="class: tinyone border sandybg padded, bgcolor: #FFFFBB"]Romans 11:9-10[/TD]
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[TD="class: tinyone border lgraybg padded, bgcolor: #DDDDDD"]Psalms 69:25[/TD]
[TD="class: tinyone border sandybg padded, bgcolor: #FFFFBB"]Acts 1:20[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: tinyone border lgraybg padded, bgcolor: #DDDDDD"]Psalms 78:2[/TD]
[TD="class: tinyone border sandybg padded, bgcolor: #FFFFBB"]Matthew 13:35[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: tinyone border lgraybg padded, bgcolor: #DDDDDD"]Psalms 78:24[/TD]
[TD="class: tinyone border sandybg padded, bgcolor: #FFFFBB"]John 6:31[/TD]
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[TD="class: tinyone border lgraybg padded, bgcolor: #DDDDDD"]Psalms 97:7[/TD]
[TD="class: tinyone border sandybg padded, bgcolor: #FFFFBB"]Hebrews 1:6[/TD]
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[TD="class: tinyone border lgraybg padded, bgcolor: #DDDDDD"]Psalms 102:25-27[/TD]
[TD="class: tinyone border sandybg padded, bgcolor: #FFFFBB"]Hebrews 1:10-12[/TD]
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[TD="class: tinyone border lgraybg padded, bgcolor: #DDDDDD"]Psalms 110:1[/TD]
[TD="class: tinyone border sandybg padded, bgcolor: #FFFFBB"]Mtt22:44, Mark 12:36, Luke 20:42,
Acts 2:34, Hebrews 1:13[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: tinyone border lgraybg padded, bgcolor: #DDDDDD"]Psalms 110:4[/TD]
[TD="class: tinyone border sandybg padded, bgcolor: #FFFFBB"]Hebrews 5:6, Hebrews 6:20, Heb7:17,21[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: tinyone border lgraybg padded, bgcolor: #DDDDDD"]Psalms 118:6[/TD]
[TD="class: tinyone border sandybg padded, bgcolor: #FFFFBB"]Hebrews 13:6[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: tinyone border lgraybg padded, bgcolor: #DDDDDD"]Psalms 118:22-23[/TD]
[TD="class: tinyone border sandybg padded, bgcolor: #FFFFBB"]Matthew 21:42, Mark 12:10-11, Luke 20:17, Acts 4:11,
Ephesians2:20, 1Peter 2:7[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: tinyone border lgraybg padded, bgcolor: #DDDDDD"]Psalms 118:26[/TD]
[TD="class: tinyone border sandybg padded, bgcolor: #FFFFBB"]Matthew 21:9, Matthew 23:39, Mark 11:9, Luke 13:35,
Luke 19:38, John 12:13[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]


that's around 15 Psalms. here's one that's not on that list though:

Into Your hand I commit my spirit;
You have ransomed me, O Lord, God of truth.
(Psalm 31:5)
​

how many more can we find?
ah! we'll need to read Psalms

 

[trofimus]

Trofimus, I highly recommend all the psalms, and all the time. When I was depressed and far from God, turned my face to the wall, did not read the Bible for 2 years, or go to church or even pray, because of sickness, pain and discouragement from Word Faith people, God told me to read 5 Psalms a day.

So, I did - for 2 years! That is all 150 Psalms every month! It was fabulous! I learned about God’s people who were hurting and broken, but they praised God anyway! I read the history of Israel embedded in various Psalms. I heard about the importance of the Word, the law, precepts, the Torah! I learned to praise God for everything!

I would not be the person I am today, without the influence of the psalms. They are real, and Jesus is there in every one of them, not just the prophetic ones!

In fact, I find Jesus all throughout the OT. I do hope you will realize how much you are missing by not reading consistently through ALL the OT.

I have nothing against readint the OT. The problem is, that the NT has higher priority, its a full revelation, while the OT is in shadows.

So, when I will know the NT perfectly, I can return to reading 2400 pages of Israel history, their faults, wars, figures... but I am afraid, that I will never know the NT perfectly

I can say to myself - hmmm long time not reading about Samson ... ok, but what if I do not understand everything in Romans? What has a priority?

