Satan Has NO LEGAL RIGHTS!

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AnandaHya

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Whether you are saved or NOT, Satan has NO rights to you.

GOD owns the WHOLE world and for a time He allowed pretensions and blasphemies to occur even in Heaven, but Jesus died on the cross and His church proclaims as a testimony even to the powers in Heaven that GOD RULES and Satan and his minions are just pretenders to the throne.

Some people say if you sin then Satan has a "legal right" it is a LIE. Satan never has and never will have a "right" to you.

Sin has consequences and punishments attached to it. That is the power of SIN.

Satan sins but he has less power then he likes people to think. He is essentially powerless except to deceive and twist what is already in place. What GOD has set in place to keep the universe functioning as it should.

God did NOT give Satan power over people who sin. He made consequences to sin which included withdrawing His protection from people who live in habitual unrepentant sin.

It is NOT that He tells demons to attack people who sin, but that He stands and calls for them as they walk further and farther into the darkness infested with demons and lies.

He waits patiently for them to cry out "God, what have I done? God save me! God Where is your Light?"

A single cry of the heart, a single thought and God is quick to save. Quick to answer and rescue even the most wretched sinner from the pits of filth and darkness they may have wandered in.

when the ground under you feels like sinking sand. CRY OUT TO JESUS!

You are not just some wondering soul. God has a Home for you.

Remember God thinks you are someone worth dying for.

[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ooN1BKqUeE&feature=related[/video]

Don't let the lies and the strongholds the demons of your past or present keep you from the truth.

Seek the Kingdom of GOD. Reach out for GOD and He draws near to you.

Will you answer when He knocks on your heart? Does He have a home there? Do you sup with Him daily?

May God bless and keep you.

Love always :)
 
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Abiding

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Yes this legal right fable is pretty common today, but untrue.
although who you yield yourself servants to obey is your master Rom6:16
we have been delivered from the power of darkness into the Kingdom
of His dear Son Col1:13

But legal rights? No never has that been the case.
 
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MaggieMye

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The CONSEQUENCES of sin IS that it gives the demonic RIGHTS TO YOUR SOUL.

You are wrong in your assumption.

If you sin, you give the devil and demons PERMISSION to have at you. SIN IS THEIR PERMISSION. Deal with it or live lives of bondage.
Maggie
 
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Crossfire

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The CONSEQUENCES of sin IS that it gives the demonic RIGHTS TO YOUR SOUL.

You are wrong in your assumption.

If you sin, you give the devil and demons PERMISSION to have at you. SIN IS THEIR PERMISSION. Deal with it or live lives of bondage.
Maggie

I have to agree with Maggie on this one. Sin gives Satan every right to interfere in our lives. Scriptures is clear, you will reap what you sow. In God's economy if you sow love, you will reap love. If you sow hate, you will reap hate. If you sow respect, you will reap respect. If you sow animosity, you will reap animosity. Now this does not mean that bad things don't happen to good people or that good things don't happen to bad people but that because we also live in a fallen world with an economy of it's own.

This is why consecration is so important and the reason why I bring up it so much in conversation. Consecration limits what Satan can and can not do in your life. It's very rare that a person goes to jail for a crime that they didn't commit or get pregnant out of wedlock when you haven't engaged in fornication. It's basically the same premise.
 
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Israel

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If Satan truly has no legal right to any of us, why then still believe that he has stolen any one of us away from our Father? He shall not share His throne with iniquity.
 
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If Satan truly has no legal right to any of us, why then still believe that he has stolen any one of us away from our Father? He shall not share His throne with iniquity.
Satan has no right nor ever has had to any man or woman ever born on this earth.
What did God say to Cain when his offering of grains and fruits was refused by the Lord because of the mindset and manner of his offering?
  1. Why art thou wroth? and why is thy countenance fallen?
  2. If thou doest well, shalt thou not be accepted? and if thou doest not well, sin lieth at the door. And unto thee shall be his desire, and thou shalt rule over him.
  3. Satans desire is to rule over man and when we sin we accept his governance over us!
  4. If we reject Satan and do well we shall rule over him instead This is what Jesus did when he refused the temptations of Satan in the desert.
 
