Rock Music - It Kills - Another good & informative article by Terry Watkins

[ChosenbyHim]

EEEEEWWWWW New Age music gives me the creeps. I was talking about stuff like Kenny G and Chuck Mangione.

Well I could understand why New Age music seems creepy to you. My mother was into that kind of music. And so as I grew up, I was exposed to it a lot. Especially to the music of Vangelis. Although his music is considered more electronic if anything.

Okay, I know of Kenny G. In that case; it's debatable. I mean if a man and his wife decide they want to listen to Kenny G, then that's their call. But yeah I see your point, even music with with no lyrical content can be questionable. And again, that just shows you the power of music.

 

[ChosenbyHim]

You state that,but what is it based on by who and what?

Lots of studies. It has been said that the musical works of Mozart and Beethoven have been quite famous for increasing mental function. Also, various studies that have been done have shown that a person's IQ raises by 3 to 5 points after listening to Classical Music.


One of these studies was done in 1993 by Dr. Gordan Shaw of the University of California. What he found was that a temporary spike in IQ in college students occurred after they listened to Mozart. In this study, the control groups which listened to other music or no music at all experienced no change. Shortly after this study followed headlines saying: "Mozart's Music makes You Smarter." So while the study did show that classical music can boost cognitive function; Gordan Shaw emphasized that Mozart music did not make people permanently smarter but that it would work to help and benefit the part of the brain that deals in abstract thought.


Another study that was done on Classical Music was by Dr. Kevin Labar of Duke University claimed that Classical Music can improve your intellectual performance. And what he found in his study was that Classical Music can produce a calming effect by releasing dopamine and inhibiting the release of stress hormones. Which in turn, generates a pleasant mood. And Kevin Labar stated that: "And inducing a pleasant mood, seems to clarify thinking." He also stated though that Classical music was not the only way to enhance relaxation.


Also in some of the studies out there, they found that punk rock music decreased the IQ level. Due to the fact that punk rock music is generally chaotic in nature, therefore it has a degenerative effect on the brain. Plus, they also said that chaotic music like punk rock just isn't rhythmic and melodic like Classical music is.

Sure it does,it may not be based on the rhythm but one can sure end up in the same place. Do you honestly think that when men put on a candle lit dinner,with that oh so romantic music,that they are not APPEALING to the flesh? Do you honestly think guys would keep doing it if it didn't work?

Well no; I belief it would be appealing to the flesh also. I see your point there. I know that music from Berry White and Kenny G, and other music similar to that, like R&B would appeal to the flesh. But especially rock & roll. I mean think of the spirit that is behind that music. The very term "rock & roll" means fornication in the backseat of a car. And I am sure there is a lot of fornication and promiscuity going on backstage after those rock & roll concerts get done.

According to who? And by what standards? What are you basing it on?

Just basing it on the fact that rhythm relates to the Body and to the flesh. And that music is not neutral. Music will effect you. And music like rock and roll or even techno and other heavy dance type of music where rhythm is emphasized over harmony and melody, can lead a person to live in sin. Bryan Denlinger had did a sermon series on the Devil and Music. I highly recommend you to check it out and listen to both sermons. It was a really good sermon series on Music. In the series, he goes into some of the history of rock & roll music. He also recommends some books to read on the issue. One of them is called Inside Rock Music. Some other books he mentioned were: The Devil's Disciples, Dancing with Demons, and What's Wrong with Christian Rock.

Again if you listen to enough Aerosmith it's in their lyrics also.

Well yeah that's true. But even music alone without the lyrics is so powerful that it can have the same effects with or without the lyrics.

• Take your pick of whatever music you want to there is always a tie into music that is very similar to the world's music. Because if you're going to use that the music is somewhat the same you better get rid of all of your Beethoven,Bach and many others because they wrote BOTH worldly music and church music. You can not pick and choose that way and appear to be a hypocrite. Did they also all conform to this world or do you just pick and choose to fit your brand of Christianity?

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Well some types of music are debatable. And for those that are debatable, discernment and prayer helps.

Plus, with music from Bach, or Beethoven, or Mozart, ask yourself this Sarah, can their music be edifying or expedient? Can it help your testimony with the Lost? That is when they see that you like this classical music? That you enjoy listening to this kind of music.