 

[trofimus]

it is generally harder to prove uniqueness than existence, because existence only needs one example, and uniqueness needs to rule out all other examples. it's not always impossible to prove; it may or may not be true.

i found this list:

[TABLE="class: indent, width: 0"]
[TR]
[TD="class: tinyone border white center slatebg, bgcolor: #3366AA, colspan: 2, align: center"]Messianic Psalms Quoted in the New Testament[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: tinyone border lgraybg padded, bgcolor: #DDDDDD"]Psalms 2:1-2[/TD]
[TD="class: tinyone border sandybg padded, bgcolor: #FFFFBB"]Acts 4:25-28[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: tinyone border lgraybg padded, bgcolor: #DDDDDD"]Psalms 2:7[/TD]
[TD="class: tinyone border sandybg padded, bgcolor: #FFFFBB"]Acts 13:33, Hebrews 1:5, Hebrews 5:5[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: tinyone border lgraybg padded, bgcolor: #DDDDDD"]Psalms 2:9[/TD]
[TD="class: tinyone border sandybg padded, bgcolor: #FFFFBB"]Revelation 2:26-27, Revelation 12:5, Revelation 19:15[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: tinyone border lgraybg padded, bgcolor: #DDDDDD"]Psalms 8:2[/TD]
[TD="class: tinyone border sandybg padded, bgcolor: #FFFFBB"]Matthew 21:16[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: tinyone border lgraybg padded, bgcolor: #DDDDDD"]Psalms 8:4-6[/TD]
[TD="class: tinyone border sandybg padded, bgcolor: #FFFFBB"]1Corinthians 15:25-28, Hebrews 2:5-10[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: tinyone border lgraybg padded, bgcolor: #DDDDDD"]Psalms 16:8-11[/TD]
[TD="class: tinyone border sandybg padded, bgcolor: #FFFFBB"]Acts 2:25-32, Acts 13:34-37[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: tinyone border lgraybg padded, bgcolor: #DDDDDD"]Psalms 22:1[/TD]
[TD="class: tinyone border sandybg padded, bgcolor: #FFFFBB"]Matthew 27:46, Mark 15:34[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: tinyone border lgraybg padded, bgcolor: #DDDDDD"]Psalms 22:7-8[/TD]
[TD="class: tinyone border sandybg padded, bgcolor: #FFFFBB"]Matthew 27:39,43, Luke 23:35[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: tinyone border lgraybg padded, bgcolor: #DDDDDD"]Psalms 22:18[/TD]
[TD="class: tinyone border sandybg padded, bgcolor: #FFFFBB"]Matthew 27:35, Mark 15:24, Luke 23:34, John 19:23-24[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: tinyone border lgraybg padded, bgcolor: #DDDDDD"]Psalms 22:22[/TD]
[TD="class: tinyone border sandybg padded, bgcolor: #FFFFBB"]Hebrews 2:11-12[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: tinyone border lgraybg padded, bgcolor: #DDDDDD"]Psalms 40:6-8[/TD]
[TD="class: tinyone border sandybg padded, bgcolor: #FFFFBB"]Hebrews 10:5-10[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: tinyone border lgraybg padded, bgcolor: #DDDDDD"]Psalms 41:9[/TD]
[TD="class: tinyone border sandybg padded, bgcolor: #FFFFBB"]John 13:18[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: tinyone border lgraybg padded, bgcolor: #DDDDDD"]Psalms 45:6-7[/TD]
[TD="class: tinyone border sandybg padded, bgcolor: #FFFFBB"]Hebrews 1:8-9[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: tinyone border lgraybg padded, bgcolor: #DDDDDD"]Psalms 68:18[/TD]
[TD="class: tinyone border sandybg padded, bgcolor: #FFFFBB"]Ephesians :8[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: tinyone border lgraybg padded, bgcolor: #DDDDDD"]Psalms 69:4[/TD]
[TD="class: tinyone border sandybg padded, bgcolor: #FFFFBB"]John 15:25[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: tinyone border lgraybg padded, bgcolor: #DDDDDD"]Psalms 69:9[/TD]
[TD="class: tinyone border sandybg padded, bgcolor: #FFFFBB"]John 2:17, Romans 15:3[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: tinyone border lgraybg padded, bgcolor: #DDDDDD"]Psalms 69:21[/TD]
[TD="class: tinyone border sandybg padded, bgcolor: #FFFFBB"]Matthew 27:34, John 19:28-29[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: tinyone border lgraybg padded, bgcolor: #DDDDDD"]Psalms 69:22-23[/TD]
[TD="class: tinyone border sandybg padded, bgcolor: #FFFFBB"]Romans 11:9-10[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: tinyone border lgraybg padded, bgcolor: #DDDDDD"]Psalms 69:25[/TD]
[TD="class: tinyone border sandybg padded, bgcolor: #FFFFBB"]Acts 1:20[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: tinyone border lgraybg padded, bgcolor: #DDDDDD"]Psalms 78:2[/TD]
[TD="class: tinyone border sandybg padded, bgcolor: #FFFFBB"]Matthew 13:35[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: tinyone border lgraybg padded, bgcolor: #DDDDDD"]Psalms 78:24[/TD]
[TD="class: tinyone border sandybg padded, bgcolor: #FFFFBB"]John 6:31[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: tinyone border lgraybg padded, bgcolor: #DDDDDD"]Psalms 97:7[/TD]
[TD="class: tinyone border sandybg padded, bgcolor: #FFFFBB"]Hebrews 1:6[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: tinyone border lgraybg padded, bgcolor: #DDDDDD"]Psalms 102:25-27[/TD]
[TD="class: tinyone border sandybg padded, bgcolor: #FFFFBB"]Hebrews 1:10-12[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: tinyone border lgraybg padded, bgcolor: #DDDDDD"]Psalms 110:1[/TD]
[TD="class: tinyone border sandybg padded, bgcolor: #FFFFBB"]Mtt22:44, Mark 12:36, Luke 20:42,
Acts 2:34, Hebrews 1:13[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: tinyone border lgraybg padded, bgcolor: #DDDDDD"]Psalms 110:4[/TD]
[TD="class: tinyone border sandybg padded, bgcolor: #FFFFBB"]Hebrews 5:6, Hebrews 6:20, Heb7:17,21[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: tinyone border lgraybg padded, bgcolor: #DDDDDD"]Psalms 118:6[/TD]
[TD="class: tinyone border sandybg padded, bgcolor: #FFFFBB"]Hebrews 13:6[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: tinyone border lgraybg padded, bgcolor: #DDDDDD"]Psalms 118:22-23[/TD]
[TD="class: tinyone border sandybg padded, bgcolor: #FFFFBB"]Matthew 21:42, Mark 12:10-11, Luke 20:17, Acts 4:11,
Ephesians2:20, 1Peter 2:7[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: tinyone border lgraybg padded, bgcolor: #DDDDDD"]Psalms 118:26[/TD]
[TD="class: tinyone border sandybg padded, bgcolor: #FFFFBB"]Matthew 21:9, Matthew 23:39, Mark 11:9, Luke 13:35,
Luke 19:38, John 12:13[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]