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The CONSEQUENCES of sin IS that it gives the demonic RIGHTS TO YOUR SOUL.

You are wrong in your assumption.

If you sin, you give the devil and demons PERMISSION to have at you. SIN IS THEIR PERMISSION. Deal with it or live lives of bondage.
Maggie
What legal right did Satan have to go after Job? Job was perfect and upright, one that feared God and eschewed evil (Job 1:1,7)? Job did not live in sin, he was perfect and upright, yet Satan was permitted to touch all that Job had but was not to lay a hand upon him. Job's friends thought that the things that were befalling him were because of sin, but Job had not sinned.

This notion that Satan has any kind of rights at all upon the believer that has been purchased by the blood of Christ, sealed by the Holy Spirit and placed in Christ and is hid with Christ in God, is not positionally true nor is it experientially true for the believer who walks by faith in the promises of God. If Satan is given a place in a believer's life it has nothing to do with having access through legal rights, birth rights, jurisdictional rights, or even access through the flesh and the old sin nature.

It has to do with a supernatural planned strategic effort by the devil to bring the believer back into bondage to hinder the testimony of Christ and the grace of God to incapacitate that believer from receiving grace and mercy from God. The ones that are having the greatest impact for the Lord Jesus Christ will be the ones targeted in this manner and they will be the target for the whiles and fiery darts of the devil's projections that includes many diverse forms of slander, accusations and malignity against those that have God's integrity and live by very word of God.
 
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AnandaHya

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The CONSEQUENCES of sin IS that it gives the demonic RIGHTS TO YOUR SOUL.

You are wrong in your assumption.

If you sin, you give the devil and demons PERMISSION to have at you. SIN IS THEIR PERMISSION. Deal with it or live lives of bondage.
Maggie
no that is a lie. your choice to believe that lie but it is still a lie and a sin to continue repeating it and saying it is God's truth.

It is like saying if you don't pay the mob boss their "protection" money that gives their thugs a right to harass and destroy your business.

No MY God is not like that. I do not worship a God who has to use fear and intimidation to force people to love and obey Him and I pray people stop slandering His name.

If the god you worship tells you these lies we are not worshipping the same entity.

Even Satan knows the Bible and how to twist it.

SIN causes a lot of things but DEMONS NEVER have rights. they are rejected scum who want to oppress God's chosen and beloved creation.

Satan does not rule Hell any better then a mob boss rules his domain: with fear and oppression, rewarding loyalty to those who spread his propaganda of how to fear and worship him.

Jesus did not teach this. He came to SAVE the world NOT Condemn it. People's actions and responses and who they say they follow, those are the things that will condemn them on judgment day.

Abraham will rise up and say "they Lie, they did not do what I told them"

God tells us in His Bible: they worship me with their mouths but their hearts are far from me.

He tells us of how people can not stand the truth and follow after the doctrines of demons.

Demons want people to think they have power and want people to worship and think that they have rights to torment God's creation but they LIE.

God tells us soon He will cast them into HELL where they Belong. they have the RIGHT to burn in Hell with all who listen and willfully seek their lies and false promise of power, money and material possessions.

there is NO bondage if one lives in God's LIGHT and His TRUTH. JESUS paid the price for FREEDOM from bondage.

God did NOT give us a spirit of FEAR but of Power, love and Truth!
 

jandian

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Whether you are saved or NOT, Satan has NO rights to you.

GOD owns the WHOLE world and for a time He allowed pretensions and blasphemies to occur even in Heaven, but Jesus died on the cross and His church proclaims as a testimony even to the powers in Heaven that GOD RULES and Satan and his minions are just pretenders to the throne.

Some people say if you sin then Satan has a "legal right" it is a LIE. Satan never has and never will have a "right" to you.

Sin has consequences and punishments attached to it. That is the power of SIN.

Satan sins but he has less power then he likes people to think. He is essentially powerless except to deceive and twist what is already in place. What GOD has set in place to keep the universe functioning as it should.

