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Duckybill

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Correct in your statement, no verses add "and keep the Sabbath." This is TRUE and CORRECT
But can you see this - Keep the Sabbath, for it is holy to you. Anyone who profanes it must surely be put to death. Whoever does any work on that day must be cut off from among his people

In this = For God so loved the world that He gave His one and only Son, that everyone who believes in Him shall not perish but have eternal life. For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through Him.
Whoever believes in Him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe has already been condemned, because he has not believed in the name of God’s one and only Son.

i SEE God's Sabbath Rest - Just as He commanded and Just as He fulfilled - Therefore i REST in HIM and have REST - Amen


i firmly believe that no one has ever fulfilled the Law except the Lord Jesus Christ.
i frimly believe that Moses will judge the unsaved Jews by the Law and they will be condemned by it.
i firmly believe that to try and follow the Law will FAIL just as it did for the nation Israel.
i firmly believe the Law is Good but we are UNABLE to keep it Perfectly and therefore must not go back to it for salvation.
i firmly believe JESUS fulfilled the Law and therefore He is our REST - you cannot add to the finished work of God - Sabbath Rest.
i firmly believe JESUS said, on the Cross - "It is Finished" - and God rested......
therefore
What i said at the top of this post is TRUE, which is the Law and the Sabbath Rest of God has been fulfilled in Christ.
If this were not TRUE, then John 3: 16-18 cannot be True

Do you SEE and understand this?
Yes, I understand you still evaded your comment, "anyone that refuses OR works on His Sabbath shall never see LIFE".
 
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I answered every question. Do you know what Jesus called those who preach the Law but don't obey it?
For the third time...

What is the blessing of the law?

People throw around this phrase "curse of the law" from one chapter in Galatians and don't know what it means.... maybe if you understand the "blessing of the law", u will then understand the "curse of the law" and what actually went away with the Messiah's death.

What is the blessing of the law???
 
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Yes, I understand you still evaded your comment, "anyone that refuses OR works on His Sabbath shall never see LIFE".
Whoever believes in Him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe has already been condemned, because he has not believed in the name of God’s one and only Son.

Since the Lord Jesus Christ is God's Sabbath Rest for us.
Does not John 3: 18 say the exact same thing as "anyone that refuses OR works on His Sabbath shall never see LIFE".
 

Duckybill

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Correct in your statement, no verses add "and keep the Sabbath." This is TRUE and CORRECT
But can you see this - Keep the Sabbath, for it is holy to you. Anyone who profanes it must surely be put to death. Whoever does any work on that day must be cut off from among his people
How many have you executed? Oh that's right, you just pick the easy parts.
 

Duckybill

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Whoever believes in Him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe has already been condemned, because he has not believed in the name of God’s one and only Son.

Since the Lord Jesus Christ is God's Sabbath Rest for us.
Does not John 3: 18 say the exact same thing as "anyone that refuses OR works on His Sabbath shall never see LIFE".
What do you do to obey your Sabbath? What are you saying we must do to "see LIFE"? I don't think you know.
 

Duckybill

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For the third time...

What is the blessing of the law?

People throw around this phrase "curse of the law" from one chapter in Galatians and don't know what it means.... maybe if you understand the "blessing of the law", u will then understand the "curse of the law" and what actually went away with the Messiah's death.

What is the blessing of the law???
How many times do I have to answer that? lol
It's Deut 28

Now go ahead and ask again. lol
 
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How many have you executed? Oh that's right, you just pick the easy parts.
Even if that was true and some people are only keeping the easy parts how is that evidence that we aren't still instructed to keep them???

Is it better to just throw the baby out with the bathwater?
 

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Even if that was true and some people are only keeping the easy parts how is that evidence that we aren't still instructed to keep them???

Is it better to just throw the baby out with the bathwater?

IF you can't keep all, you are keeping none.
IF you broke One, you have broken all


see :)
 

Duckybill

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Even if that was true and some people are only keeping the easy parts how is that evidence that we aren't still instructed to keep them???

Is it better to just throw the baby out with the bathwater?
What are your Sabbath beliefs for Christians? DavidTree won't tell us.
 
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How many times do I have to answer that? lol
It's Deut 28
Now go ahead and ask again. lol

That makes absolutely no sense... The blessing of the law is Deut 28??? I did not ask to name a place in scripture that contains blessings.

Maybe if I rephrase it will help you out... How do you obtain blessings of the law as opposed to curses of the law???
 

Duckybill

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That makes absolutely no sense... The blessing of the law is Deut 28??? I did not ask to name a place in scripture that contains blessings.

Maybe if I rephrase it will help you out... How do you obtain blessings of the law as opposed to curses of the law???
Since Christians are NOT UNDER THE LAW PERIOD your question nonsense. We have a BETTER Covenant.

Hebrews 7:22 (NKJV)
22 by so much more Jesus has become a surety of a better covenant.
 

CS1

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Since Christians are NOT UNDER THE LAW PERIOD your question nonsense.
that is true we are under grace if we are justified by the law then we are not under grace.


I wish them well in their endeavors to keep the whole law but remember, you can't break the law then appeal your error with grace.
The mentality for breaking the law is Judgement. You who are justified by grace think you can return to the law?

LOL, you are already guilty and were let go because of the work of the cross now seek to live by the very thing that condemns you?

Be my guest
 

Duckybill

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that is true we are under grace if we are justified by the law then we are not under grace.


I wish them well in their endeavors to keep the whole law but remember, you can't break the law then appeal your error with grace.
The mentality for breaking the law is Judgement. You who are justified by grace think you can return to the law?

LOL, you are already guilty and were let go because of the work of the cross now seek to live by the very thing that condemns you?

Be my guest
I'm not under the Law. Never have been. It was ONLY for Israel. Nobody else.
 
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wrong that is very much in context YOu are required to keep the whole law friend and if you broken one you have broken all
The whole point of that statement is that we will all fall short and require grace to be saved.... that is not evidence that the law no longer applies.
 
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I'm not under the Law. Never have been. It was ONLY for Israel. Nobody else.

Right.....


Leviticus 24:22

Ye shall have one manner of law, as well for the stranger, as for one of your own country: for I am the Lord your God.


Exodus 12:49

A single law exists for the native and the alien who resides among you.



Exodus 20:8-10

“Remember the Sabbath day, maintaining its holiness. 9 Six days you are to labor and do all your work, 10 but the seventh day is a Sabbath to the Lord your God. You are not to do any work—neither you, nor your son, nor your daughter, nor your male or female servant, nor your livestock, nor any foreigner who lives among you.



Romans 2:6-11


6 For he will repay everyone according to what that person has done: 7 eternal life to those who strive for glory, honor, and immortality by patiently doing good; 8 but wrath and fury for those who in their selfish pride refuse to believe the truth and practice wickedness instead. 9 There will be suffering and anguish for every human being who practices doing evil, for Jews first and for Greeks as well. 10 But there will be glory, honor, and peace for everyone who practices doing good, initially for Jews but also for Greeks as well, 11 because God does not show partiality.