"replacement theology" - what is it?

[kaylagrl]

This is sickening .. and nothing more than a desperate appeal to the unlearned. How dare anybody suggest that all people today need the gospel .. including the Jews. There's only one way to say what I am going to say. You haven't a clue what you are talking about.

Quote". How dare anybody suggest that all people today need the gospel .. including the Jews. "

Huh? What are you talking about?! Why wouldn't the Jews need the Gospel?! What is sickening?!

 

[kaylagrl]

Why do you insist on supporting those God hating thugs in Isael?

Because God DOES!! And your true colors are finally showing through. There are God hating people all over the world, do you pray for them? Or do you hate them as much as the Jews? What happened to God so loved the world? Not those vermin in Israel though!! I cannot believe what I am hearing!!!! Or that people on a CHRISTIAN site would agree with your hatred. Smh This makes me so angry,just unbelievably full of sorrow and anger. Im so glad I dont serve your god.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Yes, just off the top of my head around 57 million people died during WWII. Yes, the Nazis killed many non-jewish people simply because they did not comply....Does that sound familiar with today's Liberals in the US... While it has not gotten to the Killing stage YET?, they are Non-Tolerant of anyone who disagrees with them.

The Holocaust is a representation of a very Bad people Nazi Germany killing and trying to commit Genocide on a people simply because their beliefs in God...You see Satan was behind it all...

Yep.. And this "Holocost" made ad 70 look like a picnic. And of course, Goes to show just how "bound" satan is >>>NOT>>>

 

[kaylagrl]

What a misrepresentation of Trofimus' words... you should be ashamed!

HE should be ashamed?!!!

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Israelis have been dispersed throughout the world for 2000 years. Yet even today, they are doing DNA test to find Levi for the Temple priest that is fixing to be rebuilt.

The only problem is that most of the ones you speak of are not Messianic Jews those who believe in Jesus Christ 'Lock, Stock and Barrel'

actually, as a people they have been discpersed for quite longer than that. Not everyone came back from babylon. Many stayed where they were. Which is why the disicples spoke to so many on their own native language, which was not hebrew.. Even today, I believe there are more in the US than Palestine.

Your right, they deny the messiah, The blindness in part is still in effect.

 

[kaylagrl]

Was God an "anti-semite" for His punishment of Israel's repeated waywardness ? God loves and welcomes the Jews with open arms thru the blood of Jesus Christ ... just as we all would. You dispensationalists can worry about the land. The rest of us will concern ourselves with Christ's gospel.

​YOU are not GOD! God disciplines us all. And yes they will be SAVED by the BLOOD the same as we all are!!!! Just as Romans says!


Quote "The rest of us will concern ourselves with Christ's gospel."

Just not to those vermin in Israel who aren't Jews.They're lost and never have a hope of heaven because they are Christkillers but not the Jewish ones. Ya, you're the righteous ones that care about the lost alright.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

The Levi priesthood is done for a looooooong time. No DNA will change that. The Levitical covenant is done. Its written in the New Testament.

You do realise this has nothing to do with Gods promise to Israel correct?

 

[kaylagrl]

Estimates of Non-Combatant Lives Lost During the Holocaust​

Ukrainians 5.5 - 7 million
Jews (of all countries) 6 million +
Russian POWs 3.3 million +
Russian Civilians 2 million +
Poles 3 million +
Yugoslavians 1.5 million +
Gypsies 200,000 - 500,000
Mentally/Physically Disabled 70,000- 250,000
Homosexuals Tens of thousands
Spanish Republicans Tens of thousands
Jehovah's Witnesses 2,500 - 5,000
Boy and Girl Scouts, Clergy, Communists, Czechs, Deportees, Greeks, Political Prisoners, Other POWs, Resistance Fighters, Serbs, Socialists, Trade Unionists, Others Unknown
Table assembled from figures quoted by Milton; Lukas 38-39, 232; Gilbert 824; Berenbaum 123; and Holocaust Internet information sites.

Numerous factors have contributed to the American public's perception of the Holocaust as an exclusively Jewish event. Recognizing these factors--misinformation, misrepresentation, and political agendas--should be the first step in correcting America's skewed version of Holocaust history. The Holocaust was an event of mass prejudice and abuse of power. It entailed the murdering of many millions of people who were singled out for their differences, whether they be religious, ethnic, physical, political, social or national. Over six million Jewish people were murdered by virtue of their ethnicity and religion, while somewhere between sixteen and twenty million non-Jews were also murdered because they did not fit the homogeneous mold the Nazi regime had selected for the German nation. Consequently, the image of the Holocaust as strictly a Jewish event must be corrected. If not, millions of non-Jews will have died without a record in history, and the Holocaust will never be an accurate portrayal of the actual historical event.

