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We are called to celebrate the day of Yahushua's (Jesus's) resurrection. Let me show you. First we need to understand why the Messiah rose from the dead when He did, but first you have to understand when and why He was crucified for us. Yahushua was crucified on the Passover{Thanks you made me research it more, see below.}, and was and is our Passover lamb. Leviticus Chapter 23 explains Yahweh's feast days for us. We are told that the day after the Passover is the first day of "unleavened bread", it is a Holy day considered a Sabbath day. We are also told that after the first day which comes after the Weekly Sabbath day (Seventh day of the Week) after the Passover day is another Holy day called "first fruits". It is on that day that the children of Israel were to bring a "Sheaf" of grain, being the first ripe stalks of barley grain from their crops, and present it as a "wave offering" to Yahweh at the Temple. It represented the first of all the harvest that Yahweh (God) would bless the people with. Yahushua rose from the dead on that same day, He became the "first fruits of the dead" as He was risen up from the grave and presented before the Father in Heaven. It is in the Keeping of Yahweh's Holy Days that we find true Worship, both of Yahweh and His Son Yahushua. In truth believers were never told to worship every first day of the week (Sunday) It is hard to accept for some but this is a tradition of men based off of pagan rooted practices. It's not wrong to worship on Sunday, or any given day, but Christianity has replaced Yahweh's Holy Days with their own man made institutions. We are still called to Keep every Sabbath, and every Holy Day {Chapter and Verse Please}, and indeed every Word that proceeds from the mouth of Yahweh, for it is by that that we live.

Deuteronomy 8:3 and Matthew 4:4



He, Yahushua, was the fulfillment of that great Feast/Holy Day, and when you celebrate that Day every year you are celebrating His resurrection.
It says in the Scriptures that He was Crucified on Preparation Day, which is the Day before the High Holy Sabbath that is the First Day of the Feast of Unleavened Bread. I admit that for a LONG TIME I have thought Passover and the First Day of Unleavened Bread, were the same day. Thanks for the correction.

Jewish law FORBADE a body hanging on the Cross on the First Day of the Feast of Unleavened Bread, because that Day, (always Nissan 15th) is always considered a HIGH HOLY SABBATH, and it has the same laws and regulations applied to that day as the weekly Sabbath. Ask any Jewish Historian, and you will find out that because Nisan 15th is considered a High Holy Sabbath, the lambs for the Passover meal were ALWAYS slaughtered on Nisan 14th, (also known as Preparation Day), between 3 P.M. and 5 P.M. Nisan 14th in the year 33 A.D. fell on a Thursday. Yes, that means JESUS celebrated the Passover at the earliest time possible, some time after sundown on 13th, which in the Jewish way of counting a Day is the beginning of the 14th of Nissan, which is Passover, because HE KNEW that He would be in the TOMB by Sundown that next day, the start of Feast of Unleavened Bread. I suspect that most people celebrated the Passover Seder at or shortly before Sundown on the 14th of Nisan.


John 19:30-31 (NKJV)
[SUP]30 [/SUP] So when Jesus had received the sour wine, He said, "It is finished!" And bowing His head, He gave up His spirit.
[SUP]31 [/SUP] Therefore, because it was the Preparation Day, that the bodies should not remain on the cross on the Sabbath (for that Sabbath was a high day), the Jews asked Pilate that their legs might be broken, and that they might be taken away.

Leviticus 23 gives us the important and “missing” information in the traditional teaching. Because we have not bothered to put the New Testament account into its Old Testament framework, we have misunderstood and misconstrued the events of the Passover season in which Y’shua died and was resurrected. Therefore, to understand what happened, let’s look at this missing info.