First Petra is the name of the band not just the lead singer. For you to say that John Schlitt has not had his mind and heart renewed shows that you know very little. Listen to his testimony and then come back to me on that.

Okay, well I will look up his testimony. But truth be told, the band Petra have conformed to the world in that they conformed to its music (Rock & Roll).

Where did I ever say anyone was suppose to listen to all of CCM's music? I never said that nor implied that. I am well aware of the fact that they have signed non Christian artists and they said they were. We are to have discernment about these things.

Yes we are to have discernment.

UMM From where I was the Lord did use this music,along with the Word to root me and ground me in Him. When I put on those praise tapes on the focus is on Him not me.

What do you think Sarah when you read this passage of Scripture:


17 Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you.
18 And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty. - 2 Corinthians 6:17-18 (Holy Bible)

And again according to who and by what standards? Is it because you try to take the Rock and Roll that the world produces (Which of course it's not of God) and then just make a broad based statement that IT ALL MUST BE this way?
The people that often say this NEVER speak on Wagner,or any of the classical music that was WRITTEN about GREEK,ROMAN AND NORSE gods,or witches,warlocks,demons etc. But because it's classical it's OK and because it's just musical notes it's not of this world.

Because of the worldly compromise that kind of music (Hip Hop/ Rock & Roll - Christian or Secular) leads Christians into. What classical music was written to the Greek, Roman, and Norse gods?

UMM I did say that I go to a church where we still the old hymns. And guess what I get the same out of the hymns that I do out of Petra and many others. But I am also careful on what I listen to. Just because one says they are Christian does NOT mean they are.

Well Sarah, I am glad that you listen to the Good Old Hymns.


Well in the days we are living in; it seems that a lot of people like to claim and profess that they are Christians when they are not. So if there was ever a time that anyone needed discernment, it sure is now.

 

[Tintin]

Brain Atrophy - It kills.

Actually, that would be a great name for a rock/metal band.

 

[SarahM777]

Because of the worldly compromise that kind of music (Hip Hop/ Rock & Roll - Christian or Secular) leads Christians into. What classical music was written to the Greek, Roman, and Norse gods?

I will start with this one. I do not say it was written to but about. (But then again if one does not know the intent of the person that wrote it)

Don't for get a lot of classic was written for ballet. How about all those wonderful ballets that included witches,fairies.magic etc.

Snow White,Cinderella,The Nutcracker Suite,Sleeping Beauty,The Little Mermaid,The Rite of Spring,Swan Lake,Aladdin,In the Hall of the Mountain King,The Firebird Suite:Infernal Dance

Classical music

The Noon Witch,Symphonie Fantanstiquie: Dreams of a Witches Sabbath



How about the music that went with that wonderful Disney classic Fantasia?

The Sorcerer's apprentice - Paul Dukas
The Rite's of Spring (Subtitle - Pictures of Pagan Russia in Two Parts) - Stravinsky
Night on Bald Mountains - Mussorgysky It's about a witches sabbath


Other gods and necromancy in ballet and classical

The Temple Dancer,Giselle,The Triumph of Neptune,Isle of the Dead,Saint-Saens,The Mephisto Waltz, The Ride of the Valkyrie-Wagner (Norse)


Dance of Terror- Manuel De Falla

A gal by the name of Rachel Barton plays it on her album called "Instrument of the Devil"

From her press release for that album

DEVILISH WORKS FOR VIOLIN
PLAYED WITH SPIRIT ON NEW CD​

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Rachel Barton Explores Instrument’s Diabolical Image​

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On Instrument of the Devil, gifted young violinist Rachel Barton displays her technical prowess and the instrument's emotional range in an unusual, virtuosic program that, in her words, offers listeners something other than "the usual potpourri of encores."
The new CD explores the mythic and frequent literary associations of the violin with death the Devil. With pianist Patrick Sinozich and other collaborators, Miss Barton performs fiendishly difficult works by Saint-Saëns, Tartini, Liszt, Bazzini, Berlioz, De Falla, Ernst, Paganini, Stravinsky, and Sarasate. The novel violin CD was inspired in part by pianist Earl Wild’s recording of Liszt’s music on diabolical themes (The Demonic Liszt), Miss Barton says.
The cover photo on Cedille’s generous, 16-page CD booklet shows Miss Barton peering out from a hooded cape. A disembodied pair of outstretched hands from the underworld offers up a flaming violin. An essay by musicologist Todd E. Sullivan of Indiana State University traces the origins of the violin’s otherworldly associations back to ancient Greek religious cults, who identified musical instruments with deities and their ethical attributes. By the 1500s, violins were linked with dancing, an activity denounced by religious conservatives. Tales of demonically endowed fiddle players first emerged during the 17th century -- an image that endures in today’s pop culture.

