Release from the bonds of the Catholic church
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I admit there is confusion when non believers look at the protestant mess and see Christians who can't agree on anything. We were warned about these divisions by Paul, as they are not a good witness to others. I see the mess myself.
For the most part, Christian denominations agree on the gospel message (salvation), which is the most important one to get right. When it comes to non salvational topics there are disagreements on interpretations because many hold to certain eschatology views that have them view scripture a certain way, they are influenced by their view. A bit like how as a Catholic you might view scripture to support Catholicism rather than look on it without Catholicism influencing you.
Catholicism differs from most Christian denominations, in that it doesn't agree on the true gospel message of salvation, that we are saved by grace through faith alone in His work on the cross.
I'm not a protestant and I'm non denominational, I don't agree with many doctrines that the denominations embrace. Some of the churches today have embraced heresies aka "doctrines of demons".
Only those who are born again (who have been spiritually born) will see Heaven.
For the most part, Christian denominations agree on the gospel message (salvation), which is the most important one to get right. When it comes to non salvational topics there are disagreements on interpretations because many hold to certain eschatology views that have them view scripture a certain way, they are influenced by their view. A bit like how as a Catholic you might view scripture to support Catholicism rather than look on it without Catholicism influencing you.
Catholicism differs from most Christian denominations, in that it doesn't agree on the true gospel message of salvation, that we are saved by grace through faith alone in His work on the cross.
I'm not a protestant and I'm non denominational, I don't agree with many doctrines that the denominations embrace. Some of the churches today have embraced heresies aka "doctrines of demons".
Only those who are born again (who have been spiritually born) will see Heaven.
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Maynard (or any Catholic that wants to answer) - I have a couple of questions for you in relation to your disagreeing of scripture being our sole authority.........
Without scripture, how do you discern between truth and error?
Without scripture, how do you test to see who the false teachers are? How do you know who is deceiving you and who is not?
Without scripture, how do you discern between truth and error?
Without scripture, how do you test to see who the false teachers are? How do you know who is deceiving you and who is not?
What you are proposing is a fallacy, saying that it's all or nothing, that all we have is scripture. That is not true, Katy.
Of course we need scripture. But we require more than that too. God did not just drop the Bible from the sky and then disappear forever never to be heard from again. He sent us the Paraclete, the Holy Spirit, to abide with and guide us and his Church until Christ returns. That Bible, which you cling to as the sole source of your teaching and inspiration, was compiled under the guidance and direction of the Holy Spirit by his Holy Catholic Church in the 4th century. Yes, Luther the heretic saw fit to change/edit/trash the word of God 1200 years later, but that is another topic altogether.
Thank GOD (and his Holy Church guided by the Holy Spirit) for this compilation of Christian teaching called the Bible, the Word of God, and thank God for the Holy Spirit which guides his Church and her teachings since that first Pentecost when the Holy Spirit descended upon the Apostles to lead them and Christ's visible Church on earth until Christ comes again in Glory.
"I am telling you the truth: it is for your own good that I am going, because unless I go, the Paraclete (Holy Spirit) will not come to you; but if I go, I will send him to you. "
Praise God.
Of course we need scripture. But we require more than that too. God did not just drop the Bible from the sky and then disappear forever never to be heard from again. He sent us the Paraclete, the Holy Spirit, to abide with and guide us and his Church until Christ returns. That Bible, which you cling to as the sole source of your teaching and inspiration, was compiled under the guidance and direction of the Holy Spirit by his Holy Catholic Church in the 4th century. Yes, Luther the heretic saw fit to change/edit/trash the word of God 1200 years later, but that is another topic altogether.
Thank GOD (and his Holy Church guided by the Holy Spirit) for this compilation of Christian teaching called the Bible, the Word of God, and thank God for the Holy Spirit which guides his Church and her teachings since that first Pentecost when the Holy Spirit descended upon the Apostles to lead them and Christ's visible Church on earth until Christ comes again in Glory.
"I am telling you the truth: it is for your own good that I am going, because unless I go, the Paraclete (Holy Spirit) will not come to you; but if I go, I will send him to you. "
Praise God.