God did NOT give Satan power over people who sin. He made consequences to sin which included withdrawing His protection from people who live in habitual unrepentant sin.

It is NOT that He tells demons to attack people who sin, but that He stands and calls for them as they walk further and farther into the darkness infested with demons and lies.

He waits patiently for them to cry out "God, what have I done? God save me! God Where is your Light?"

A single cry of the heart, a single thought and God is quick to save. Quick to answer and rescue even the most wretched sinner from the pits of filth and darkness they may have wandered in.

when the ground under you feels like sinking sand. CRY OUT TO JESUS!

You are not just some wondering soul. God has a Home for you.

Remember God thinks you are someone worth dying for.

[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ooN1BKqUeE&feature=related[/video]

Don't let the lies and the strongholds the demons of your past or present keep you from the truth.

Seek the Kingdom of GOD. Reach out for GOD and He draws near to you.

Will you answer when He knocks on your heart? Does He have a home there? Do you sup with Him daily?

May God bless and keep you.

Love always :)


Matthew 12:
43 “When an unclean spirit goes out of a man, he goes through dry places, seeking rest, and finds none. 44 Then he says, ‘I will return to my house from which I came.’ And when he comes, he finds it empty, swept, and put in order. 45 Then he goes and takes with him seven other spirits more wicked than himself, and they enter and dwell there; and the last state of that man is worse than the first. So shall it also be with this wicked generation.”



If we dont choose to give our lives to Christ, then the enemy being the ruthless roaring lion that he is, will not hesitate to take it.
 
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AnandaHya

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Satan has no right nor ever has had to any man or woman ever born on this earth.

What did God say to Cain when his offering of grains and fruits was refused by the Lord because of the mindset and manner of his offering?
  1. Why art thou wroth? and why is thy countenance fallen?
  2. If thou doest well, shalt thou not be accepted? and if thou doest not well, sin lieth at the door. And unto thee shall be his desire, and thou shalt rule over him.
  3. Satans desire is to rule over man and when we sin we accept his governance over us!
  4. If we reject Satan and do well we shall rule over him instead This is what Jesus did when he refused the temptations of Satan in the desert.
yes exactly. I would add to number 4. if we do not have the power on our own to reject sin in our lives we pray to JESUS and HE is our intercessor and helps us overcome. If we walk and submit to the law of the SPIRIT we have no worries. for worries end where Faith begins !

Our pastor today (among other topics) talked about how worry can eat away at faith.
 
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selenah

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Whether you are saved or NOT, Satan has NO rights to you.

GOD owns the WHOLE world and for a time He allowed pretensions and blasphemies to occur even in Heaven, but Jesus died on the cross and His church proclaims as a testimony even to the powers in Heaven that GOD RULES and Satan and his minions are just pretenders to the throne.

Some people say if you sin then Satan has a "legal right" it is a LIE. Satan never has and never will have a "right" to you.

Sin has consequences and punishments attached to it. That is the power of SIN.

Satan sins but he has less power then he likes people to think. He is essentially powerless except to deceive and twist what is already in place. What GOD has set in place to keep the universe functioning as it should.

God did NOT give Satan power over people who sin. He made consequences to sin which included withdrawing His protection from people who live in habitual unrepentant sin.

It is NOT that He tells demons to attack people who sin, but that He stands and calls for them as they walk further and farther into the darkness infested with demons and lies.

He waits patiently for them to cry out "God, what have I done? God save me! God Where is your Light?"

A single cry of the heart, a single thought and God is quick to save. Quick to answer and rescue even the most wretched sinner from the pits of filth and darkness they may have wandered in.

when the ground under you feels like sinking sand. CRY OUT TO JESUS!

You are not just some wondering soul. God has a Home for you.

Remember God thinks you are someone worth dying for.


Don't let the lies and the strongholds the demons of your past or present keep you from the truth.

Seek the Kingdom of GOD. Reach out for GOD and He draws near to you.

Will you answer when He knocks on your heart? Does He have a home there? Do you sup with Him daily?

