"replacement theology" - what is it?

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I'm not adding, that yoke is mentioned in several places in the bible. You can read about it in Nahum 1 and 2.
That does not mean they are the same yoke. Thats an awful huge assumption. I try not to ASSUME things when I study scripture. that tends to get you into trouble
 
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as per the last two posts.

Israe is still in sin, Why would you, I or anyone else be suprosed by what she is doing?

Does it make you mad? Yeah, Then again, what nation on world is not making us mad right now by what they are doing.

why are we singling out one nation, when all nations are in sin. I'm out again for a while.

This is the cruxt of the issue, and why people call it antisemitism..

You ignore the sins of one nation, and condemn the sin of the other.

I have a roman catholic as one neighbor, and a islamic as the other nighbor. As a child of God I am not in fear. Even if I was to be harrased or suffer tribulation, I was never promised there would never be tribulation in my life. nor were the palestinian christians.


Christians are being beheaded by islam as we speak. What about the ooutcry against them?
It disgust me that Christians support Israel killing and taking land from Palestinians.
 
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The point would not have been lost on his Jewish 1st century readers, as the Amalakites (Edomites) were the vilest term in the Hebrew lexicon, having attacked Israel in a terrorist style ambush when they first came out of Egypt.

Egypt Israel Esau

all referred to in Romans 9
 

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When the fulness of the gentiles are come in, I'm pretty sure the milennium starts. What happens then, I don't know, the Lord hasn't shown me much about the milennium so I can't say what will happen then.
there is no future millennium.
done. easy.
the millennium is a by-product of having to find something to do with the fact the "jews shall never enter the church"...
 

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I hope we can hang on til the stench of the current administration is removed and a true pro-Israel President steps in:

[h=2]President-elect Donald J. Trump demanded that President Barack Obama veto a UN Security Council resolution to be voted on Thursday that would declare Israeli settlements across the 1949 armistice line — i.e. in the West Bank — to be illegal.[/h]The Obama administration has hinted that it would not veto a resolution authored by the Palestinians and brought to the Security Council by Egypt, which currently holds a rotating seat. As Breitbart News reported last week, several other countries were also considering various resolutions aimed at declaring Israeli settlements illegal. These resolutions would isolate Israel, embolden the Palestinians, and legitimize the anti-Israel boycott, divestment, and sanctions (BDS) movement.
Trump issued the following statement from Palm Beach, Florida:
The resolution being considered at the United Nations Security Council regarding Israel should be vetoed.
As the United States has long maintained, peace between the Israelis and the Palestinians will only come through direct negotiations between the parties, and not through the imposition of terms by the United Nations.
This puts Israel in a very poor negotiating position and is extremely unfair to all Israelis.
Trump also tweeted the statement.

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Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump


The resolution being considered at the United Nations Security Council regarding Israel should be vetoed....cont: https://www.facebook.com/DonaldTrump/posts/10158338539250725 …
8:37 AM - 22 Dec 2016









Israel does not consider most of the settlements illegal — except wildcat settlements set up in violation of Israeli law — since there is no prior legal sovereign in the West Bank (which Israelis refer to as Judea and Samaria). Much of the area was to have been an Arab state according to a UN plan passed in 1947, but the surrounding Arab states went to war against Israel, and Jordan occupied the territory until 1967. The Palestinians consider all Israeli development across the 1949 armistice line — including in East Jerusalem, which was annexed by Israel shortly after winning the Six Day War in 1967 — to be illegal.
The Obama administration has adopted a version of the Palestinian position on the issue, referring to Jewish neighborhoods in Jerusalem that happen to be across the “Green Line” as “settlements.”
Trump has promised to move the U.S. embassy in Israel from the coastal city of Tel Aviv — where most western embassies are — to West Jerusalem, which is entirely on sovereign Israeli territory and is home to the Israeli Knesset (parliament), the High Court, and much of Israel’s national government.
Israel considers both East and West Jerusalem to be one city. The Old City is on the eastern side, and was off-limits to Jews during the period of Jordanian occupation, which also saw the ancient Jewish neighborhood of the city largely destroyed.
Trump’s nominee for U.S. Ambassador to Israel, David Friedman, reportedly favors the Israeli position.
According to NBC News, Israel’s UN Ambassador Danny Danon said: “It is absurd that at a time when thousands are being massacred in Syria, the Security Council is devoting time and energy to convene and discuss condemning the only true democracy in the Middle East.”
In the past, the U.S. has vetoed such resolutions at the Security Council, but the lame-duck Obama administration has suggested it will not do so, in a parting shot at the government of Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu — and at Trump.
 
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That is exactly what Paul says in Romans 9 EG

Esau represents unregenerate Israelite children of the flesh
Paul said no such thing, All he did was prove that Jacob was but chosen because of her righteousnes, but she was chosen before she was even born.

if you all want to spiritualise everything and you feel ok about that, Feel free.

