Repentance is the Gift Of God !
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No .... the "and THAT not of yourselves" relates to the faith not to grace ... it is obvious to all that the grace is not ours but only Gods. People do not boast that they were saved by their own grace, they boast that they were saved by their own faith. Paul saw them coming.
You will have to ask the Calvinists about what they believe.
Listening and hearing are not the same thing ... we will only "hear" if God opens our ears to hear.
You will have to ask the Calvinists about what they believe.
Listening and hearing are not the same thing ... we will only "hear" if God opens our ears to hear.
God tells us in Ez 33:11 As I live, saith the Lord GOD, I have no pleasure in the death of the wicked; but that the wicked turn from his way and live: turn ye, turn ye from your evil ways
Applying your rendering to Ez 33:11 ...
We know God does not have pleasure in the death of the wicked
And we know God wants the wicked to turn from his way and live
Yet when God tells the wicked turn ye, turn ye from your evil ways
God withholds that which is needed to turn???
Applying your rendering to Ez 33:11 ...
We know God does not have pleasure in the death of the wicked
And we know God wants the wicked to turn from his way and live
Yet when God tells the wicked turn ye, turn ye from your evil ways
God withholds that which is needed to turn???
Thayer's Greek Lexicon concerning Acts 5:31:
6. δίδωμι is joined with nouns denoting an act or an effect
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b. the noun denotes something to be done by him to whom it is said to be given: διδόναι τίνι μετάνοιαν, to cause him to repent, Acts 5:31; Acts 11:18; γνῶσινσωτηρίας,Luke 1:77; ἐλπίδα τίνι, 2 Thessalonians 2:16.
That is not a rabbit trail.
You say "God gives repentance and they repent. If God doesnt give repentance, they dont repent".
Now apply what you say to Ez 33:11 As I live, saith the Lord GOD, I have no pleasure in the death of the wicked; but that the wicked turn from his way and live: turn ye, turn ye from your evil ways
You are saying that God does not give repentance to those He clearly and unequivocally tells us His desire is that they turn from their evil ways.
Look, brightfame52, I am not telling you anything you haven't already heard from others here, as well as other websites you post your "Repentance is the Gift of God" spiel (theology web.com, christianityboard.com, worthychristianforums.com to name a few).
Pray for God to grant you understanding of the true meaning of repentance so that you may read all of Scripture with full understanding.
you claiming "rabbit trail" does not make it so.
When you will not even deal with the truth laid out in Scripture, and insist that it's your way or call "rabbit trail", I will stick with what God tells us ... As I live, saith the Lord GOD, I have no pleasure in the death of the wicked; but that the wicked turn from his way and live: turn ye, turn ye from your evil ways ... (Ez 33:11).
All on this forum acknowledge that not all come to repentance. All on this forum praise God for His boundless grace and mercy toward us.
However, not all on this forum (and other forums on which you post your spiel) agree with you in your understanding concerning this issue.
You have been given good instruction and understanding here and on the other forums. Do not reject the truth of Scripture in this matter.
When you will not even deal with the truth laid out in Scripture, and insist that it's your way or call "rabbit trail", I will stick with what God tells us ... As I live, saith the Lord GOD, I have no pleasure in the death of the wicked; but that the wicked turn from his way and live: turn ye, turn ye from your evil ways ... (Ez 33:11).
All on this forum acknowledge that not all come to repentance. All on this forum praise God for His boundless grace and mercy toward us.
However, not all on this forum (and other forums on which you post your spiel) agree with you in your understanding concerning this issue.
You have been given good instruction and understanding here and on the other forums. Do not reject the truth of Scripture in this matter.
Your rejection of the definition of δίδωμι found in Thayer's Greek-English Lexicon of the New Testament has nothing to do with my study.
Thayer's Greek Lexicon concerning Acts 5:31:
Thayer's Greek Lexicon concerning Acts 5:31:
6. δίδωμι is joined with nouns denoting an act or an effect
...
b. the noun denotes something to be done by him to whom it is said to be given: διδόναι τίνι μετάνοιαν, to cause him to repent, Acts 5:31; Acts 11:18; γνῶσινσωτηρίας,Luke 1:77; ἐλπίδα τίνι, 2 Thessalonians 2:16.