Rachel Barton Pine || Press Release: Instrument of the Devil



There's more if you want it,but to say that classic is SO much better,RIGHT.

 

[SarahM777]

Chosen,

You do understand that people can use classical music the same way as others use yoga principals. "I can get lost in the music as it relaxes my mind. It can take me away from the world,Yada,yada,yada." It all comes down to discernment on how this music affects you,and where your focus goes. If it isn't pointing one to the Lord then whatever music it is that person needs to stay away from that type of music.

 

[Agricola]

So its ok to listen to Orchestral music by composers who died 100+ years ago, even if they sold thier souls to satan and the music you are listening to is about the occult, demons and witches.


Nicolo Paganini is one who is claimed to have made pacts with satan, Tartini is another composer, who was given a dream by satan playing some incredible peice of music which he tried his best to replicate, resulting in the so called Devils Trill.

 

[Need2Know]

How about this song? Are the lyrics clear? Is the message very clear?

Creed - Petra

I believe in God the Father, maker of heaven and earth.
And in Jesus Christ His only son, I believe in the virgin birth.
I believe in the Man of Sorrows, bruised for iniquities.
I believe in the lamb who was crucified, and hung between two thieves.
I believe in the resurrection, on the third and glorious day
I believe in the empty tomb, and the stone that the angel rolled away

He descended and set the captives free
And now He sits at God's right hand and prepares a place for me

This is my creed
The witness I have heard
The faith that has endured
This truth is assured
Through the darkest ages past
Though persecuted it will last
And I will hold steadfast
To this creed

I believe He sent His spirit, to comfort and to reveal
To lead us into truth and light, to baptize and to seal
I believe He will come back, the way He went away and..
Receive us all unto Himself but no man know that day

This is my creed
The witness I have heard
The faith that has endured
This truth is assured
Through the darkest ages past
Though persecuted it will last
And I will hold steadfast
To this creed

I believe He is the judge, of all things small and great
The resurrected souls of men, receive from Him their fate
Some to death and some to life, some to their reward
Some to sing eternal praise, forever to the Lord

And through the darkest ages past
Though persecuted it will last
And I will hold steadfast
To this creed

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Well he could have saved himself a lot of trouble by just saying "I Believe in the Bible" would've covered most of the song lol.

Certainly not my cup of tea lyrically but he is an outstanding vocalist

 

[SarahM777]

Well he could have saved himself a lot of trouble by just saying "I Believe in the Bible" would've covered most of the song lol.

Certainly not my cup of tea lyrically but he is an outstanding vocalist

Perhaps,but I do know for me that song has a lot meaning. It is not everyone's cup of tea but then again neither are the old hymns,nor are Negro spirituals,Southern gospel,Bluegrass gospel songs,etc. Define what a spiritual song is and you have your answer.

This is one of my favorite songs,but it will not be everyone's and that's OK. I know where the focus of the song is and it means a lot to me.

Revelation Song - Phillips,Craig and Dean

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[RedTent]

It is time that open minded people looked carefully into the effects of rock music. It is true, without this added to our churches we would lose many members. When I asked these young people about it, they said that quiet music makes them feel that the worship is dead, the drums make them feel excited for God.

When I explored this deeper, I found that the word rock comes from the sexual act. It started in Harlem, and uses the physical part of our humanness. Our churches are saying that we must take out any physical part of our worship so it is only from our hearts and minds, and we should make our music physical.

What this type of music is doing to minds also needs to be carefully looked at. There is a portion of the mind that simply takes in whatever is presented to it like a hard drive on a computer. We don't tag everything so our memory can retrieve it at any time, but it is there. That murder story, the trashy book you read, the bible story, everything. The sorting out is done by a different level of the mind.

There is a difference in how the mind of a child works who is exposed to different kinds of music. That is just how it is, no matter what side of the argument you are on, and Mozart has been used to test if he really can produce good thinking and he can.