But me, I refuse to spirtualise Gods holy word in order to make it fit my belief system. I take him at his word.
 

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That is exactly what Paul says in Romans 9 EG

Esau represents unregenerate Israelite children of the flesh
so does allegorical Hagar (Gal 4) represent the children of the flesh
 
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Oh dear EG

These are types and shadows. Examples. Illustrations. References.

Paul doesn't mention them because God told him to write 10,000 words, and not a word less.
 
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there is no future millennium.
done. easy.
the millennium is a by-product of having to find something to do with the fact the "jews shall never enter the church"...
Yep. God is a liar

And again, Like your buddy KJV, you make a useless argument, For as you think the only reason it came was to keep Isreal out of the church (which NO dispensation person would ever agree with, because MANY MANY jews have been made a part of the church, and many more will)

it can be said you reject a millenium, because you do not wish Isreal as a nation to REPENT and be restored..

ie,, Niether can be proven, and it does nothing to add to the argument.
 
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there is no future millennium.
done. easy.
the millennium is a by-product of having to find something to do with the fact the "jews shall never enter the church"...
You should do a thread on that and let's vet it out... you may be right.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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Oh dear EG

These are types and shadows. Examples. Illustrations. References.

Paul doesn't mention them because God told him to write 10,000 words, and not a word less.
Thats your view. It is not mine. If you want to believe that, Feel free.. Do not judge others who reject this type of thinking. Like a few others in here are doing, ok??

 
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You should do a thread on that and let's vet it out... you may be right.

Yep just what we need, ANOTHER of the many many threads on the same subject.

It will be like this one.. Useless


Your not going to change my mind, I am not going to change yours. so why bother?
 
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In Isaac shall thy seed be called

The seed is called Israel btw

Isaac had two sons, Jacob and Esau

Jacob got the promise

Jacob was renamed Israel

They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed.

SO ISRAEL = CHILDREN OF THE PROMISE

ESAU = CHILDREN OF THE FLESH
 
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Yep just what we need, ANOTHER of the many many threads on the same subject.

It will be like this one.. Useless


Your not going to change my mind, I am not going to change yours. so why bother?
I learn all kinds of neat stuff in these conversations. I'm not trying to convince anyone of anything, I do this for my benefit and hopefully someone will see the truth. Only God can heal the blind, I cant.
 
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In Isaac shall thy seed be called

The seed is called Israel btw

Isaac had two sons, Jacob and Esau

Jacob got the promise

Jacob was renamed Israel

They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed.

SO ISRAEL = CHILDREN OF THE PROMISE

ESAU = CHILDREN OF THE FLESH
Esau represents flesh Israel and Israel represents spiritual israel.
 

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a future nation to spring from Ishmael, from Sarah’s Egyptian handmaid.
the angel of the Eternal had said to Hagar:

“He will be a wild man; his hand will be against every man and every man’s hand
against him; and he shall dwell to the east of all his brethren” (Genesis 16:12).

-Ishmael’s descendants were to become a great nation. the birthright nations
were to be greater, they were to dwell to the east of their brethren (Isaac)

The children of Ishmael have become the Arabs of today.
 

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Isaac had twin sons, Esau and Jacob. Esau was the firstborn

And the first came out red, all over like an hairy garment;
and they called his name Esau.

And after that came his brother out,and his hand took
hold on Esau's heel; and his name was called Jacob

The Eternal said to Rebekah,regarding Esau and Jacob,
that they were the beginning of two nations

“two manner of people, one shall be stronger than other
“and the elder shall serve the younger”(Genesis 25:23).

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And Esau said to Jacob, Feed me with that same red pottage
for I am faint: therefore was his name called Edom.”

And Jacob said, Swear to me this day; and he sware unto him
and he sold his birthright unto Jacob.
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the name Edom refer to the descendants of Esau,
primarily the Turkish nation today.

Jacob tricked Esaus and took his father’s blessing,
so Isaac blessed Jacob” (verses 21-23).

Therefore God give thee (Jacob) of the dew of heaven
and the fatness of the earth, and plenty of corn and wine
increase and possession]: Let people serve thee, and
nations bow down to thee: be lord over thy brethren

and let thy mother’s sons bow down to thee: cursed be every one that
curseth thee, and blessed be he that blesseth thee” Gen 27:26-29

Isaac kinda cursed Esau,“Behold,thy dwelling shall be away
from the fatness of the earth,the dew of heaven from above;

And by thy sword shalt thou live,shalt serve thy brother;

and it shall come to pass when thou shalt have the dominion
that thou shalt break his yoke from off thy neck. --future event,
And Esau hated Jacob …” (verses 39-41).

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The children of Israel, through sin, were driven out
of the Promised Land that belonged with the birthright.

The Turks came to power and dominion and for many centuries
possessed that land. Those descendants, the Turkish people,
occupied Palestine 400 years before Britain took it in 1917.