Respect for others Bible based beliefs

[Tommy4Christ]

I see in here, (the Bible Forum), a tendency to make fun of other's bible based beliefs.
The tendency is to poke fun instead of address.
It would be better to address using scripture instead of making fun of them.
Not one place in the Word is a saint found belittling another fellow believer's doctrine.
Jesus lambasted the pharisees, but of course they first accused Him of being a devil.
Elijah mocked the false prophets but they were cutting themselves and calling on other gods.
There is a spirit behind it. - (Mocking other christian's beliefs.)
Be careful what spirit you speak from, because it might not be the right one.
(I ram people all the time, but that is for misstatements and calling out others, not for their bible beliefs.)
It's so easy to fall back into the premise that you are always right.
What if you aren't? How will you ever receive correction?
How can you know, if you continually sit in the seat of the scorner?

Speaking the truth in love isn't making fun of others doctrines, the profits and apostles were constantly stand firm in the truth, not being tolerant of false doctrine, as stressed in my posts, many are under the spirit of error, and refuse to be corrected or even look beyond their favorite reformed teacher who promotes pagan teachings such as OS.

We are commanded to contend earnestly for the faith, not be tolerant of all the false doctrines many try to sell here on these forums.

Those who are led by the spirit of truth will be called names, proud, arrogant, self righteous, but so be it, IF a few wake up, seek the truth with all their heart and soul, they will clearly see the error of their ways!

We all cant be right here, there is only one truth, so if we all agree to disagree, then nothing happens, no strongholds are broken down, and the lukewarm Christian stays lukewarm and in error.

I include allot of scripture with what I send, and many resources for the truth seeker to look into, as we are to respect the word of God, hold it to a high standard, and correct and admonish as commanded those who persist in false doctrine.

2Ti 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
2Ti 3:17 That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.

Is standing firm in the truth, correcting error mocking? especially when these errors lead down the road to perdition?

 

[rauleetoe]

Speaking the truth in love isn't making fun of others doctrines, the profits and apostles were constantly stand firm in the truth, not being tolerant of false doctrine, as stressed in my posts, many are under the spirit of error, and refuse to be corrected or even look beyond their favorite reformed teacher who promotes pagan teachings such as OS.

We are commanded to contend earnestly for the faith, not be tolerant of all the false doctrines many try to sell here on these forums.

Those who are led by the spirit of truth will be called names, proud, arrogant, self righteous, but so be it, IF a few wake up, seek the truth with all their heart and soul, they will clearly see the error of their ways!

We all cant be right here, there is only one truth, so if we all agree to disagree, then nothing happens, no strongholds are broken down, and the lukewarm Christian stays lukewarm and in error.

I include allot of scripture with what I send, and many resources for the truth seeker to look into, as we are to respect the word of God, hold it to a high standard, and correct and admonish as commanded those who persist in false doctrine.

2Ti 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
2Ti 3:17 That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.

Is standing firm in the truth, correcting error mocking? especially when these errors lead down the road to perdition?

By all means take a stand..bu when doing so, be civil,loving and without alterior motives(not implying you are, but i have met those who's underlying motive is rather evident)
So long as all things are done in love and with the right motive..regarding what you said about there being one truth..you do mean one christian truth correct? Some here equate being a baptist the truth..being reform/calvinist the truth, going to their particular denomination and doing and praying how they pray the truth..one must be carefull that you convey and communicate all these things in love, with the right heart(not saying you are not, just saying for the sake of the argument) and in all non salvic/not salvation dependent matters..we can agree to disagree, after all it says in several parts of the writings of timothy that the servant of God is not to be arguementative.
State your case,with conviction..and civilly, do not go on accusing others of things they have never said (as some have done so on here quite often) and truly hear that which the other person is saying..if you are curious..ask why they believe it. Do not fall into the trap that some do, which is play word games and point the accusing finger,which is not of God..i believe the accuser is called the Devil. We being spiritual should seek to be more like God and far less like the devil. Just saying..