[SUP]5[/SUP]In the first month, on the fourteenth day of the month at twilight (*when God says a new day begins) is Yahweh's Passover.
[SUP]6[/SUP] 'Then on the fifteenth day of the same month there is the Feast of Unleavened Bread to Yahweh; for seven days you shall eat unleavened bread.
[SUP]7[/SUP] 'On the first day you shall have a holy convocation; you shall not do any laborious work.
[SUP]8[/SUP] 'But for seven days you shall present an offering by fire to Yahweh. On the seventh day is a holy convocation; you shall not do any laborious work.'" Leviticus 23:5-8 (*my commentary)

The Two Sabbaths of Passover
There is some good information on that site, BUT I do not agree with his conclusion that Passover Seder was Tuesday evening and the Resurrection was Saturday evening. His First Error apparently is he is not using the year 33 A.D. and then he seems to be counting the day the way we count a Day, instead of counting it as starting at sundown the way the Jews did. He also failed to recognize that the Jews in counting the number of Days and Nights, would count any part of a night or a day as being equal to fulfilling the prophecy of the number of DAYS AND NIGHTS, THUS any part of Sunday's daylight hours, even a few minutes, counted as the THIRD DAY. The biggest reason there is so much disagreement about this, is No one has found definitive information verifying which YEAR He was crucified. In fact Wikipedia says: "Thus, scholars generally agree that Jesuswas crucified between AD 30 and AD 36." I personally believe it was 33 A.D. like most Churches teach, and in that particular year Nisan 14th and Nisan 15th, were Thursday and Friday. When you use a different Year, Nisan 15 falls on a different day. In short, Good Friday, is a misnomer.


You are Correct, Firsts Fruit Wave Offering was always on a Sunday.

Leviticus 23:10-11 (ASV)
[SUP]10 [/SUP] Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them, When ye are come into the land which I give unto you, and shall reap the harvest thereof, then ye shall bring the sheaf of the first-fruits of your harvest unto the priest:
[SUP]11 [/SUP] and he shall wave the sheaf before Jehovah, to be accepted for you: on the morrow after the sabbath the priest shall wave it.
 
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I am borrowing those memes for another thread :D Thank you Sparkman :)
 

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Here's another one concerning the annual festivals which some claim are still applicable.
John didn't call either feast the "feast of the Jews". Gentile translators having no understanding of what a "Chag Sukkoth" or "Chag HaMatzot" were about and, assuming it wasn't really significant to know for the account, called them "feast of the jews" in place of their official titles. Translators took liberties like this all throughout the scriptures.
 
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John didn't call either feast the "feast of the Jews". Gentile translators having no understanding of what a "Chag Sukkoth" or "Chag HaMatzot" were about and, assuming it wasn't really significant to know for the account, called them "feast of the jews" in place of their official titles. Translators took liberties like this all throughout the scripture.
So you need a Hebrew Roots or other Judaizer bible to understand this?
 
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Here's another one that is a serious flaw with Sabbathkeeper/Torah observer claims.

A large number of early Christians were slaves. Do they seriously think their unbelieving Gentile masters allowed them to waltz off on Sabbath, and to forsake their servile labor? Don't they think Paul would have addressed this issue of what to do in such circumstances if the Sabbath is a requirement? And, if it isn't required for slaves, then why not for other Christians?
 

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So you need a Hebrew Roots or other Judaizer bible to understand this?
No, one needs to simply not take liberties with translating scripture and just translate. And then let the words of scripture and The Holy Spirit lead the reader to the truth. God will guide a heart that wants to understand.
 
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Another realization I came to as an ex Judaizer..Paul provides NO INSTRUCTION concerning observing days or clean meat laws in the epistles to the Gentiles which would have been the case if it was required from them.

Read Romans 14. A Judaizer cannot read this chapter coherently. It plainly says days and foods are irrelevant to the faith. The focus is on Jesus Christ and him sacrificed.
 

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No, one needs to simply not take liberties with translating scripture and just translate. And then let the words of scripture and The Holy Spirit lead the reader to the truth. God will guide a heart that wants to understand.
Yes, the Holy Spirit led me out of Judaizer teachings. So I agree. I take no liberties with Scripture. Greek scholars would agree with what the translation says..that is why multiple respected translations use "Feasts of the Jews", or Jewish festivals, or some variant of it.

