Revelation 13.13
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I would say yes without parables the signified tongue of God Christ spoke not .And especially in a book when the kind of language that will guide the interpretation is signified. You could say inspired parables .
Revelation 1 King James Version (KJV) The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John:
Chapter 20 is clearly one continuous parable filled with metaphors (keys cains oits serpents thousand years, beheaded souls...)We are to use the temporal thing seen to give us His unseen gospel unstanding.
2 Corinthians 4:18 While we look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen: for the things which are seen are temporal; but the things which are not seen are eternal.
Sorry hope this helps.
We are informed that all the work of creating to include the new heavens and earth not seen was performed in 6 days before he rested on the 7th eternally.
Note …( my added opinion to help make a point).
Genesis 2 King James Version (KJV) Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them. And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made. And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made. These are the generations (plural) of the heavens and of the earth when they (plural) were created, in the day that the Lord God made the earth and the heavens,
One seen the corrupted we live in. The other just over the horizon of time under the sun the incorruptible.
We are informed that all the work of creating to include the new heavens and earth not seen was performed in 6 days before he rested on the 7th eternally.
Note …( my added opinion to help make a point).
Genesis 2 King James Version (KJV) Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them. And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made. And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made. These are the generations (plural) of the heavens and of the earth when they (plural) were created, in the day that the Lord God made the earth and the heavens,
One seen the corrupted we live in. The other just over the horizon of time under the sun the incorruptible.
No.
The beast with 7 heads and 10 horns and having features like different kinds of animals is clearly an allegory.
Or is it an accurate facial and bodily description of how the antichrist man will actually look?
If yes then he must literally crawl out from the sea or else there is no fulfillment.
Are we really to interpret the description of the 1st beast like this? The answer is that these things are clearly allegorical, but hold real meaning.
On the other hand, verses that tell us the actions of the beast like killing the saints, and deceiving many... these are literal. Yet, not many details are given on how exactly these actions/events will unfold, but some details are given. For example some description is given about two specific false miracles. First is the “fire from heaven in front of the people” and the second is ”the image that speaks and breathes”. But not very much detail is given and so how literal are we to be in our interpretation of these things?
Lets focus on the Rev 13:13 fire coming down from heaven. I believe this is to be interpreted as a literal event, but how literal are we to be in its recognition and interpretation is not clear? Nonetheless the Spirit has to aid in the correct interpretation. Without the Spirit correct interpretation is impossible.
Here is the most important point I want to make. I believe the “fire from heaven false miracle” cannot be correctly interpreted until AFTER it has HAPPENED.
Unfortunately, some insist and many believe that it must be interpreted ultra-literally to the point where we can foretell the exact event and thereby outline all that is needed for it to be fulfilled.
Here are all the qualifications for ultra-literal fulfillment:
But then also you have people on the other extreme that muddy the waters even further and push people to this ultra-literal interpretation by proposing such ridiculous and baseless things like Rev 13:13 being fulfilled by extra-terrestrials as depicted in the movie “The Fire In The Sky”. or why not by Franklin Delano Roosevelt and his Fireside Chats, etc....
Most Revelation interpretations are not guided by the Spirit, they are guided by the evil one.
HE has so muddied the waters that that all rational, intellectual,and Spirit-let discussion between fellow brothers has been shut down.
The beast with 7 heads and 10 horns and having features like different kinds of animals is clearly an allegory.
Or is it an accurate facial and bodily description of how the antichrist man will actually look?
If yes then he must literally crawl out from the sea or else there is no fulfillment.
Are we really to interpret the description of the 1st beast like this? The answer is that these things are clearly allegorical, but hold real meaning.
On the other hand, verses that tell us the actions of the beast like killing the saints, and deceiving many... these are literal. Yet, not many details are given on how exactly these actions/events will unfold, but some details are given. For example some description is given about two specific false miracles. First is the “fire from heaven in front of the people” and the second is ”the image that speaks and breathes”. But not very much detail is given and so how literal are we to be in our interpretation of these things?
Lets focus on the Rev 13:13 fire coming down from heaven. I believe this is to be interpreted as a literal event, but how literal are we to be in its recognition and interpretation is not clear? Nonetheless the Spirit has to aid in the correct interpretation. Without the Spirit correct interpretation is impossible.
Here is the most important point I want to make. I believe the “fire from heaven false miracle” cannot be correctly interpreted until AFTER it has HAPPENED.
Unfortunately, some insist and many believe that it must be interpreted ultra-literally to the point where we can foretell the exact event and thereby outline all that is needed for it to be fulfilled.
Here are all the qualifications for ultra-literal fulfillment:
- it must be a stream of fire as if coming from a flame-thrower that originates from the heavens and comes all the way down to the surface of the earth.
- If the fire comes down most of the way to the ground, but not all the way to the ground, then it does not qualify.
- If the fire come from high in the sky, but not all the way from Heaven itself, then it does not qualify.
- It must be performed on behalf of a single man that is a religious figure and he must wave his hands and call to the heavens the very moment that these flames come down, or else it does not qualify.
- If it is orchestrated by multiple people, or a group or institution, it does not qualify.
- If it is accomplished by a woman, or through children, then it does not qualify.
- And he can't just be any male religious figure, he must be the head figure of a one world global religion in full cooperation with a one world global government, otherwise it does not qualify.
- And if he does not bring fire down while standing on the very steps of the 3rd temple in Jerusalem, it does not qualify.
- And if it does not happen within 7 yrs of Chirst's returns, it does not qualify.
- Some might even stipulate that it must happen within 3.5 yrs of Christ's return, or it does not qualify.
- And then how many people must be present for it to qualify? Is it 100? is it 1000? does it have to be at least 1/3 of the world's population? Or maybe it must be the entire world's population or otherwise it does not qualify?
- Some might insist that All people on earth must see it or be made aware of it or else it does not qualify.
- Some may also insist that this event will be unmistakable to all, otherwise it does not qualify.
- And finally not one single verse following Rev 13:13 can be fulfilling until after all these things have happened in exactly this way.
- Finally, any other interpretation is be labeled allegorical and to be immediately discarded.
But then also you have people on the other extreme that muddy the waters even further and push people to this ultra-literal interpretation by proposing such ridiculous and baseless things like Rev 13:13 being fulfilled by extra-terrestrials as depicted in the movie “The Fire In The Sky”. or why not by Franklin Delano Roosevelt and his Fireside Chats, etc....
Most Revelation interpretations are not guided by the Spirit, they are guided by the evil one.
HE has so muddied the waters that that all rational, intellectual,and Spirit-let discussion between fellow brothers has been shut down.
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I believe rev 13 is the story that Jesus told in matt 24
9 Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake.
Verse 9 start happen since apostle time but It Will get TI G worse and worse till great tribulation.
Now persecution happen but not so bad and Will be
21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
The persecution Will be so bad , never happen before and not in the future, I believe It is talking about persecution for Christian, non Christian Will suffer persecution in hell in the future.
Rev 13
10 He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints.
That make me believe Christian Will go to tribulation not Pre rapture
9 Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake.
Verse 9 start happen since apostle time but It Will get TI G worse and worse till great tribulation.
Now persecution happen but not so bad and Will be
21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
The persecution Will be so bad , never happen before and not in the future, I believe It is talking about persecution for Christian, non Christian Will suffer persecution in hell in the future.
Rev 13
10 He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints.
That make me believe Christian Will go to tribulation not Pre rapture