 

[RickyZ]

My experience is to not take anything too seriously simply because forums are, for the most part, tone-neutral. This was the original purpose of adding the emoticons. Smiley Faces and emoticons are used to show emotions in text.

My opinion (take it or leave it) is to allow the administrators to their job of moderating and the rest of us have fun.

Oh contraire these forums are NOT tone nuetral. That's the whole point of this thread... people sharing their beliefs and understandings in judgmental and offensive tones. Humans don't like to think they could be wrong and take offense at anything that implies they are; funny thing is it's the attitude that says 'but I could be wrong' that leads to the fuller understanding.

 

[Grandpa]

Oh contraire these forums are NOT tone nuetral. That's the whole point of this thread... people sharing their beliefs and understandings in judgmental and offensive tones. Humans don't like to think they could be wrong and take offense at anything that implies they are; funny thing is it's the attitude that says 'but I could be wrong' that leads to the fuller understanding.

How dare you.

Do you know who I am??

j/k. I've just always wanted to say that...

 

[Precious_Sunflower]

Sadly it is mostly built upon the prejudices of some who are unaware that some of other expressions might actually be saved! I have been called sinner,works oriented,catholic(i am not catholic),pridefull(because i believe God helps us live for him,and we are without excuse for not doing so),and even a goat by those who's theological position i rejected and disagreed with..
So, sadly that is what you get here on CC. Get used to it..things won't change..

I have experienced this also among Christian people outside of this forum too. Lately I am more focused on studying the bible more as well as checking out with Scripture when there is so called modern revivals and new age inviting things that many modern churches are very busy about nowadays as well as welcoming it in into their churches 'cause of it being hip and spicying up their faith, or making it seem a lot more exciting for themselves as well as more mystical.

It is very typical that if you try looking at the bible yourself as well as living by the Word each day, others that doesn't and prefers listening to their leaders more than learning what the bible truly says, these people will easily judge you for being a fool as well as being misled from God, because how come that you do not listen to whatever so called leaders tell you and then just take it as a complete truth? Why look it up yourself, and why bother at all whether everything a leader says doesn't have any Scriptural references to it?

We were also warned in the bible to test who are prophets of God and who are not. As well as testing whether there is bad fruits or good fruits in a church, as there will come many that aren't of God and mislead many away from the real truth. It is important that we remain in Christ's love as well as discerning what is truly from God as well. Most of all, the way of seeing this is also to look at what the bible says. When I go to a church, I think it is also important when a pastor preaches that he also has Scriptural backing up's for what sermon he has chosen to having. I have seen or heard about pastors that says something that doesn't even is Scriptural, and then to see that people of the church seeing this as true as well as coming from God. Because nowadays you can easily say that everything you get is from the Holy Spirit, and everyone else will accept it as being from God.

 

[RickyZ]

How dare you.

Do you know who I am??

j/k. I've just always wanted to say that...

You're the great and powerful Oz, standing behind the curtain..!

 

[crossnote]

I hear the call for joviality, even frivolity, seeing as Bible subjects are serious.
How about this:
Have a Bible forum for serious posts, and have another for cut and paste romper room antics.
One for scripture, another for funland in bibleschool.
How about that?
A forum for scripture, another for hyperbole.
That way the gears don't get bogged down either way.
On the one hand you have honest, earnest debate; on the other you have.......joyland, toyland, every girl and boy land.
How 'bout that?

see long an honest earnest debate lasts without a little humor before there's name calling, bitterness and one upmanship. A little humor lightens the load.

 

[sabaqtani7]

You know I'll tell the OP, I agree that one's beliefs should not be bashed. Simply because, and this is big for me, words can be misconstrued beyond what the person's spirit intended those words to mean.

I believe that sin is pointless, but inevitable. Nobody can totally abstain from it because nobody has that kind of control over their mind. So I can never, ever be better than anyone else. Which brings me onto oneness and equality. Jesus way of showing it was washing his disciples feet. Not to mention dying for those who killed him!

