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We are not reconciled and justified to remain unbelievers and enemies of God but reconciled to become and live like children of God.
But if they stop believing they will be part of those unbelievers in John 3:18 under condemnation. Faith is a continuous state; we must continue to believe to remain justified before God. True believers are no longer slaves to sin but servants of righteousness.
I sense limited atonement in the above statement, which is satanic deception. Who did God not love? Who did Jesus not shed His blood for?
God did not limit the atonement from certain people, but people limit its efficacy by refusing to accept the free gift of salvation. Heb 2:3 How shall we escape, if we neglect so great salvation; which at the first began to be spoken by the Lord, and was confirmed unto us by them that heard him.
People limit the atonement's efficacy by being stiff-necked and resisting the Holy Spirit's conviction. Act 7:51 Ye stiffnecked and uncircumcised in heart and ears, ye do always resist the Holy Ghost: as your fathers did, so do ye.
Jesus was made the peace offering for both Jews, Gentiles, young, and old. Every single person on earth has gone astray, not just the "elect", thus everyone's sin was laid on Jesus so that if they BELIEVE, His righteousness will come upon them. These passages prove the unlimited provision of salvation through Christ: Isa 53:6 All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the LORD hath laid on him the iniquity of us all.
Rom 3:22-23
22 Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference:
23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;
What about John 3:16 "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life", 1 John 2:2 "And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world", and John 1:29 "...Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world"? The world that God loved and gave His Son for did not consist of just the "elect" but every unbeliever. What has to come into the equation for one to be saved hence nullifying universalism is REPENTANCE and FAITH in the finished work of Christ.
Finally, Christ's sacrifice on Calvary is analogous to the brazen serpent in the wilderness, John 3:14-15 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up: That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life. Everyone that was bitten by the serpents had access to the brazen serpent for healing; all they had to do was look at it and live. Similarly, every sinner has access to the Holy of holies that if they approach it with a penitent heart and faith in Christ's finished work, the blood of Christ will wash away their sins and they will enter the family of God.
But if they stop believing they will be part of those unbelievers in John 3:18 under condemnation. Faith is a continuous state; we must continue to believe to remain justified before God. True believers are no longer slaves to sin but servants of righteousness.
I sense limited atonement in the above statement, which is satanic deception. Who did God not love? Who did Jesus not shed His blood for?
God did not limit the atonement from certain people, but people limit its efficacy by refusing to accept the free gift of salvation. Heb 2:3 How shall we escape, if we neglect so great salvation; which at the first began to be spoken by the Lord, and was confirmed unto us by them that heard him.
People limit the atonement's efficacy by being stiff-necked and resisting the Holy Spirit's conviction. Act 7:51 Ye stiffnecked and uncircumcised in heart and ears, ye do always resist the Holy Ghost: as your fathers did, so do ye.
Jesus was made the peace offering for both Jews, Gentiles, young, and old. Every single person on earth has gone astray, not just the "elect", thus everyone's sin was laid on Jesus so that if they BELIEVE, His righteousness will come upon them. These passages prove the unlimited provision of salvation through Christ: Isa 53:6 All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the LORD hath laid on him the iniquity of us all.
Rom 3:22-23
22 Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference:
23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;
What about John 3:16 "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life", 1 John 2:2 "And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world", and John 1:29 "...Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world"? The world that God loved and gave His Son for did not consist of just the "elect" but every unbeliever. What has to come into the equation for one to be saved hence nullifying universalism is REPENTANCE and FAITH in the finished work of Christ.
Finally, Christ's sacrifice on Calvary is analogous to the brazen serpent in the wilderness, John 3:14-15 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up: That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life. Everyone that was bitten by the serpents had access to the brazen serpent for healing; all they had to do was look at it and live. Similarly, every sinner has access to the Holy of holies that if they approach it with a penitent heart and faith in Christ's finished work, the blood of Christ will wash away their sins and they will enter the family of God.
Ephesians 2:5made us alive with Christ even when we were dead in transgressions—it is by grace you have been saved.
Ephesians 2:8For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God
Ephesians 2:8For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God
Romans 5:10We hated God. But we were saved from the punishment of sin by the death of Christ. He has brought us back to God and we will be saved by His life.
Romans 1:17The Good News tells us we are made right with God by faith in Him. Then, by faith we live that new life through Him. The Holy Writings say, “A man right with God lives by faith.”
Romans 6:4We were buried in baptism as Christ was buried in death. As Christ was raised from the dead by the great power of God, so we will have new life also.
Romans 6:5If we have become one with Christ in His death, we will be one with Him in being raised from the dead to new life.
Romans 6:11You must do the same thing! Think of yourselves as dead to the power of sin. But now you have new life because of Jesus Christ our Lord. You are living this new life for God.
Romans 12:2Do not act like the sinful people of the world. Let God change your life. First of all, let Him give you a new mind. Then you will know what God wants you to do. And the things you do will be good and pleasing and perfect.