http://www.ukemonde.com/holocaust/victims.html

Anyone who has any knowledge of history knows others were killed along with the Jews.( Who aren't really Jews,too bad Hitler didn't know that.) But the "Final Solution" was about ridding the world of all Jews (who of course weren't Jews) Read" Mein Kempf" Hitler hated Jews. Have you read about Kristallnacht? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kristallnacht

The Jews were the bulls eye. Once they got going with mass murder of the Jews they threw in other "undesirables" which were the beliefs that Margret Sanger used to start an organization called Planed Parenthood. There is no doubt the Jews were Hitlers main target. Those that aided Jews were also murdered. Corrie Ten Boom had an amazing testimony,losing her whole family in concentration camps.Yes,many suffered,many were murdered but Jews were the main target and were wiped out in mass murder and it is a miracle that there is one alive today.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Originally Posted by zone

it's hard to fathom what sort of gospel (?) these ppl hold to.
it's pretty shallow




Thinking that some have a shallow understanding of the gospel hardly equates to condemning them to hell. In all fairness, you accuse her of "hating a group" in this very post .. presumably the dispensationalists and/or Jews ? Am I in my rights to protest you because I'm (one of those who believe like her) ? Sir .. please. If we're going to have this discussion, let's do better than this.

She stated I (and those like me) had a different gospel

How many gospels are there? The fact you would think there is more than one, well that should scare you alot. and make us wonder, which gospels do you think are true gospels. and will allow people into heaven.

As for calling her out. I called her out for condemning a group of people to hell.. If you feel as she does, and think all dispensationals are also going to hell. Then I will call you out either, If not (you like I think this is just a disagreement) then say so. and call her out also. (show you do not take sides)

ps, here and I have a history you know nothing about. so please.. Do better than you are doing by not ASSUMING you know things.

 

[kaylagrl]

Ask Paul:

1. "[Jews] who killed the Lord Jesus and the prophets and also drove us out.

2. They displease God and are hostile to everyone in their effort to keep us from speaking to the Gentiles so that they may be saved.

3. In this way they always heap up their sins to the limit.

4. The wrath of God has come upon them to the end."
1Thess 52:16

Its simply the biblical characteristic of the nation.

Similar to "One of Crete's own prophets has said it: "Cretans are always liars, evil brutes, lazy gluttons." Titus 1:13

Every Jew alive is not culpable for the death of Christ. The Bible says the children do not pay for the sin of their fathers. How is that fair!? I wasn't there but I deserve to be held accountable for the rest of my life? I didn't hold any slaves should I be punished because my ancestors did? Should I be whipped?! Nonsense!! Yes, some of the Jews were responsible for Jesus being crucified. And so was I and so were YOU. Our sin held Him to the cross. He suffered and died for MY sin. So that makes me a Christkiller as much as any Jew. And how can Jews be held responsible for Christs death when the Jews we have left today aren't real Jews? Your argument is circular and ridiculous. Its a pity that satan uses Christians to further his agenda.

 

[kaylagrl]

Ask Paul:

1. "[Jews] who killed the Lord Jesus and the prophets and also drove us out.

2. They displease God and are hostile to everyone in their effort to keep us from speaking to the Gentiles so that they may be saved.

3. In this way they always heap up their sins to the limit.

4. The wrath of God has come upon them to the end."
1Thess 52:16

Its simply the biblical characteristic of the nation.

Similar to "One of Crete's own prophets has said it: "Cretans are always liars, evil brutes, lazy gluttons." Titus 1:13

Quote ""Cretans are always liars, evil brutes, lazy gluttons." Titus 1:13"

​And this means the Jews? Is that what you are saying? Unbelievably racist.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Do you realize that the Old Covenant with Israel was done away with when Christ came with a new covenant?

Do you realise when God promised Abraham a nation (Isreal) and gave them some land, the old covenant was 400 - 500 years from even being established. so the point the old covenant is null and void is meaningless when it comes to Gods promise concerning Israel

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Because God DOES!! And your true colors are finally showing through. There are God hating people all over the world, do you pray for them? Or do you hate them as much as the Jews? What happened to God so loved the world? Not those vermin in Israel though!! I cannot believe what I am hearing!!!! Or that people on a CHRISTIAN site would agree with your hatred. Smh This makes me so angry,just unbelievably full of sorrow and anger. Im so glad I dont serve your god.