Are you saying the Hebrew Roots/Messianic Jews/Judaizers are the ones who have the correct translation and they are wrong?
 

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Yes, the Holy Spirit led me out of Judaizer teachings. So I agree. I take no liberties with Scripture. Greek scholars would agree with what the translation says..that is why multiple respected translations use "Feasts of the Jews", or Jewish festivals, or some variant of it.

Are you saying the Hebrew Roots/Messianic Jews/Judaizers are the ones who have the correct translation and they are wrong?
lol You seem to want to coach me in what you want me to say when I said what I mean. So I'll say this...the feasts are God's feasts not the Jews' feasts. Which are you saying? Are you saying these feasts are the Jews' feasts and not God's feasts?
 

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Here's another one that is a serious flaw with Sabbathkeeper/Torah observer claims.

A large number of early Christians were slaves. Do they seriously think their unbelieving Gentile masters allowed them to waltz off on Sabbath, and to forsake their servile labor? Don't they think Paul would have addressed this issue of what to do in such circumstances if the Sabbath is a requirement? And, if it isn't required for slaves, then why not for other Christians?
If you are a slave serve as if unto Yeshua. They did address it
 

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Yeshua is my master. Being he is my master and I am a slave to him I would rather be enslaved to rightousness than to sin.
 
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Great study! To the OP, thanks for starting a genuine thread because you wanted to earnestly and sincerely understand the issue and when and what course of action you should be taking for observation and worship. I hope it's assisted you, in particular this post which elucidates it well:


Here's how the Lord says to observe the Sabbath Numbers 28:9-10 "‘And on the Sabbath day two lambs in their first year, without blemish, and two-tenths of an ephah of fine flour as a grain offering, mixed with oil, with its drink offering—this is the burnt offering for every Sabbath, besides the regular burnt offering with its drink offering."

Here's something interesting Matthew 11:27-30 "
All things have been delivered to Me by My Father, and no one knows the Son except the Father. Nor does anyone know the Father except the Son, and the one to whom the Son wills to reveal Him. Come to Me, all you who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.Take My yoke upon you and learn from Me, for I am gentle and lowly in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. For My yoke is easy and My burden is light.”

Jesus give us this rest and it seem as though Jesus was teaching this on the Sabbath 12:1-8 "At that time Jesus went through the grainfields on the Sabbath. And His disciples were hungry, and began to pluck heads of grain and to eat. And when the Pharisees saw it they said to Him, “Look, Your disciples are doing what is not lawful to do on the Sabbath!
But He said to them, “Have you not read what David did when he was hungry, he and those who were with him:how he entered the house of God and ate the showbread which was not lawful for him to eat, nor for those who were with him, but only for the priests? Or have you not read in the law that on the Sabbath the priests in the temple profane the Sabbath, and are blameless? Yet I say to you that in this place there is One greater than the temple. But if you had known what this means, ‘I desire mercy and not sacrifice,’ you would not have condemned the guiltless. For the Son of Man is Lord even of the Sabbath.”

More than sacrifice the Lord desires mercy, not sacrifice. Listen to what the Holy Spirit says about the . Hebrews 4:1-4 "Therefore, since a promise remains of entering His rest, let us fear lest any of you seem to have come short of it. For indeed the gospel was preached to us as well as to them; but the word which they heard did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in those who heard it. For we who have believed do enter that rest, as He has said: “So I swore in My wrath, ‘They shall not enter My rest,’” although the works were finished from the foundation of the world. For He has spoken in a certain place of the seventh day in this way: “And God rested on the seventh day from all His works”; and again in this day in this way: “And God rested on the seventh day from all His works”

The Sabbath is a day of rest and we have entered in through Jesus, our Sabbath rest is in Him.

 
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I will rather quote Bible verses than Sparkman's memes when discussing God's word
 

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Do not harden your heart as they did in the wilderness and in his anger God said they will not enter my rest.
 