 

[RedTent]

So its ok to listen to Orchestral music by composers who died 100+ years ago, even if they sold thier souls to satan and the music you are listening to is about the occult, demons and witches.


Nicolo Paganini is one who is claimed to have made pacts with satan, Tartini is another composer, who was given a dream by satan playing some incredible peice of music which he tried his best to replicate, resulting in the so called Devils Trill.

That argument is just plain silly, like nit picking. Our art and music does reflect the main thinking of the times it is composed in. You can know music of the 1700's and 2000's easily without knowing a thing about the music or composers as an extreme example.

 

[SarahM777]

It is time that open minded people looked carefully into the effects of rock music. It is true, without this added to our churches we would lose many members. When I asked these young people about it, they said that quiet music makes them feel that the worship is dead, the drums make them feel excited for God.

When I explored this deeper, I found that the word rock comes from the sexual act. It started in Harlem, and uses the physical part of our humanness. Our churches are saying that we must take out any physical part of our worship so it is only from our hearts and minds, and we should make our music physical.

What this type of music is doing to minds also needs to be carefully looked at. There is a portion of the mind that simply takes in whatever is presented to it like a hard drive on a computer. We don't tag everything so our memory can retrieve it at any time, but it is there. That murder story, the trashy book you read, the bible story, everything. The sorting out is done by a different level of the mind.

There is a difference in how the mind of a child works who is exposed to different kinds of music. That is just how it is, no matter what side of the argument you are on, and Mozart has been used to test if he really can produce good thinking and he can.

That's why we need discernment on WHATEVER form of music that we listen to. Just because it has a label of classical does NOT mean that it is all great and wonderful. See above about the whole thing about some of the garbage in classical music. The whole thing always comes back to WHERE is the focus when you listen to the music. (What ever form it is)

I can use this as an example because it goes into one thing,when God does NOT give us a hard and fast rule about something,where it is neither right or wrong it comes down to the personal level of what is right or wrong for that person.
For me it is wrong to listen to all country and bluegrass music because I know what it does to ME,but it never gives me the right to tell YOU that you are not to listen to it. If you find that Southern and Bluegrass gospel points you to the Lord
then go for it,you are free to do so,it's just means I am not to because it is the boundary that God has given me. God has not specifically laid it out that certain styles of music are wrong,just because it's wrong for me does not mean that it is wrong for you. You are not MY servant you are His servant.

 

[RedTent]

That's why we need discernment on WHATEVER form of music that we listen to. Just because it has a label of classical does NOT mean that it is all great and wonderful. See above about the whole thing about some of the garbage in classical music. The whole thing always comes back to WHERE is the focus when you listen to the music. (What ever form it is)

I can use this as an example because it goes into one thing,when God does NOT give us a hard and fast rule about something,where it is neither right or wrong it comes down to the personal level of what is right or wrong for that person.
For me it is wrong to listen to all country and bluegrass music because I know what it does to ME,but it never gives me the right to tell YOU that you are not to listen to it. If you find that Southern and Bluegrass gospel points you to the Lord
then go for it,you are free to do so,it's just means I am not to because it is the boundary that God has given me. God has not specifically laid it out that certain styles of music are wrong,just because it's wrong for me does not mean that it is wrong for you. You are not MY servant you are His servant.

You make a good point, that we need to put this on a personal level. But I think there are solid principles involved that should be worked out, also. If this music is universally bringing out the fleshly part of our being with no spiritual involvement, we need to look at this from the standpoint of making guidelines for us as a Christian group rather than just individually. My Grandson says that it brings out his enthusiasm for the Lord, I say it brings out reactions that have nothing to do with worship. Perhaps that is personal, but I think we need to look carefully at both sides to find what are facts.

The Lord tells us not to look at hard and fast rules, but at the heart of issues. You can obey every hard rule laid down and miss entirely the basic rule to love the Lord with all your heart, mind, soul, and other people. If we can't truly worship with drums beating and us rocking to heavy rhythm, then we can't. The bible doesn't have to say to follow this exact way of doing things. It is the God principles we are following.

 

[DragonSlayer]

This is very frightening indeed ! And I think it's true ! Many years ago, in the beginning of my 20's, I talked openly with a typical modern Jewish teenager ( she was 15 ), and she confessed me she was a great fan of Marilyn Manson, and at her home it happened several times she wanted to stab some people with a big knife and she was stopped by her family.

