Remarriage Bibically

[iwant2serve]

Ladylynn I have never said to go back to your old marriage if you have remarried. I have said that the person you married is not yours. Again we try to make forgiveness a reason to continue in what God said is a sin. If God says its a sin then you have to stop doing the sin in seeking forgiveness or a thief can continue to steal, a murderer can continue to murder, a unmarried person can continue to have sex and so on.
To many times I have said this if its the divorce you are asking for forgiveness for that is one thing. If you are asking for forgiveness for being remarried then you cannot continue to sleep with that person and claim them as your spouse because according to the Bible they were never your spouse.

 

[shotgunner]

Jesus gave one reason for divorce ant that is fornication period. Then he said who ever married a divorced women commits adultery. The thing is we want to rearrange what God said to fit our human emotions then say its ok. That would be no different then in the sacrifice given was not to the standards God said. It is not a valid marriage if God said its adultery. So when did God say something was not acceptable to him and later said its now acceptable?

So then according to your doctrine unless there is fornication there can be no forgiveness and no remarriage. That means that according to your doctrine the only way someone can get remarried is if they go and commit fornication so that they have a valid reason to divorce ,then they can be forgiven and remarry.

By your doctrine if a woman is completely innocent but her husband divorces her, she can never remarry and have a Godly relationship. She would have to go and commit adultery with someone else so that she could be legally divorced. Then she would be free to be forgiven and then remarry.

Do you allow someone who has committed adultery and been divorced because of it to remarry?

 

[iwant2serve]

So then according to your doctrine unless there is fornication there can be no forgiveness and no remarriage. That means that according to your doctrine the only way someone can get remarried is if they go and commit fornication so that they have a valid reason to divorce ,then they can be forgiven and remarry.

By your doctrine if a woman is completely innocent but her husband divorces her, she can never remarry and have a Godly relationship. She would have to go and commit adultery with someone else so that she could be legally divorced. Then she would be free to be forgiven and then remarry.

Do you allow someone who has committed adultery and been divorced because of it to remarry?

Why are you trying to find loop holes? Jesus said if you divorce with no fornication being committed that if you remarry it is adultery. Can it get any clearer than that? I posted several scriptures of what was said about this subject. One passage says if a man divorces his wife and no fornication has been committed she remarries he forces her to commit adultery. Read the scriptures. I know my view is very unpopular with many Christians and I once had the same views until I studied about it and how God views marriage.

 

[GodIsSalvation]

Why are you trying to find loop holes? Jesus said if you divorce with no fornication being committed that if you remarry it is adultery. Can it get any clearer than that? I posted several scriptures of what was said about this subject. One passage says if a man divorces his wife and no fornication has been committed she remarries he forces her to commit adultery. Read the scriptures. I know my view is very unpopular with many Christians and I once had the same views until I studied about it and how God views marriage.

Sounds like a loophole itself that if your spouse cheated on you that you are free to remarry. Yet that's not what the Bible says. Only says you can divorce if your spouse cheats on you. Says clearly anyone that remarries is an adulterer. Anyone that marries a woman divorced is an adulterer. Only logical way to remarry without adultery is if one spouse is dead.

 

[iwant2serve]

Sounds like a loophole itself that if your spouse cheated on you that you are free to remarry. Yet that's not what the Bible says. Only says you can divorce if your spouse cheats on you. Says clearly anyone that remarries is an adulterer. Anyone that marries a woman divorced is an adulterer. Only logical way to remarry without adultery is if one spouse is dead.

Then according to what you have just said anyone who remarries is committing adultery unless the other spouse is dead. So no one can remarry period. Is that what you are saying?

 

[GodIsSalvation]

Then according to what you have just said anyone who remarries is committing adultery unless the other spouse is dead. So no one can remarry period. Is that what you are saying?

Yes, that is what the Bible says.

Luke 16:18

[SUP]18 [/SUP]Whosoever putteth away his wife, and marrieth another, committeth adultery: and whosoever marrieth her that is put away from her husband committeth adultery.

 

[shotgunner]

Why are you trying to find loop holes? Jesus said if you divorce with no fornication being committed that if you remarry it is adultery. Can it get any clearer than that? I posted several scriptures of what was said about this subject. One passage says if a man divorces his wife and no fornication has been committed she remarries he forces her to commit adultery. Read the scriptures. I know my view is very unpopular with many Christians and I once had the same views until I studied about it and how God views marriage.

I'm not trying to find loop holes. I'm trying to show you that the way you interpret the scriptures is wrong. I am concerned that when you went and studied it you were even more wrong. You have to reconcile all the scriptures to agree in the way they are interpreted. In your interpretation the law that Moses gave that was from God does not agree with the way you interpret the words of Jesus.

I'll ask you again, Can someone who has been divorced because of adultery marry again?

 

[iwant2serve]

I'm not trying to find loop holes. I'm trying to show you that the way you interpret the scriptures is wrong. I am concerned that when you went and studied it you were even more wrong. You have to reconcile all the scriptures to agree in the way they are interpreted. In your interpretation the law that Moses gave that was from God does not agree with the way you interpret the words of Jesus.

I'll ask you again, Can someone who has been divorced because of adultery marry again?

I have never said a person who divorced because of fornication cannot be remarried.

 

[shotgunner]

I have never said a person who divorced because of fornication cannot be remarried.

So only an innocent person who hasn't committed adultery has to suffer alone the rest of their life? You would not allow a woman who has done no wrong, yet her husband divorced her to remarry?

I am not trying to be hostile with you. I'm only trying to get you to see the fallacy of your position.

 

[iwant2serve]

So only an innocent person who hasn't committed adultery has to suffer alone the rest of their life? You would not allow a woman who has done no wrong, yet her husband divorced her to remarry?

