Russia is preparing Cush and Put (the African Alliance) for the Ezekiel 38 War!

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selahsays

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No, I pointed out that verse because I'm not saying it will happen on a certain date. I don't know God's timing, has nothing to do with a bet. It's an assurance of knowing that His return is close. It could be tomorrow, IDK, I'm not God. But according to Scripture 1948 is the beginning of the end. The verse is related, only God knows the time and He doesn't measure it as we do.
but we do know this:

Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him, That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand. Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

- 2 Thessalonians 2:1-4 (KJV)
Jesus Christ will not return until after “that man of sin“ (Satan) shows up claiming to be God.
 

NightTwister

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No, it may not matter to you, but it sure matters to people we're evangelizing to and reaching the world for Christ. You've been on the road however many years, that's fine, you can have that view.
Why would it matter to people who are evangelizing or being evangelized? Such complex matters should be taught well after teaching the basics of the faith, which unfortunately is severely lacking in most churches today.
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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Why would it matter to people who are evangelizing or being evangelized? Such complex matters should be taught well after teaching the basics of the faith, which unfortunately is severely lacking in most churches today.

I think people can walk and chew gum. My fathers brother who was not saved would call my father any time he saw something happening with Israel. He knew that Israel is the center of prophesy. There are no prophesies holding back the second coming, we are closer than ever before and we want to let the unsaved know that this time is short. I don't agree with naming a date, a day, a year, that is why I added the Bible verse. But as far as prophesy goes, Israel is the time clock. Nations are aligning themselves against Israel and God's countdown has begun. Prophesy is important or it wouldn't be in the Word.
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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but we do know this:

Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him, That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand. Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

- 2 Thessalonians 2:1-4 (KJV)
Jesus Christ will not return until after “that man of sin“ (Satan) shows up claiming to be God.

Oh no question, Christ will not return until after the Anti-Christ has shown his power and betrayed the Jewish people.
 

Melach

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You might obtain a little more understanding if you study a little bit more. Read the little book of Obadiah. Read about Esau and Jacob. What are the two nations that they represent? Do you know that God hates communism and socialism? Stop thinking about individual people and more about Godless systems and nations. Get some knowledge under your belt; perhaps then we can have a worthwhile discussion.
Esau and Jacob represented two people, edomites and israelites. nothing to do with america once again. ive read the entire bible, not a word about the united states.

God is all for private property from old and new testament that i agree with. communism does suck. i know a lot of people who lived under communism.
 

selahsays

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Esau and Jacob represented two people, edomites and israelites. nothing to do with america once again. ive read the entire bible, not a word about the united states.

God is all for private property from old and new testament that i agree with. communism does suck. i know a lot of people who lived under communism.
You have any idea where the lost tribes went?

And I will appoint a place for my people Israel and will plant them, so that they may dwell in their own place and be disturbed no more. And violent men shall afflict them no more, as formerly,

- 2 Samuel 7:10

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Ah, land of whirring wings that is beyond the rivers of Cush, which sends ambassadors by the sea, in vessels of papyrus on the waters! Go, you swift messengers, to a nation, tall and smooth, to a people feared near and far, a nation mighty and conquering, whose land the rivers divide. All you inhabitants of the world, you who dwell on the earth, when a signal is raised on the mountains, look! When a trumpet is blown, hear! For thus the LORD said to me: "I will quietly look from my dwelling like clear heat in sunshine, like a cloud of dew in the heat of harvest." For before the harvest, when the blossom is over, and the flower becomes a ripening grape, he cuts off the shoots with pruning hooks, and the spreading branches he lops off and clears away. They shall all of them be left to the birds of prey of the mountains and to the beasts of the earth. And the birds of prey will summer on them, and all the beasts of the earth will winter on them. At that time tribute will be brought to the LORD of hosts from a people tall and smooth, from a people feared near and far, a nation mighty and conquering, whose land the rivers divide, to Mount Zion, the place of the name of the LORD of hosts.

