Salvation

[MesMom]

Last night I was asked a question I was not able to answer so I need your help. The question posed to me is this:

If someone is born in a place that never hears about God,Christianity or Jesus Christ can they be saved? This person grew up and lived a life that was good and virtuous - what happens to them after their existence on earth has ended?

Can you help me answer this please!!

 

[Trax]

Last night I was asked a question I was not able to answer so I need your help. The question posed to me is this:

If someone is born in a place that never hears about God,Christianity or Jesus Christ can they be saved? This person grew up and lived a life that was good and virtuous - what happens to them after their existence on earth has ended?

Can you help me answer this please!!

The person would go to hell. Jesus said, you must be born again. He also said to go preach the
good news of Him to all the world. If there was a chance this person could be saved without
hearing of Jesus, then you don't need to tell the whole world. But He said to go tell them.

The next question you'll get is, "How can a God of love send a good person to hell who never
heard?" Hearing about Jesus is no guarantee a person will accept Jesus. If the person asking
isn't saved either, then you could ask, "if you heard and haven't accepted, why do you think
the person in question would accept?"

No matter how virtuous a person is, we all have that sin nature. God can not create a new
heaven and earth, and let that sin nature in. You would be back in the garden of eden
again, and soon, back to where we are now.

 

[Avinu]

I personally believe, for Yah is just, that people who have truly never heard of Yeshua/Jesus by man in any way, YHVH Himself reveals Himself to them just as He did so many times in scripture. This is one place that is the most literal meaning of YHVH knowing their heart. As scripture also says, there is no where that YHVH isn't. He doesn't need us for people to be reached. Hope this helped some. Shalom

 

[AnandaHya]

Last night I was asked a question I was not able to answer so I need your help. The question posed to me is this:

If someone is born in a place that never hears about God,Christianity or Jesus Christ can they be saved? This person grew up and lived a life that was good and virtuous - what happens to them after their existence on earth has ended?

Can you help me answer this please!!

I believe these verses apply and they are a law unto themselves and have the law written in their hearts, therefore they are not among the lawless but will be judge by thoughts and conscience:

Romans 2

12 For as many as have sinned without law will also perish without law, and as many as have sinned in the law will be judged by the law 13 (for not the hearers of the law are just in the sight of God, but the doers of the law will be justified; 14 for when Gentiles, who do not have the law, by nature do the things in the law, these, although not having the law, are a law to themselves, 15 who show the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and between themselves their thoughts accusing or else excusing them) 16 in the day when God will judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ, according to my gospel.


Do you not know that the law was delivered by the hands of angels?

Psalm 19
New King James Version (NKJV)

19 The heavens declare the glory of God;
And the firmament shows His handiwork.
2 Day unto day utters speech,
And night unto night reveals knowledge.
3 There is no speech nor language
Where their voice is not heard.
4 Their line[a] has gone out through all the earth,
And their words to the end of the world.

 

[AnandaHya]

Revelation 14:6
Then I saw another angel flying in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach to those who dwell on the earth—to every nation, tribe, tongue, and people—

 

[Trax]

I personally believe, for Yah is just, that people who have truly never heard of Yeshua/Jesus by man in any way, YHVH Himself reveals Himself to them just as He did so many times in scripture. This is one place that is the most literal meaning of YHVH knowing their heart. As scripture also says, there is no where that YHVH isn't. He doesn't need us for people to be reached. Hope this helped some. Shalom

Rom 10:14-15 How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher? (15) And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things!

 

[AnandaHya]

Acts 17
TO THE UNKNOWN GOD.

Therefore, the One whom you worship without knowing, Him I proclaim to you: 24 “God, who made the world and everything in it, since He is Lord of heaven and earth, does not dwell in temples made with hands. 25 Nor is He worshiped with men’s hands, as though He needed anything, since He gives to all life, breath, and all things. 26 And He has made from one blood[c] every nation of men to dwell on all the face of the earth, and has determined their preappointed times and the boundaries of their dwellings, 27 so that they should seek the Lord, in the hope that they might grope for Him and find Him, though He is not far from each one of us; 28 for in Him we live and move and have our being, as also some of your own poets have said, ‘For we are also His offspring.’ 29 Therefore, since we are the offspring of God, we ought not to think that the Divine Nature is like gold or silver or stone, something shaped by art and man’s devising. 30 Truly, these times of ignorance God overlooked, but now commands all men everywhere to repent, 31 because He has appointed a day on which He will judge the world in righteousness by the Man whom He has ordained. He has given assurance of this to all by raising Him from the dead.”

 

[Avinu]

Rom 10:14-15 How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher? (15) And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things

Is not the Ruach Hakadesh(Holy Spirit) not the ultimate leader and revealer of the truth? And as AnandHya put above from Rev. that an angel of the LORD will go out to the rest of the world to preach the gospel to those who haven't been reached. Can YHVH not reveal Himself to those in the world that man can't or hasn't reached? Wouldn't we be limiting Him to even think their are those who can't possibly know who He is? We are finite, but He is infinite. Amen?

 

[Trax]

Is not the Ruach Hakadesh(Holy Spirit) not the ultimate leader and revealer of the truth? And as AnandHya put above from Rev. that an angel of the LORD will go out to the rest of the world to preach the gospel to those who haven't been reached. Can YHVH not reveal Himself to those in the world that man can't or hasn't reached? Wouldn't we be limiting Him to even think their are those who can't possibly know who He is? We are finite, but He is infinite. Amen?

If you are Mormon, I can understand why you believe this. Since they believe Jesus
appeared in the Americas after His resurrection. It is wishful thinking and false doctrine.
I provided scripture on how the system is set up.

