Retire the Ten Commandments?

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preston39

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Your error:
We are not now in ANY law-works economy. Jesus fulfilled the law for us. We exist in a state of Grace through Faith.

You are mixing apples with oranges.
Jesus on the cross made ....grace...available for our sin forgiveness.

The Lord's prayer includes..."forgive us of our trespasses as we forgive those..."
If there is no law why would we need that?

The law is clearly present which we must abide by.
 
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Grandpa

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You are mixing apples with oranges.
Jesus on the cross made ....grace...available for our sin forgiveness.
If there is no law why would we need that?

The law is clearly present which we must abide by.
If you aren't presently sacrificing animals how do you get around it?

Do you just not understand what the poster that you responded to said?
 

preston39

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timed out......

Why does G-d give us unlimited times we be forgiven of our sins?
Not needed if we are not under His law/commandments.

There are many more.
 

Grandpa

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timed out......

Why does G-d give us unlimited times we be forgiven of our sins?
Not needed if we are not under His law/commandments.

There are many more.
Romans 14:23 And he that doubteth is damned if he eat, because he eateth not of faith: for whatsoever is not of faith is sin.

Whatsoever is not of Faith is sin.

That covers a lot doesn't it? Seems like His Forgiveness is still needed even when we AREN'T under the law/ 10 c's.

Thank God for His Mercy.
 

preston39

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Romans 14:23 And he that doubteth is damned if he eat, because he eateth not of faith: for whatsoever is not of faith is sin.

Whatsoever is not of Faith is sin.

That covers a lot doesn't it? Seems like His Forgiveness is still needed even when we AREN'T under the law/ 10 c's.

Thank God for His Mercy.

You can't spin an answer into faith...that stands alone...so does this point.
 

preston39

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Romans 14:23 And he that doubteth is damned if he eat, because he eateth not of faith: for whatsoever is not of faith is sin.

Whatsoever is not of Faith is sin.

That covers a lot doesn't it? Seems like His Forgiveness is still needed even when we AREN'T under the law/ 10 c's.

Thank God for His Mercy.

Forgiveness of what?
Sin is defined by scripture as a violation of G-d's commandments.
 

Grandpa

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Forgiveness of what?
Sin is defined by scripture as a violation of G-d's commandments.
Sin is ALSO DEFINED as whatsoever is NOT OF FAITH.

When a person does something that is NOT OF FAITH then they have ALSO "violated" the commandments. Or sinned.

Romans 3:31 Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.
 

cv5

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You are mixing apples with oranges.
Jesus on the cross made ....grace...available for our sin forgiveness.

The Lord's prayer includes..."forgive us of our trespasses as we forgive those..."
If there is no law why would we need that?

The law is clearly present which we must abide by.
https://biblehub.net/search.php?q=law*of*Christ

1 Cor 9:21
"To those without the law I became like one without the law (though I am not outside the law of God but am under the law of Christ), to win those without the law."
 

preston39

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Sin is ALSO DEFINED as whatsoever is NOT OF FAITH.

When a person does something that is NOT OF FAITH then they have ALSO "violated" the commandments. Or sinned.

Romans 3:31 Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.

LOL...that is a sin ...not to have faith!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

cv5

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I see no humor relating to G-d's work.
Anybody who uses the term G-d is usually of the British Israelism or similar bogus Churches. Paul uses the term "God". There is no reason for us do otherwise.

Get out of whatever Church you are in and go to one orthodox and legitimate.
 

preston39

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Anybody who uses the term G-d is usually of the British Israelism or similar bogus Churches. Paul uses the term "God". There is no reason for us do otherwise.

Get out of whatever Church you are in go orthodox and legitimate.


That's funny...LOL
 

cv5

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LOL...that is a sin ...not to have faith!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
So what OT law is it that you constantly refer to as being binding?

Gal 2:15

“We are Jews by nature and not sinners from among the Gentiles; nevertheless knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the Law but through faith in Christ Jesus, even we have believed in Christ Jesus, so that we may be justified by faith in Christ and not by the works of the Law; since by the works of the Law no flesh will be justified."
 

preston39

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So what OT law is it that you constantly refer to as being binding?

Gal 2:15

“We are Jews by nature and not sinners from among the Gentiles; nevertheless knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the Law but through faith in Christ Jesus, even we have believed in Christ Jesus, so that we may be justified by faith in Christ and not by the works of the Law; since by the works of the Law no flesh will be justified."

Where did i say OT law?
 

Wall

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Somethin to think about

REV.14 [9] And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand,[10] The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:

above scripture sign – hand - forehead (between the eyes) - cup of indignation – the bad guys
below scriptures sign – hand - between thine eyes (forehead) - the LORDS LAW – the good guys

DEUT.6 [2] That thou mightest fear the LORD thy God, to keep all his statutes and HIS COMMANDMENTS, which I command thee, thou, and thy son, and thy son's son, all the days of thy life; and that thy days may be prolonged.[3] Hear therefore, O Israel, and observe to do it; that it may be well with thee, and that ye may increase mightily, as the LORD God of thy fathers hath promised thee, in the land that floweth with milk and honey.[4]Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD: [5]And thou shalt love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might. [6]And these words, which I command thee this day, shall be in thine heart: [7]And thou shalt teach them diligently unto thy children, and shalt talk of them when thou sittest in thine house, and when thou walkest by the way, and when thou liest down, and when thou risest up. [8]And thou shalt bind them for A SIGN UPON THINE HAND, and they shall be as FRONTLETS BETWEEN THINE EYES.

EXOD.13 [9] And it shall be for a SIGN unto thee UPON THINE HAND, and for A MEMORIAL BETWEEN THINE EYES, that the LORD's LAW may be in thy mouth: for with a strong hand hath the LORD brought thee out of Egypt.
 

Wall

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timed out......

Why does G-d give us unlimited times we be forgiven of our sins?
Not needed if we are not under His law/commandments.

There are many more.
Agreed.

1 JOHN 3 [4] Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for SIN IS THE TRANSGRESSION OF THE LAW.

JOHN 5 [11] He answered them, He that made me whole, the same said unto me, Take up thy bed, and walk. [12] Then asked they him, What man is that which said unto thee, Take up thy bed, and walk?[13] And he that was healed wist not who it was: for Jesus had conveyed himself away, a multitude being in that place.[14] Afterward Jesus findeth him in the temple, and said unto him, BEHOLD, THOU ART MADE WHOLE: SIN NO MORE, LEST A WORSE THING COME UNTO THEE.