May God bless and keep you.

Love always :)
I've been thinking about this all day and I just wanted to say thanks for posting this. When I first saw this it was weird because last night I was terrified...I'm not really sure how to say it.

It's like God was trying to tell me something because everything said was said as if it was directed right at me. Anyways I just wanted to say thanks.
 
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Ramon

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On one hand, some are right, and on the other other's are right.

Someone mentioned Job. God has all power, and Satan cannot do anything he is not permitted to do. All powers are subject to him, so in this Satan had no right to do anything unless God permits it. Now, there are several cases. In the case of Job, God permitted it, to test Job, not to punish him or anything. God does this many times with his own, as he lets them grow this way, but he never puts more on us that we can bear.

Now, those who are not under God's protection are subject to evil. They have no protection. They live life without knowing what will happen, or without any hope. And when Satan comes to attack them they are left to themselves, unless they call on the Lord to deliver them.

Like when the Lord sent one to be a lying spirit in the mouths of the prophets that prophesied. God allowed them to be deluded and believe the lies of the prophets to prove himself.

So, everything, whether done by God, or by Satan, is only permitted. One might say, why does God permit evil? God hates evil, but many people love it. God says repent, but people don't care to. So if they choose death, then God will give them death, if they choose life, God will give them life. God is letting those who desire to be destroyed, be destroyed, and those who desire to be saved be saved. It is fair, not harsh, he gives us a choice.

Well, may Jesus bless you.

One more thing, the third case is that some things are simply done for his glory. Whether one was born this way or that, or raised this way or that, in the end, they will be saved, because God has chosen them. This is something that no one can change or affect.

May Jesus bless you.
 
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MaggieMye

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Job did not live in sin, he was perfect and upright, yet Satan was permitted to touch all that Job had but was not to lay a hand upon him. Job feared for the salvation and eternal destination of his children Job 1: When the days of feasting had completed their cycle, Job would send and consecrate them, rising up early in the morning and offering burnt offerings according to the number of them all; for Job said, “Perhaps my sons have sinned and cursed God in their hearts.” Thus Job did continually. Job did not sin but he did fear and not trust his children to walk rightly with God. So there was fear. Satan was permitted BY GOD for the purpose of God manifesting His power, authority and love. He took away all, but gave so much more and never forsook Job. Job was NOT perfect, but he was blameless in his walk. No man was perfect but Christ.

no that is a lie. your choice to believe that lie but it is still a lie and a sin to continue repeating it and saying it is God's truth. It is not a lie. It is truth that you cannot yet understand.

It is like saying if you don't pay the mob boss their "protection" money that gives their thugs a right to harass and destroy your business. Very bad illustration. The truth is that if you don't repent, cast off and break off curses that come through the blood line with the damaged DNA caused by sin, a person DOES suffer.

No MY God is not like that. I do not worship a God who has to use fear and intimidation to force people to love and obey Him and I pray people stop slandering His name. You have it backwards!! The God I worship makes available the knowledge of the spiritual realm (the OT is FULL of spiritual parallels with all the evil kings representing principalities in the spiritual realm) so that I can use the authority given to me by Christ to get and remain free from bondage. He does not use fear, but gives KNOWLEDGE. He does not use intimidation but rather gives a Doer of the Word strategy with which to combat the evil that Satan attempts to bring to my life. You have much to learn, AnandHya, about how the spiritual world works. People DIE because they lack this knowledge. Hos 4:6, Prov 5:23, 7:7, 9:16, 10:21. Ask Holy Spirit for revelation on these things. It IS ALL Biblical.

If the god you worship tells you these lies we are not worshipping the same entity. That might be! The God I worship is the CREATOR of all, the One who came and died for me and rose from the dead and gave authority and power to man to overcome evil. If you think the things I teach are slanderous, you do NOT know God.
 