So then, in all this is where I based my belief.

Jesus told man 'Love thy God, and the second is like unto it, alove thy neighbour as thyself'.

Those two commandments are inseparable. And love is all the things which are good. Patience, kindness, humility, restraint of anger, charity, meekness, etc.

Without these things, words stand or fail. Actions stand or fail.

My reason for not sinning, is not for a place in heaven then. Or for my salvation. Because Jesus already gave me those. It's simply for this; because there is no point. What is the alternative to love? Hate! And what would the world be without love? It would be horrible.

So then, I don't do things for a place in heaven, I do them because of this question; what benefit does the alternative give? When all is said and done, I realised many years ago that violence, oppression, hatred, envy, greed, corruption, spite, anger and jealousy are all pointless things.

Which one of them will survive into heaven? Within any of us?

 

[Grandpa]

You're the great and powerful Oz, standing behind the curtain..!

At least you didn't say I was the scarecrow...

I guess I'll take that as a compliment!!!

Thanks RickyZ!!

I was just thinking of that Oz analogy and it made me think of some charismatic churches I had been to for some reason. I wonder why that would be??

 

[RickShafer]

see long an honest earnest debate lasts without a little humor before there's name calling, bitterness and one upmanship. A little humor lightens the load.

But is this not because of hardness?
Can rational people actually carry on a debate without trivializing each other?

 

[RickShafer]

Rick...I'm just so sorry that I offended you.

I hope you will forgive me, for I certainly took part.
If we sometimes get too childish (as opposed to child-like)
and don't take the topic as seriously as you'd wish,
you have only to speak to us about it.

I think most folks would 'hear' you.
love,
ellie

Psychomom,
I was never offended by you.
I don't think anyone here was ever offended by you.
It's funny that the least offensive person on this site would offer an apology.
(Now, .....please don't apologize that you thought that I was offended by you but really wasn't.)

 

[Ariel82]

Psychomom,
I was never offended by you.
I don't think anyone here was ever offended by you.
It's funny that the least offensive person on this site would offer an apology.
(Now, .....please don't apologize that you thought that I was offended by you but really wasn't.)

Lol where i on the other hand apologize 4 nothing and attempt to be as aggravating as possible. Is it working big brother?

 

[RickShafer]

You never offended me either Areal Assault.
You post things as they should be, from the heart.
I was addressing a certain frame of mind,... that shifts serious discussion to cartoons.

 

[Abiding]

You never offended me either Areal Assault.
You post things as they should be, from the heart.
I was addressing a certain frame of mind,... that shifts serious discussion to cartoons.

I just knew someday someone would start a thread about me.

 

[RickShafer]

Hey Abiding, I love your cartoons.
If I had any one to post cartoons in the middle of a serious subject I'd choose you,
because you are both funny and apropos.
Nice to make contact again my friend.

 

[Ariel82]

You never offended me either Areal Assault.
.

I DON"T!!!!

awww shucks...

just have to try harder then.


whats the points of siblings if you can't aggravate them once in a while?

 

[zone]

But is this not because of hardness?
Can rational people actually carry on a debate without trivializing each other?

can we trivialize irrational ppl?
is that your out, rick?

don't take yourself so seriously.

 

[RickShafer]

can we trivialize irrational ppl?
is that your out, rick?

don't take yourself so seriously.

My out?
I don't have an out.
Don't take others so frivolously Zone.


Let me chime in for you : (Oh, puuleeeze) - There, I was condescending for you.

 

[crossnote]

But is this not because of hardness?
Can rational people actually carry on a debate without trivializing each other?

Perhaps but there are no background checks at the doors.

 

[zone]

My out?
I don't have an out.
Don't take others so frivolously Zone.
Let me chime in for you : (Oh, puuleeeze) - There, I was condescending for you.

hey come on....it's like this:

"Oh, puurleeeze"



there's an R in it...but the emoticon placement is flexible.

carry on Rickster.
s'all good.