So to all who say this is not true, I can tell it is true, for Marilyn Manson is a satanist, and for doing so, it's " free " ritual sacrifices to them, the " perfect " crime, the " invisible " murderer " is included in the music itself, ie subliminal messages added to certain type of waves and the demonic lyrics !

I knew there was something wrong with heavy metal anyway, I always hated it to death and I was right !

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By Dr. Terry Watkins


Dial The Truth Ministries

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More than half a million teenagers attempt suicide each year!


Nearly two—thousand a day!


Suicide has increased 300 percent since 1950. The teenage suicide rate in America is the highest of all industrialized nations. And according to the National Education Association, ". . . teenage suicides are linked to depression fueled by FATALISTIC MUSIC AND LYRICS."


In 1988, Dr. Mark Rosenburg, addressing the American Society of Suicidology, said, "It was thought that the way to prevent suicides was to treat depression . . . It's not the case with these kids. Rather than being clinically depressed, these young suicide victims are impulsive, acting out fantasies."


Where are the fantasies coming from these young people are acting out?


Time after time ... the culprit — ROCK MUSIC!


Dr. Paul King, medical director of the adolescent program at Charter Lakeside Hospital, in Memphis Tennessee, says more than 80 percent of his patients are there because of rock music. He adds, "the lyrics become a philosophy of life, a RELIGION."


WHAT ARE THE ROCK STARS PREACHING?


Elton John, sings, "Think I'll buy a forty-four/Give 'em all a surprise/Think I'm gonna kill myself,/Cause a little suicide."


The Nihilistics sing, "This method is effective, tried and true/It's the only solution left for you/Kill yourself, kill yourself/It's about time you tried/Kill yourself, kill yourself/IT'S ABOUT TIME YOU DIED"


The Healing Faith sings, "I put a bullet in the chamber/Put the barrel in my mouth/Six to one I'm gonna make it/One in six I'll snuff it out."


Metallica sings, "I have lost the will to live,/Simply nothing more to give/There is nothing more for me/NEED THE END TO SET ME FREE."


Ken Wooden, investigative reporter for "20/20" said, "Why do we spend billions on advertising? Because people answer the ads. This type of music is a form of advertising . . . And I've seen kids who have responded to the ads. I'VE SEEN THEM DEAD ON MARBLE SLABS."


Sixteen-year-old Steve Boucher put a gun to his head, pulled the trigger and blew his brains out. His parents blame their son's suicide with his obsession to AC/DC's song "Shoot to Thrill." He was sitting under his AC/DC poster when he pulled the trigger.


In February 1986, eighteen-year-old Phillip Morton, hung himself from a closet door in Delafield, Wisconsin. Pink Floyd's album The Wall, which includes such songs as "Goodbye Cruel World" and "Waiting for the Worms," was playing continuously in the background.


In the book "The Psychology of Music", Dr. Schoen says, "Music is the most powerful stimulus known among the perceptive processes." Charles Manson, who claimed inspiration from the Beatles, used music to gain "satanic" control over his followers who went so far as murder under his command. Art Linkletter blamed "secret messages" in rock music for the death of his daughter in 1969. Dr. Howard Hanson, a director of the famous Eastman School of Music said, "Music is made up of many ingredients and according to the proportions of these components, it can be soothing or invigorating, ennobling or vulgarizing, IT HAS POWERS FOR EVIL AS WELL AS FOR GOOD."


Satan has commanded a vicious attack at the young of this generation. Jesus Christ said in John 10:10, "The thief cometh not, but for to STEAL, and KILL, and to DESTROY:" And his number-one target is the most vulnerable — THE YOUNG!


The Dead Kennedys, sing, "I kill children,/I love to see them die/I kill children,/I make their mothers cry."


The Bible in Ezekiel chapter 28 describes Satan before his rebellion and fall, verse 13, ". . . thou hast been in Eden the garden of God: every precious stone was thou covering . . . the workmanship of thy TABRETS and of thy PIPES was prepared in thee the day that thou wast created."


Tabrets and pipes are musical instruments!


Satan is connected with music and you'd better believe he knows the awesome power of music!