 

[Avinu]

If you are Mormon, I can understand why you believe this. Since they believe Jesus
appeared in the Americas after His resurrection. It is wishful thinking and false doctrine.
I provided scripture on how the system is set up.

I could of just fallen out of my seat laughing, if you think I'm mormon. If that is the case, then you truly have no clue who I am. You're right, mormonism is false doctrine. What scripture did you provide that shows how the system is set up?

 

[peacefulbeliever]

Last night I was asked a question I was not able to answer so I need your help. The question posed to me is this:

If someone is born in a place that never hears about God,Christianity or Jesus Christ can they be saved? This person grew up and lived a life that was good and virtuous - what happens to them after their existence on earth has ended?

Can you help me answer this please!!

It is my understanding that God will judge those not born again on their works; things they have done whether good or bad.

 

[Red33]

Look at the following verses in light of the heavens that all people, no matter where they live, can lift up their eyes and look up ...

Ps 19:1 The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork.

Ps 50:6 And the heavens shall declare his righteousness: for God [is] judge himself. Selah.

Ps 97:6 The heavens declare his righteousness, and all the people see his glory.

Meditate on these verses and see what God ministers to you about them concerning the Creator and the goodness of God that would lead all men unto Himself. If a man has his abode in a place that has never heard the name of Jesus Christ, yet they worship in their spirit the One that created the heavens that declare the glory of God, do you think that God would be unjust and not impute His righteousness to them or send those that have been raised up to preach His name and reveal the One they have been worshiping as Creator? This is why we are called to go and preach the gospel of Jesus Christ in all the world and in the uttermost parts of the earth. God is perfect in justice and just as He is with those who never entered into the age of accountability of understanding the gospel so is he that have never heard His name.

 

[tribesman]

Last night I was asked a question I was not able to answer so I need your help. The question posed to me is this:

If someone is born in a place that never hears about God,Christianity or Jesus Christ can they be saved? This person grew up and lived a life that was good and virtuous - what happens to them after their existence on earth has ended?

Can you help me answer this please!!

Every person that will ever be saved will receive salvation by the very same principles. They will have to be atoned for and have the righteousness of Christ imputed to them. This is the righteousness of God, which is revealed in the gospel and the just shall live by faith (Rom.1.17). No one can believe unless they hear the Word of God (Rom. 10:17). So how can the heathen believe without hearing and believing/obeying the gospel? They cannot.

 

[Trax]

I could of just fallen out of my seat laughing, if you think I'm mormon. If that is the case, then you truly have no clue who I am. You're right, mormonism is false doctrine. What scripture did you provide that shows how the system is set up?

Never said you were mormon. I said **IF** you were....I could understand why you
would think that. Since you claim you aren't, I have to say, get back to the Bible.
And the scripture Rom 10:14-15, which I have already posted to you.

 

[Avinu]

Never said you were mormon. I said **IF** you were....I could understand why you
would think that. Since you claim you aren't, I have to say, get back to the Bible.
And the scripture Rom 10:14-15, which I have already posted to you.

I only go by what scripture says. And as for Romans 10:14-15 is not how the system is set up. But I think we will just agree to disagree.

 

[resurrection33]

Last night I was asked a question I was not able to answer so I need your help. The question posed to me is this:

If someone is born in a place that never hears about God,Christianity or Jesus Christ can they be saved? This person grew up and lived a life that was good and virtuous - what happens to them after their existence on earth has ended?

Can you help me answer this please!!

Jesus said that the law and prophets depend on two commandments: We are to love the Lord our God with all our hearts, minds, and souls, and love our neighbors as ourselves. I think anyone who obeys these two commandments will do fine.

 

[Laodicea]

Last night I was asked a question I was not able to answer so I need your help. The question posed to me is this:

If someone is born in a place that never hears about God,Christianity or Jesus Christ can they be saved? This person grew up and lived a life that was good and virtuous - what happens to them after their existence on earth has ended?

Can you help me answer this please!!

Thankfully God is the judge, people will be judged on the light they have and whether they lived up to that light.
Luke 12:47-48
(47) And that servant, which knew his lord's will, and prepared not himself, neither did according to his will, shall be beaten with many stripes.
(48) But he that knew not, and did commit things worthy of stripes, shall be beaten with few stripes. For unto whomsoever much is given, of him shall be much required: and to whom men have committed much, of him they will ask the more.

 

[Israel]

Last night I was asked a question I was not able to answer so I need your help. The question posed to me is this:

If someone is born in a place that never hears about God,Christianity or Jesus Christ can they be saved? This person grew up and lived a life that was good and virtuous - what happens to them after their existence on earth has ended?

Can you help me answer this please!!

PLEASE do not take ear to such nonsense that such a person's fate is to perish!

Those who truly know Jesus will only judge this. That if one man died for all, then all were dead!

It is His work to save all of mankind and He lost not one except the son of perdition. The old man is dead in Christ. It is only a question when that happens in every individual.

As much as you may hear about the "jesus" they sell on the tv and in the church, there is a gross famine in the earth and like the bible states, the love of many has waxed cold! Not many teach or preach the truth and it is cast to the ground! We must believe in our hearts and confess with our mouths will be saved.

Romans 10:14-15

14How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher?

15And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things!

 

[Avinu]

Scripture doesn't say anywhere that Yeshua died for ALL, it says He died for the MANY, because not all will be saved.

 

[resurrection33]

Scripture doesn't say anywhere that Yeshua died for ALL, it says He died for the MANY, because not all will be saved.

Those that turn to him will be saved.