1 Corinthians 1:30God Himself made the way so you can have new life through Christ Jesus. God gave us Christ to be our wisdom. Christ made us right with God and set us apart for God and made us holy. Christ bought us with His blood and made us free from our sins.
2 Corinthians 3:6God is the One Who made us preachers of a New Way of Worship. This New Way of Worship is not of the Law. It is of the Holy Spirit. The Law brings death, but the Holy Spirit gives life.
2 Corinthians 3:10The Law of Moses came with shining-greatness long ago. But that light is no longer bright. The shining-greatness of the New Way of Worship that brings us life is so much brighter.
2 Corinthians 3:11The shining light that came with the Law of Moses soon passed away. But the new way of life is much brighter. It will never pass away.
2 Corinthians 5:17For if a man belongs to Christ, he is a new person. The old life is gone. New life has begun.
Colossians 1:6The Good News came to you the same as it is now going out to all the world. Lives are being changed, just as your life was changed the day you heard the Good News. You understood the truth about God’s loving-kindness.
Colossians 2:12When you were baptized, you were buried as Christ was buried. When you were raised up in baptism, you were raised as Christ was raised. You were raised to a new life by putting your trust in God. It was God Who raised Jesus from the dead.
Colossians 2:13When you were dead in your sins, you were not set free from the sinful things of the world. But God forgave your sins and gave you new life through Christ.
Colossians 3:3You are dead to the things of this world. Your new life is now hidden in God through Christ.
Colossians 3:11There is no difference in men in this new life. Greeks and Jews are the same. The man who has gone through the religious act of becoming a Jew and the one who has not are the same. There is no difference between nations. Men who are servants and those who are free are the same. Christ is everything. He is in all of us.
Colossians 3:12God has chosen you. You are holy and loved by Him. Because of this, your new life should be full of loving-pity. You should be kind to others and have no pride. Be gentle and be willing to wait for others.
2 Timothy 1:10We know about it now because of the coming of Jesus Christ, the One Who saves. He put a stop to the power of death and brought life that never dies which is seen through the Good News.
Titus 3:5by saving us from the punishment of sin. It was not because we worked to be right with God. It was because of His loving-kindness that He washed our sins away. At the same time He gave us new life when the Holy Spirit came into our lives.
Hebrews 9:15Christ is the One Who gave us this New Way of Worship. All those who have been called by God may receive life that lasts forever just as He promised them. Christ bought us with His blood when He died for us. This made us free from our sins which we did under the Old Way of Worship
1 Peter 1:3Let us thank the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ. It was through His loving-kindness that we were born again to a new life and have a hope that never dies. This hope is ours because Jesus was raised from the dead.
1 Peter 1:23You have been given a new birth. It was from a seed that cannot die. This new life is from the Word of God which lives forever.
Romans 1:17The Good News tells us we are made right with God by faith in Him. Then, by faith we live that new life through Him. The Holy Writings say, “A man right with God lives by faith.”
Romans 6:4We were buried in baptism as Christ was buried in death. As Christ was raised from the dead by the great power of God, so we will have new life also.
Romans 6:5If we have become one with Christ in His death, we will be one with Him in being raised from the dead to new life.
Romans 6:11You must do the same thing! Think of yourselves as dead to the power of sin. But now you have new life because of Jesus Christ our Lord. You are living this new life for God.
Romans 12:2Do not act like the sinful people of the world. Let God change your life. First of all, let Him give you a new mind. Then you will know what God wants you to do. And the things you do will be good and pleasing and perfect.
1 Corinthians 1:30God Himself made the way so you can have new life through Christ Jesus. God gave us Christ to be our wisdom. Christ made us right with God and set us apart for God and made us holy. Christ bought us with His blood and made us free from our sins.
2 Corinthians 3:6God is the One Who made us preachers of a New Way of Worship. This New Way of Worship is not of the Law. It is of the Holy Spirit. The Law brings death, but the Holy Spirit gives life.
2 Corinthians 3:10The Law of Moses came with shining-greatness long ago. But that light is no longer bright. The shining-greatness of the New Way of Worship that brings us life is so much brighter.
2 Corinthians 3:11The shining light that came with the Law of Moses soon passed away. But the new way of life is much brighter. It will never pass away.
2 Corinthians 5:17For if a man belongs to Christ, he is a new person. The old life is gone. New life has begun.
Colossians 1:6The Good News came to you the same as it is now going out to all the world. Lives are being changed, just as your life was changed the day you heard the Good News. You understood the truth about God’s loving-kindness.
Colossians 2:12When you were baptized, you were buried as Christ was buried. When you were raised up in baptism, you were raised as Christ was raised. You were raised to a new life by putting your trust in God. It was God Who raised Jesus from the dead.
Colossians 2:13When you were dead in your sins, you were not set free from the sinful things of the world. But God forgave your sins and gave you new life through Christ.
Colossians 3:3You are dead to the things of this world. Your new life is now hidden in God through Christ.