2 Corinthians chapter 4: verses 3-4 says, "But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost: In whom the god of this world (referring to Satan) hath BLINDED THE MINDS of them which believe not".


The battle is a battle for the mind!


Jesse Penn-Lewis in her book, Battle for the Mind says, "There is a great battle to-day over THE USE AND CONTROL OF THE MIND . . . it is primarily THROUGH THE MIND that Satan holds his captives in his power."


One of the greatest attacks Satan ever placed upon the human mind is rock music. Mick Jagger of the Rolling Stones, who Newsweek magazine calls the Lucifer of rock, said years ago, "we,ve had they're bodies . . . and now WE WANT THEIR MINDS."


Satan knows, if he can capture your mind he can control you. Jesus Christ commanded us in Matthew 22:37, "Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy MIND."


In Mark chapter 5, Jesus Christ casts the demons out of the maniac of Gadera, and verse 15 reads, "And they come to Jesus, and see him that was possessed with the devil, and had the legion, sitting, and clothed, and in his right MIND:"


The apostle Peter gives a solemn warning in 1 Peter 1:13, "Wherefore gird up the loins of your MIND".


Anyone who has studied hypnosis knows the key vehicle for hypnosis is repetition. In hypnosis, the subject is usually asked to repeat a phrase over and over until their conscious mind is in a hypnotic, suggestive state. While under hypnosis, people have little or no control over their actions. Many times they don't even know what happened.


In San Antonio, Texas, a sixteen-year-old boy while listening to Pink Floyd's album The Wall, went into a trancelike state. Without warning, he suddenly jumped up and brutally stabbed his aunt to death. According to the police report, there were no drugs involved — JUST THE MUSIC! The boy claimed the music HYPNOTIZED HIM and does not even remember the killing!


Satan is using a powerful and subtle form of hypnosis to capture the mind. The key to hypnosis is repetition and the main ingredient of rock music is repetition. An overwhelming, repetitive, driving beat. That steady, repetitive beat can place the listener's mind into a dangerous state of suggestive hypnosis. And friend, that danger is frightening when you consider the words fed into that young impressionable mind!


In October 1984, Nineteen-year-old John McCollum shot himself in the head, while listening to Ozzy Osbourne sing "Suicide Solution": "Evil thoughts and evil doings/Cold, alone, you hang in ruins/Thought that you'd escape the reaper/You can't escape the Master Keeper/ . . . /Where to hide, suicide is the only way out."


He was still wearing the stereo headphones when his body was found!


The Institute for Bio-Acoustics Research, Inc. (IBAR) was hired to evaluate "Suicide Solution". Not surprisingly, they found subliminal lyrics that weren't included in the copyright "lead sheet". The subliminal lyrics are sung at one and one-half times the normal rate of speech and are not grasped by the first time listener. However, they claim the subliminal lyrics, "are audible enough that their meaning and true intent becomes clear after being listened to over and over again." What are some of the hidden subliminal lyrics? "Why try, why try? GET THE GUN AND TRY IT! SHOOT. . .SHOOT. . .SHOOT," — followed by a hideous laughter!


But, that's not all! IBAR's analysis of "Suicide Solution" found something else — Hemisync tones, which result from a patented process that uses sound waves to influence an individual's mental state. The tones have been found to increase the rate at which the human brain assimilates and processes information." IBAR alleges that the Hemisync tones made 19-year-old John McCollum more vulnerable to the suggestive lyrics sung by Ozzy Osbourne.


The McCollum's attorney says he has received "at least 20 phone calls from parents indicating their kids committed suicide — not just listening to rock music but specifically to Ozzy Osbourne."


John McCollum's father said, "THEY KNOW WHAT THEY ARE PUTTING OUT . . . there are people who are out there trying to make money, and THEY HAVE NO HESITATION TO SELL YOUR KIDS DOWN THE DRAIN . . . You see a perfectly normal kid there who doesn't show any signs of depression at all — happy. Then six hours later, he's dead. Nobody can explain it. The only thing we know is that he was listening to this music."


Jimi Hendrix, among rock's greatest guitarists, who choked to death on his own vomit in 1970 due to a drug overdose, said, "Atmospheres are going to come through music because music is a spiritual thing of its own. YOU CAN HYPNOTIZE PEOPLE WITH MUSIC and when you get people at the weakest point YOU CAN PREACH INTO THEIR SUBCONSCIOUS whatever you want to say."