- Isaiah 18
 

seekingthemindofChrist

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Hey Seeking, how about we discuss before we throw out a red x? What's the issue?
The issue is that you said that America is not mentioned in the Bible as having anything to do with the end-times, and that is not true. In reality, America is one of the biggest end-times nations mentioned in the Bible.

A red x is merely a red x. If you get three in a row, then tic tac toe...lol.
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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The issue is that you said that America is not mentioned in the Bible as having anything to do with the end-times, and that is not true. In reality, America is one of the biggest end-times nations mentioned in the Bible.

A red x is merely a red x. If you get three in a row, then tic tac toe...lol.

Lol I overused the red x last time round, this time I'm proud of myself, I haven't used one yet. Ok, so I missed something, can you fill me in where in the Bible America is mentioned?
 

selahsays

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Lol I overused the red x last time round, this time I'm proud of myself, I haven't used one yet. Ok, so I missed something, can you fill me in where in the Bible America is mentioned?
read my post above :)
 

Mem

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What about my first question?
I suppose it is unavoidable that various faith communities have a certain degree of influence in the way of reaching my views. I listen to the chatter, consider the offerings, and either take them, leave them, or store them away in case of a significant need to revisit them.
 

shittim

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There is a youtube of a man from Israel university going to each of the places described in historical texts and found a vibrant Jewish community practicing the same as at the time of the diaspora.
 

shittim

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Some say the passage of "the young lions" indicates the nations that sprang from the British Empire, :):unsure:(y)
 

BeeBlessed

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american delusions on display. america really is one of the most wicked nations on this earth. trust me, God will not be fighting for the united states.

you name the wickedness, it comes from usa. they have polluted the entire globe with the trannymania, hellish music industry, p0rn, hollywood movies, garbage theology and junk food. it is everywhere. every single country has been polluted by it. destroyed the youth world over.

but im sure God will fight these end time battles for ya.
I apologize for getting off-topic here; but I can’t let this insulting delusion go un-fact-checked. Wickedness does not come from the USA, but from the heart. Wickedness is born and abides in the hearts of men and women without Christ. Surely you know this, but just in case, here are some scriptures to think about before you make the next accusation against a nation.

Isaiah 14:12-15 (NKJV)

12 “How you are fallen from heaven,
O Lucifer, son of the morning!
How you are cut down to the ground,
You who weakened the nations!
13 For you have said in your heart:
‘I will ascend into heaven,
I will exalt my throne above the stars of God;
I will also sit on the mount of the congregation
On the farthest sides of the north;
14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds,
I will be like the Most High.’
15 Yet you shall be brought down to Sheol,
To the lowest depths of the Pit.


Ezekiel 28:15-17 (NKJV)

15 You were perfect in your ways from the day you were created,
Till iniquity was found in you.
16 “By the abundance of your trading
You became filled with violence within,
And you sinned;
Therefore I cast you as a profane thing
Out of the mountain of God;
And I destroyed you, O covering cherub,
From the midst of the fiery stones.
17 “Your heart was lifted up because of your beauty;
You corrupted your wisdom for the sake of your splendor;
I cast you to the ground,
I laid you before kings,
That they might gaze at you.


Matthew 15:19 (NKJV)

19 For out of the heart proceed evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, fornications, thefts, false witness, blasphemies.
 

seekingthemindofChrist

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Lol I overused the red x last time round, this time I'm proud of myself, I haven't used one yet. Ok, so I missed something, can you fill me in where in the Bible America is mentioned?
America is the "another beast", with a beast being representative of a kingdom, which is mentioned in the book of Revelation. It would take some time and effort on my part to prove my assertion, which I do not have at this precise moment, but that is the short answer to your question. Sorry about the red x, but that is how we show that we disagree. Did you feel like you were getting buzzed by Simon Cowell on AGT? lol.