Colossians 3:11There is no difference in men in this new life. Greeks and Jews are the same. The man who has gone through the religious act of becoming a Jew and the one who has not are the same. There is no difference between nations. Men who are servants and those who are free are the same. Christ is everything. He is in all of us.
Colossians 3:12God has chosen you. You are holy and loved by Him. Because of this, your new life should be full of loving-pity. You should be kind to others and have no pride. Be gentle and be willing to wait for others.
2 Timothy 1:10We know about it now because of the coming of Jesus Christ, the One Who saves. He put a stop to the power of death and brought life that never dies which is seen through the Good News.
Titus 3:5by saving us from the punishment of sin. It was not because we worked to be right with God. It was because of His loving-kindness that He washed our sins away. At the same time He gave us new life when the Holy Spirit came into our lives.
Hebrews 9:15Christ is the One Who gave us this New Way of Worship. All those who have been called by God may receive life that lasts forever just as He promised them. Christ bought us with His blood when He died for us. This made us free from our sins which we did under the Old Way of Worship
1 Peter 1:3Let us thank the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ. It was through His loving-kindness that we were born again to a new life and have a hope that never dies. This hope is ours because Jesus was raised from the dead.
1 Peter 1:23You have been given a new birth. It was from a seed that cannot die. This new life is from the Word of God which lives forever.
Jesus died for everyone but only those who repent and believe benefit from His redemption. A sinner who has been reconciled to God does not remain an unbeliever/enemy of God. Do you agree?
If a believer loses faith, turns from God and starts walking after the flesh, they will come under condemnation again (Rom 8:1) because those who have been reconciled must continue to live in faith and obedience through the power of the Holy Spirit. Do you agree?
If a believer loses faith, turns from God and starts walking after the flesh, they will come under condemnation again (Rom 8:1) because those who have been reconciled must continue to live in faith and obedience through the power of the Holy Spirit. Do you agree?
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That's false, those Christ died for receive benefit of His Death even while they are enemies /unbelievers because even then they are reconciled to God ! Rom 5:10
10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.
Now that does not apply to everyone because some people as unbelievers are not reconciled to God but under His Wrath Jn 3:36
36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.
Now they cannot be the same unbelievers/enemies as in Rom 5:10 !
That's false, those Christ died for receive benefit of His Death even while they are enemies /unbelievers because even then they are reconciled to God ! Rom 5:10
10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.
Now that does not apply to everyone because some people as unbelievers are not reconciled to God but under His Wrath Jn 3:36
36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.
Now they cannot be the same unbelievers/enemies as in Rom 5:10 !
I posted this because I got the drift that you do not understand that when one changes their mind from unbelief to belief in the finished work of the cross, by the Holy Ghost presenting this to them that from God the Father's perspective has saved that person(s).
No one is saved by the death of Christ, we are saved by the life the resurrection and are called to renew our mnds to see things from Father's viewpoint in the Spirit, our born again Spirit by and of God through the cross
No one is saved by the death of Christ, we are saved by the life the resurrection and are called to renew our mnds to see things from Father's viewpoint in the Spirit, our born again Spirit by and of God through the cross
The verse Romans 5:10 is talking about being forgiven the whole world whether unbeliebvers or not, because Jesus first wiped the slate clean through his death while there were unbeleivers and beleivers. but that does not bring life. Now if someone believes then they are from God's perspective born again whether they are aware of it or not and will learn this from God.
John 1:29[ John Testifies About Jesus ] The next day John saw Jesus coming toward him and said, “Look, the Lamb of God, who takes away the sin of the world!
John 1:29[ John Testifies About Jesus ] The next day John saw Jesus coming toward him and said, “Look, the Lamb of God, who takes away the sin of the world!
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No its not, it says nothing here in Rom 5:10 about the whole World being forgiven ! All unbelievers are not forgiven, for Jesus says of them in Jn 3:36
36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.
That the Wrath of God abideth on them, also He said they shall never, no never see Life !
No its not, it says nothing here in Rom 5:10 about the whole World being forgiven ! All unbelievers are not forgiven, for Jesus says of them in Jn 3:36
36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.
That the Wrath of God abideth on them, also He said they shall never, no never see Life !
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That's not True, those Christ died for are saved by His Death, the Resurrection is evidence of it. All those Christ died for were healed by His Stripes, which means His Death 1 Pet 2:24
24 Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed.
That word healed is the greek word iaomai and means:
to cure, heal
2) to make whole
a) to free from errors and sins, to bring about (one's) salvation
To bring about ones Salvation means to save, to make whole !
To say that no one is saved by the Death of Christ is Blasphemous and very dishonoring to Christ and His Blood !
That's not True, those Christ died for are saved by His Death, the Resurrection is evidence of it. All those Christ died for were healed by His Stripes, which means His Death 1 Pet 2:24
24 Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed.
That word healed is the greek word iaomai and means:
to cure, heal
2) to make whole
a) to free from errors and sins, to bring about (one's) salvation
To bring about ones Salvation means to save, to make whole !
To say that no one is saved by the Death of Christ is Blasphemous and very dishonoring to Christ and His Blood !