Homosexual rock star Little Richard, said, "Some rock and roll groups stand in a circle and drink cups of blood. Some get on their knees and pray to the devil. ROCK AND ROLL HYPNOTIZES US AND CONTROLS OUR SENSES."


In December 1985, eighteen-year-old Raymond Belknap and James Vance after listening to Judas Priest sing "Beyond the Realms of Death", climbed out the bedroom window, and went to a nearby church playground. There Belknap put a sawed-off shotgun to his head, pulled the trigger and literally blew his head off. As Belknap lay dead on the playground, Vance took his turn. He said, "There was just tons of blood. It was like the gun had grease on it. There was so much blood I could barely handle it, and I reloaded it and then, you know, it was my turn, and I readied myself. I was thinking about all that there was to live for, so much of your life is right before your eyes, and it was like I DIDN'T HAVE ANY CONTROL . . . MY BODY WAS COMPELLED to do it and I went ahead and shot."


Vance survived the gunshot wound, but slipped into a coma in November, 1988 and died a few days later.


The bereaved parents brought legal action against Judas Priest. The lawsuit stated, "The suggestive lyrics combined with the continuous beat and rhythmic non-changing intonation of the music combined to induce, encourage, aid, abet and mesmerize the plaintiff into believing the answer to life was death."


According to expert witnesses who analyzed the Judas Priest album, both subliminal messages and backmasking were found. They found the subliminal message "Do it" at least six times. Attorney Kenneth McKenna said, "They just literally obeyed the commands of the music, and the lyrics . . ."


Do you remember Patty Hearst?


In February, 1974, she was kidnapped by the Symbionese Liberation Army. But shortly, she's helping the SLA rob banks. You wonder how they converted her? Newsweek magazine, February 16, 1976, Dr. William Sargent, Britain's foremost expert on brainwashing was asked to examine Patty Hearst. His conclusion: "she was a victim of "FORCED CONVERSION" or brainwashing. Her nervous system was kept at maximum stress by the continual playing of loud ROCK MUSIC . . . a person whose nervous system is under constant pressure can "inhibit" and "exhibit" paradoxical brain activity—BAD BECOMES GOOD AND GOOD BECOMES BAD."


According to Dr. Sargent, rock music can actually "convert" the listener — bad actually becomes good, and good becomes bad. That explains the often irrational and unnatural behavior among today's youth. No wonder I've had young people, without the least bit of fear or hesitation, look me straight in the face and say, "Yea, man, I wanna go to hell, we're gonna party down in the flames of hell with Satan."


Sixteen-year-old, Dennis Bartts, of Center Point, Texas, told his best friend he "planned to meet Satan." He walked to the high school football field, carrying his portable cassette player. When he got there he popped AC/DC's "Highway to Hell" in the cassette player, and hung himself from the goalpost.


There is no rational explanation for such behavior, outside of "satanic" influence. Reporter Tom Jarriel on ABC's "20/20" said, "The Satanic message is clear, both in the album covers and in the lyrics, WHICH ARE REACHING IMPRESSIONABLE YOUNG MINDS."


According to the book Satanism in America, which is endorsed by the National Criminal Justice Task Force on Occult Related Ritualistic Crimes, hard-core Satanism has been called "the fastest-growing subculture among America's teens."


The facts speak loud and clear!


Satan, using a very powerful and deadly weapon called rock music, has penetrated and captured the minds of this generation!


Young people tell me, "Aw man, it's not affecting me. I don't worship the devil. I'm not gonna commit suicide, or anything. I just like listening to the music. But man, it doesn't affect me."


That's not what Dr. Kappas says . . .


Dr. John Kappas, a leading researcher of the mind and hypnosis, started in the early 60's studying the effects of rock music. Dr. Kappas said, " . . . the things that aren't understood about all these satanic things is how they get the message across to these young people. What you are talking about is what is called WAKING SUGGESTIBILITY. These are highly suggestible states easily influencing the young . . . any conscious message that goes along with that record will be bought by the listener at that time. THERE IS NO DEFENSE against the conscious message received at that time . . . They will take in anything that you suggest at that time BECAUSE THEY HAVE NO DEFENSES AGAINST IT . . . THEY BECAME HYPNOTIZED . . . These were individuals who were ESSENTIALLY WALKING AROUND IN A HYPNOTIC STATE . . ."