They are not all like this,, I am good friends with many brothers and sisters who believe as they do.. But some are like this. and it gets ugly, real fast.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Every Jew alive is not culpable for the death of Christ. The Bible says the children do not pay for the sin of their fathers. How is that fair!? I wasn't there but I deserve to be held accountable for the rest of my life? I didn't hold any slaves should I be punished because my ancestors did? Should I be whipped?! Nonsense!! Yes, some of the Jews were responsible for Jesus being crucified. And so was I and so were YOU. Our sin held Him to the cross. He suffered and died for MY sin. So that makes me a Christkiller as much as any Jew. And how can Jews be held responsible for Christs death when the Jews we have left today aren't real Jews? Your argument is circular and ridiculous. Its a pity that satan uses Christians to further his agenda.

you knw what saddens me, Is they blame the jews for Jesus death.

When in reality, Jesus died because of me, I am to blame. So you are you (and I know you believe this) and so are they (unless they do not believe Jesus needed to die for them)

That is the attitude where preterism or whatever came from anyway, It is all the jews fault, they killed our jesus, so we must hate them, and deny them.

 

[jaybird88]

It doesn't matter what people think it means, all that matters is what the bible says it means.

and the children today . . . .? do you not know? why the dodging?

 

[PennEd]

Every Jew alive is not culpable for the death of Christ. The Bible says the children do not pay for the sin of their fathers. How is that fair!? I wasn't there but I deserve to be held accountable for the rest of my life? I didn't hold any slaves should I be punished because my ancestors did? Should I be whipped?! Nonsense!! Yes, some of the Jews were responsible for Jesus being crucified. And so was I and so were YOU. Our sin held Him to the cross. He suffered and died for MY sin. So that makes me a Christkiller as much as any Jew. And how can Jews be held responsible for Christs death when the Jews we have left today aren't real Jews? Your argument is circular and ridiculous. Its a pity that satan uses Christians to further his agenda.

It goes even further than this sister. OUR sin put Him on that cross, and praise God that the Jews DIDNT ACCEPT their Messiah at that time. Had they then the entire gentile world would be lost with no hope for the redemption of our sin.

 

[jaybird88]

I have not researched it thoroughly, but the Rothschilds are a part of a truly heinous group seizing power by controlling & destabilizing the central banking system. History records Nathan Rothschild:
In 1815, Rothschild made his famous statement: "I care not what puppet is placed upon the throne of England to rule the Empire on which the sun never sets. The man who controls the British money supply controls the British Empire, and I control the British money supply."
And he was correct.

they are truly an evil family. any time a country has hinted of changing its money there is always a war. they have destroyed billions of lives.

I will say this: It will be very easy to turn all countries against Israel when the people believes the Ashkenazis are the "Jews" responsible for the world's problems.

i was thinking the same thing. there have been many problems in the world blamed on the Jews throughout history. common theme with these people . . . . .not people i meant to say scumbags.

 

[plainguy]

Was God an "anti-semite" for His punishment of Israel's repeated waywardness ? God loves and welcomes the Jews with open arms thru the blood of Jesus Christ ... just as we all would. You dispensationalists can worry about the land. The rest of us will concern ourselves with Christ's gospel.

​YOU are not GOD! God disciplines us all. And yes they will be SAVED by the BLOOD the same as we all are!!!! Just as Romans says!


Quote "The rest of us will concern ourselves with Christ's gospel."

Just not to those vermin in Israel who aren't Jews.They're lost and never have a hope of heaven because they are Christkillers but not the Jewish ones. Ya, you're the righteous ones that care about the lost alright.

Do you even bother reading before you reply ? The hope of any Jew (or Gentile), be they in Israel or scattered about remains only in Jesus Christ. The land today has zero to do with "all Israel being saved" or the fulfillment of prophecy. It's not even close to being biblical. Guess that makes me an anti-semite .

 

[stonesoffire]

I haven't read all of this thread but eventually will. Its most interesting to me. What I see in the scriptures is the promise to Abraham of his descendants. He is the father of faith, true, but he also has natural descendants and they exist, both of Isaac and Ishmael.

The body of Christ is spiritual Israel, yet Yeshua is natural Israel too. There is a scripture that says because of the promises to the prophets, the fathers, God will deal with natural Israel too. The time is now.

All kind of miracles are happening in Israel. I just saw a picture of a dust, rain, barrier of some kind of storm hanging in place between Israel and terrorists.

The soldiers tell of miracles...and what really gets my heart is the care that the Hebrews give to the terrorists that are injured as they fight against them.

They call to them that they are half brothers...extending the olive leaf all the time. They truly are different.

 

[kaylagrl]

God's promises to Abraham were unconditional. In fact Abraham was asleep when God made His covenant with him.

The ancient nation of Israel RARELY followed God's laws and precepts. Yet there was always a remnant that remained His, and the nation -state itself lasted centuries before God used gentile nations to punish them even though they mostly didn't follow Him.

BUT, Isaiah 11 tells us that God will regather them a SECOND time before His second coming.

Ah,you brought up the point! Abraham was asleep. God was the only one responsible in the covenant, it was unconditional.