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Did you look up that verse in the original Greek? The evidence is quite clear by the original text. In that verse we see Jesus as man, God, and rest. To back it up what does Jesus tell us in Matthew 11: 28? There we read:

Come unto me all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.

How could He give us rest if He is the Lord of Rest? He can give us rest because HE IS OUR REST! Remember, the seventh day was when God rested after creation. Now God does not get tired nor need to rest. So what is all this about anyway? Why were the Jews commanded to do no work on the Sabbath, but to rest? It is because God warns us that His Salvation is of Himself. We are to do no works to contribute to it. In the days of the Jews you would be put to death if you worked on the Sabbath. That signifies eternal death if we work for our Salvation. The Jews went from slavery in Egypt to a land flowing with milk and honey. They didn't even have to cultivate the land. That was their rest and a picture of our Salvation, Jesus Christ. He is our rest!
Have you ever read Hebrews 3 and 4? It is the key to unlocking the Bible when it concerns rest. Why did God rest when He finished creation? Did God get tired or need a day off? No, so we can see by the nature of God that rest signifies something more then a day of resting or worship. Hebrews 4: 9-10

9 There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God.

10 For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his.

See, as I explained before Jesus is our rest (Sabbath) Just as Almighty God, who needs no rest from works, rested after creation we see here that this signifies the end of our works. And Christ ended the work of Salvation at the cross. That is why he cried out "It is finished". So while you argue back and forth about what day of the week you can honor God by some work of worship and praise, you are missing the entire point. God doesn't need or want our works to think we are doing Him some favor or honor or something. If we really love God, and are one of His Elect ones, we will glorify God in HIS work of creation and HIS work of salvation through Jesus, Messiah, our Sabbath Rest. He did and accomplished our works of salvation, and we are forever in Him, our Sabbath Rest! These teachings are foreign to most because most people only read the Bible guided by some mans footnotes or commentary. Or by some churches preacher or doctrines. Over the years they get "brainwashed" and find a security in these beliefs. A True Believer reads the Bible alone, and in it's entirety. It is explained to us by the Holy Spirit, that way the Bible interprets itself and is not in any contradiction to itself. You all are argue back and forth about a day of worship. God is talking about Salvation, Eternal Rest. That is why the Bible tells us that we are Elect from before the foundations of the world. That is the Biblical meaning of Rest. We can praise God every day for His Son, our Sabbath Rest.
 

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You have misunderstood the writer of Hebrews. They are making a parable to other scriptures that you should be reminded of.

Psalm 95 ish
Do not harden your hearts as you did at Meribah, as you did that day at Massah in the wilderness
Exo. 17 ish
Therefore the people quarreled with Moses and said, "Give us water that we may drink." And Moses said to them, "Why do you quarrel with me? Why do you test the LORD?"
Num 20:13 ish
Those were the waters of Meribah, because the sons of Israel contended with the LORD, and He proved Himself holy among them
Deu. 6:16 ish
You shall not put the LORD your God to the test, as you tested Him at Massah
Psalm 78:40
How often they rebelled against Him in the wilderness And grieved Him in the desert!
Etc...
Many more places it is written dDO NOT harden your heart's as they did in the wilderness. They did not enter into Sabbath and a whole generation of them died.
Today there remains a Sabbath rest. Rest as God did on the seventh day. Like Messiah does and the way the early assembly did. Only thing that makes it hard to enter in is the hard heart's of men.
 

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Another realization I came to as an ex Judaizer..Paul provides NO INSTRUCTION concerning observing days or clean meat laws in the epistles to the Gentiles which would have been the case if it was required from them.

Read Romans 14. A Judaizer cannot read this chapter coherently. It plainly says days and foods are irrelevant to the faith. The focus is on Jesus Christ and him sacrificed.
Look again.. Things sacrificed to idols, blood in it, etc.. The rest is taught on SABBATH in the synagogue. So yes he did teach on it and he didn't burden them with to much to soon. Just sin's that lead to death