Fourteen-year-old Thomas Sullivan of New Jersey, a fan of Ozzy Osbourne, claimed it didn't affect him. But on January 9, 1988 the small town of Jefferson Township knew better. Tommy Sullivan, your typical, all-American, fourteen-year-old — BECAME A BRUTAL KILLER!


That Saturday night, Tommy's father was awakened by the sound of a smoke alarm. He got up and discovered a small fire burning in the living room. While he was putting it out, he heard the front door slam. He went to the window in time to see someone plow the family car into a snowbank, then jump out of the car and run. Then he found his wife in the basement, lying in a pool of blood. Her eyes had been gouged, her cheeks carved and her throat brutally slit.


"We knew immediately who our suspect was," said Detective Hart. On the front seat of the family car was found a note in Tommy's handwriting, addressed to "the greatest demons of hell." It included a pledge to kill his family. The pledge had been crossed out, and in parentheses, Tommy had added, "I have already killed my family."


Early the next morning, a neighbor spotted Tommy's shirtless, frozen body in the neighbor's snow-covered backyard. His wrists were slashed and his throat slashed from ear-to-ear with an intensity that nearly decapitated him. Mayor Fran Slayton put it best, "There's just something that's bothering me about this situation. It bothers me that a good kid like that can go in two weeks."


Tommy's father said later, all week his son had been singing a rock song "about blood and killing your mother."


1 Peter 5:8 says, ". . . the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, SEEKING WHOM HE MAY DEVOUR:"


Jesus Christ said, "He that is not with me is against me. . ."


When you say NO to Jesus — you say YES to Satan.


And friend, That's a very, very serious thing to do!


THE CHOICE IS YOURS!


YOU CAN BE SAVED THIS VERY MINUTE!


It's simple to be saved ...


Know you're a sinner.


"As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:" Romans 3:10


"... for there is no difference. For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;" Romans 3:23
That Jesus Christ died on the cross to pay for your sins.


"Who his own self bare our sins in own body on the tree, ..." 1 Peter 2:24


"... Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood," Revelation 1:5
And the best way you know how, simply trust Him, and Him alone as your personal Savior.


"For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life." John 3:16
WOULD YOU LIKE TO BE SAVED?


Pray this prayer, and mean it with all your heart.


Lord Jesus, I know that I am a sinner, and unless you save me I am lost forever. I thank you for dying for me at Calvary. I come to you now, Lord the best way I know how, and ask you to save me. I now receive you as my Savior. In Jesus Christ Name, Amen.

 

[gb9]

wow, this is straight out of 1989. I heard all the garbage that any one listing to rock music was hell-bound when I was a teenager. taking isolated incindents and making blanket rules for everyone is plain wrong.

 

[Agricola]

do you mean 1984? little known fact, George Orwell originally called his book 1948 as a political attack on the politics at end of the War. However publishers would not print it as it was too politically sensitive and controversial, so he just told them to switch the last two digits around and thus a classic was born.

 

[gb9]

no, I meant that kind of garbage was pounded on teenagers in churches about that time. heard it back then, thought that mindset was gone. guess not.

 

[Nautilus]

lol some people just cant be helped.
[video=youtube;P4qZrcGeL78]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4qZrcGeL78[/video]

And before anyone complains about the video, its christian

 

[Agricola]

The uploader has not made this video available in your country. yay.

 

[starfield]

lol some people just cant be helped.
[video=youtube;P4qZrcGeL78]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4qZrcGeL78[/video]

And before anyone complains about the video, its christian

Meh...one can’t even understand what is being said. Sorry but I’d rather listen to a song that is actually meaningful than high-pitched growling.

 

[Agricola]

That argument is just plain silly, like nit picking. Our art and music does reflect the main thinking of the times it is composed in. You can know music of the 1700's and 2000's easily without knowing a thing about the music or composers as an extreme example.

I wasnt the one who started "nit Picking" and I wasnt the one who started this thread by making absured claims by saying All rock music is wrong, all music with heavy beat is wrong, then we had the statement that , "All classical music is fine because its old in style">

Sorry no, in 1000 years time, will same argument be used all music in late 20th century is fine, cause its "old"