that's around 15 Psalms. here's one that's not on that list though:

Into Your hand I commit my spirit;
You have ransomed me, O Lord, God of truth.
(Psalm 31:5)
​

how many more can we find?
ah! we'll need to read Psalms
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Wow, I just made that number up by a guess, I never knew I am such a genius and its 14 instead of 15

 

[trofimus]

how many more can we find?
ah! we'll need to read Psalms

Here is a special one:

"Say among the nations, “The Lord reigns." Ps 96:10

Justin Martyr quotes the psalm as:

“Say among the nations, The Lord reigns from the wood." and claims that Jewish scribes removed the ending.

Its found also in St Augustine's commentary.

Psalm 95(Heb96) The Lord reigns from a Tree ?

 

[Beez]

Just so you'll know, I started my whole-Bible reading yesterday, reading Joshua 1.1 - 1.9 and stopped there, but I did it without the suggested recording. At least I have started.

I've decided to look for the KJV, recorded by Alexander Scourby (sp?), because I don't think he recorded any other. With the way my brain seems to work, I'll listen to the KJV while reading the NASB. I tried that in the past, back when it was on cassette tapes, because it did help keep me focused.

I do have an ESV, but I think I'll just stick to my favorite -- what I am used to. For one reason, because I just bought this fabulous Bible in August this year -- a sweet little Schuyler with few notes, light-weight, easy to carry, with a little space for my notes.

Guess it's time to work on cleaning all my sticky-notes up in it.