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I hear you, sister. I believe anybody who says Jesus is Lord, who died for our sins, and was roused from the dead is a Christian despite their church doctrine not because of it. The word church is not even in scripture. It is a mistranslation of the Greek "ekklesia," correctly translated "ecclesia," usually referring to those called out of all nations to be "the body of Christ." I was born into the Catholic Church, but I left it when I was young. I checked out some Protestant churches afterwards, but now I think the word of God is sufficient for me. I don't need ritual or any extra doctrine to supplement, interpret, or confuse it. I study a concordant literal translation to get the best idea of what the ancient Hebrew and Greek text says. I'm not protesting the doctrine of Rome, just ignoring it and all church doctrine. As far as I'm concerned the Catholic vs. Protestant debate is a family squabble over peripheral doctrine while agreeing on the basic doctrine of the Trinity and torture in fire forever for unbelievers neither of which are in scripture translated correctly. If you Protestants are serious about breaking away from Rome, you should purge those doctrines too. Otherwise you're just a branch of the Roman church that you despise. I understand you folks all consider your own traditions to be the correct ones, and I say, if that's what makes you happy, go for it. But I think your traditions are just getting in the way of the word of truth.
"You shall love your associate as yourself." (Leviticus 19:18; Romans 13:9; Galatians 5:14)
"You shall love your associate as yourself." (Leviticus 19:18; Romans 13:9; Galatians 5:14)
Odd thing is - when the 'reformation' happened it was catholic priests that took the new helm. They did many of the same things and copied many of the same rituals. They didn't go back to the Bible and say "what does it really say"
So we're still blessed by the Constantine-approved doctrines of pseudo-Christianity.
A wide gate for all to follow - else they would be killed. Burned generally.
Jesus would NOT have been proud....
But most of Christendom is based on those ideas - have fun - I hope Jesus understands
So we're still blessed by the Constantine-approved doctrines of pseudo-Christianity.
A wide gate for all to follow - else they would be killed. Burned generally.
Jesus would NOT have been proud....But most of Christendom is based on those ideas - have fun - I hope Jesus understands
Speaking of which, tomorrow is Pentecost, the birth of the Church. Happy Pentacost, everyone! Happy birthday to the Holy Apostolic Church! Praise God! Come, Holy Spirit!
When the time for Pentecost was fulfilled,
they were all in one place together.
And suddenly there came from the sky
a noise like a strong driving wind,
and it filled the entire house in which they were.
Then there appeared to them tongues as of fire,
which parted and came to rest on each one of them.
And they were all filled with the Holy Spirit
and began to speak in different tongues,
as the Spirit enabled them to proclaim.
Now there were devout Jews from every nation under heaven
staying in Jerusalem.
At this sound, they gathered in a large crowd,
but they were confused
because each one heard them speaking in his own language.
They were astounded, and in amazement they asked,
“Are not all these people who are speaking Galileans?
Then how does each of us hear them in his native language?
We are Parthians, Medes, and Elamites,
inhabitants of Mesopotamia, Judea and Cappadocia,
Pontus and Asia, Phrygia and Pamphylia,
Egypt and the districts of Libya near Cyrene,
as well as travelers from Rome,
both Jews and converts to Judaism, Cretans and Arabs,
yet we hear them speaking in our own tongues
of the mighty acts of God.”
Acts 2
When the time for Pentecost was fulfilled,
they were all in one place together.
And suddenly there came from the sky
a noise like a strong driving wind,
and it filled the entire house in which they were.
Then there appeared to them tongues as of fire,
which parted and came to rest on each one of them.
And they were all filled with the Holy Spirit
and began to speak in different tongues,
as the Spirit enabled them to proclaim.
Now there were devout Jews from every nation under heaven
staying in Jerusalem.
At this sound, they gathered in a large crowd,
but they were confused
because each one heard them speaking in his own language.
They were astounded, and in amazement they asked,
“Are not all these people who are speaking Galileans?
Then how does each of us hear them in his native language?
We are Parthians, Medes, and Elamites,
inhabitants of Mesopotamia, Judea and Cappadocia,
Pontus and Asia, Phrygia and Pamphylia,
Egypt and the districts of Libya near Cyrene,
as well as travelers from Rome,
both Jews and converts to Judaism, Cretans and Arabs,
yet we hear them speaking in our own tongues
of the mighty acts of God.”
Acts 2