I am not trying to be hostile with you. I'm only trying to get you to see the fallacy of your position.

The Bible says divorce is permitted by fornication. That would mean the bond of the marriage has been broken, yet that is not the first solution. The couple should first look to work out the problem if it cannot be worked out then the innocent one can divorce. Because the innocent did not break the bond of the marriage they are free to marry but the guilty one is not as far as I believe.

 

[WarriorHadassah]

Why do you think about remarriage and divorce all the time?

 

[shotgunner]

The Bible says divorce is permitted by fornication. That would mean the bond of the marriage has been broken, yet that is not the first solution. The couple should first look to work out the problem if it cannot be worked out then the innocent one can divorce. Because the innocent did not break the bond of the marriage they are free to marry but the guilty one is not as far as I believe.

I agree with you that divorce is the very last solution. You however still have no forgiveness for the guilty party. Is this sin then one that can never be forgiven for the guilty party? Must they pay for it the rest of their lives? How is it that God can forgive all other sins and restore a person as if they never sinned, except for divorce?

 

[iwant2serve]

Why do you think about remarriage and divorce all the time?

The main reason is because there is to much divorce among the Christians. How can we tell people that God blesses families when they keep splitting up for various reasons. Also many Pastors do not want to address this issue because it is one that will effect a vast majority of the church.

 

[iwant2serve]

I agree with you that divorce is the very last solution. You however still have no forgiveness for the guilty party. Is this sin then one that can never be forgiven for the guilty party? Must they pay for it the rest of their lives? How is it that God can forgive all other sins and restore a person as if they never sinned, except for divorce?

Forgiveness is not grounds for a do over. If I murder and God forgives me does that mean I get a chance to murder again?

 

[blondieindahouse]

Forgiveness is not grounds for a do over. If I murder and God forgives me does that mean I get a chance to murder again?

Who say there would be a do over in divorce? That is what YOU JUST SAID.
So now you venture to compare murder to remarriage? You really are amusing!

 

[GodIsSalvation]

The main reason is because there is to much divorce among the Christians. How can we tell people that God blesses families when they keep splitting up for various reasons. Also many Pastors do not want to address this issue because it is one that will effect a vast majority of the church.

I agree much, and even though we have discourse or disagreements, or even just simple questions, I am glad you address this issue. Very important issue in our particular society, not even just as it pertains to the churches, but to America as a whole, especially for what seems to be your generation and mine. It's kinda like the gorilla in the room analogy. No one wants the gorilla in their room, but it's kinda hard to ignore it. I think you go about leading the discussion and ponderings in a good manner sir iwant2serve.

 

[iwant2serve]

Who say there would be a do over in divorce? That is what YOU JUST SAID.
So now you venture to compare murder to remarriage? You really are amusing!

I am not comparing it to murder it is just like any other thing God said is wrong. So you steal and are forgiven do you get a chance to steal again. You have sex before marriage and forgiven, does that mean you can do it again? The problem is people want to find a way to justify the actions as if God does not mean what he says. You do not have to like what position I hold, that is your right as a person but you do not have the right to talk to men the way you do because you do not agree.

 

[shotgunner]

Forgiveness is not grounds for a do over. If I murder and God forgives me does that mean I get a chance to murder again?

That is not a good example and you know it. Do you really think someone would remarry with the intention of divorcing again? Marriage isn't a sin. If you can be forgiven for divorce then you can't still hold that sin against someone and forbid them to ever marry again.



You are wrong in your position because you take what Jesus said to the Pharisee as for everyone. Jesus was however addressing the specific sin that they were committing of not taking the marriage as sacred. They were using the law which was given to free people from undue bondage as a way to have many affairs under the guise of marriage.


The way you view the words Jesus used to correct the Pharisees would go directly against the law that was given. Jesus himself said that he did not come to destroy the law. You must interpret what Jesus said so that it still agrees with the law which did allow for divorce and remarriage.

 

[iwant2serve]

That is not a good example and you know it. Do you really think someone would remarry with the intention of divorcing again? Marriage isn't a sin. If you can be forgiven for divorce then you can't still hold that sin against someone and forbid them to ever marry again.



You are wrong in your position because you take what Jesus said to the Pharisee as for everyone. Jesus was however addressing the specific sin that they were committing of not taking the marriage as sacred. They were using the law which was given to free people from undue bondage as a way to have many affairs under the guise of marriage.


The way you view the words Jesus used to correct the Pharisees would go directly against the law that was given. Jesus himself said that he did not come to destroy the law. You must interpret what Jesus said so that it still agrees with the law which did allow for divorce and remarriage.

Ok then lets use what Paul said in 1 Cor 7:10-11[SUP]10 [/SUP]But to the married people I give charge—not I but the Lord—that the wife is not to separate from her husband.
[SUP]11 [/SUP]But if she does [separate from and divorce him], let her remain single or else be reconciled to her husband. And [I charge] the husband [also] that he should not put away or divorce his wife.

So the wife is not to leave the husband and the husband is not to put away his wife. If they do they are to remain unmarried or come together again. Who is being talked to here?

 

[GodIsSalvation]

Ok then lets use what Paul said in 1 Cor 7:10-11[SUP]10 [/SUP]But to the married people I give charge—not I but the Lord—that the wife is not to separate from her husband.
[SUP]11 [/SUP]But if she does [separate from and divorce him], let her remain single or else be reconciled to her husband. And [I charge] the husband [also] that he should not put away or divorce his wife.

So the wife is not to leave the husband and the husband is not to put away his wife. If they do they are to remain unmarried or come together again. Who is being talked to here?

Aye good points right here.