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Abiding

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Im not dead and i havnt any troubles from demons. I have been translated out of the power
of darkness into the Kingdom of His dear Son. If people want to do extra work...fine. But i
will attest that it isnt necessary. Resist temptation, arm youself with the truth of the gospel.
Keep your mind pure taking captive thoughts that are not truth, pray and trust. That does it. :)
The only time i even think about demons is when someone else brings it up.
 
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AnandaHya

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generational curses are another lie that demons like to throw out at you.

God provides Knowledge but there is WORLDLY Knowledge and GODLY Knowledge from above. The flesh tries to raise itself up and tell everyone else they got something special. they ARE something special cuz they got it and YOU DON"T.

I think I'd rather read God's word's then converse with someone who has WORLDY Knowledge. I think I'd rather talk to GOD and be ignorant of EVIL and filled with HIS light and His wisdom then my own.

So for my brothers and sisters out there who are wondering. Here are the Bible verses that exposes the lies of generational curses. It is a direct command for people to STOP saying that the sins of the father are imputed to the children. It is God declaring that each person will be judged by their actions:

It is also found in Jeremiah 31

Ezekiel 18

A False Proverb Refuted

1 The word of the LORD came to me again, saying, 2 “What do you mean when you use this proverb concerning the land of Israel, saying:


‘ The fathers have eaten sour grapes,
And the children’s teeth are set on edge’?

3 “As I live,” says the Lord GOD, “you shall no longer use this proverb in Israel.
4 “ Behold, all souls are Mine;
The soul of the father
As well as the soul of the son is Mine;
The soul who sins shall die.
5 But if a man is just
And does what is lawful and right;

6 If he has not eaten on the mountains,
Nor lifted up his eyes to the idols of the house of Israel,
Nor defiled his neighbor’s wife,
Nor approached a woman during her impurity;
7 If he has not oppressed anyone,
But has restored to the debtor his pledge;
Has robbed no one by violence,
But has given his bread to the hungry
And covered the naked with clothing;
8 If he has not exacted usury
Nor taken any increase,
But has withdrawn his hand from iniquity
And executed true judgment between man and man;
9 If he has walked in My statutes
And kept My judgments faithfully—
He is just;
He shall surely live!
”
Says the Lord GOD.


notice God says ALL Souls are HIS?

where in the BIBLE does it say any souls are NOT God's but Satan's? It says they(satan, his demons, fallen angels, servants of lawlessness) will be tossed in the pit and Suffer together.

the only right demons have is a one way ticket to Hell.

We should pray that God binds all demons who try and torment anyone who comes here and frees them from their lies and deceptions.

then all they will have to deal with is the strongholds they and the demons made that war against God. the pride, the thoughts, the beliefs that say "no God I'm right, I will not believe YOU and YOUR words. I will worship you with my mouth but my heart is far from You because I want to chase aft3r fables and illusions that will make me great and powerful instead of read YOUR words and humbly pray and seek YOUR will for my life"

People do not die for Lack of KNOWLEDGE.

they DIE from lack of FAITH in GOD. FAITH in CHRIST and His finished work. FAITH to do the works He created and saved us for. Faith in His love and by blasphemy of the Holy Spirit who brings that Faith and places in the NEW Hearts of God's children, who gives them NEW spirits to seek after God and strive towards that upward call.

2 Corinthians 10

The Spiritual War

1 Now I, Paul, myself am pleading with you by the meekness and gentleness of Christ—who in presence am lowly among you, but being absent am bold toward you. 2 But I beg you that when I am present I may not be bold with that confidence by which I intend to be bold against some, who think of us as if we walked according to the flesh. 3 For though we walk in the flesh, we do not war according to the flesh. 4 For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal but mighty in God for pulling down strongholds, 5 casting down arguments and every high thing that exalts itself against the knowledge of God, bringing every thought into captivity to the obedience of Christ, 6 and being ready to punish all disobedience when your obedience is fulfilled.


James 3

13 Who is wise and understanding among you? Let him show by good conduct that his works are done in the meekness of wisdom. 14 But if you have bitter envy and self-seeking in your hearts, do not boast and lie against the truth. 15 This wisdom does not descend from above, but is earthly, sensual, demonic. 16 For where envy and self-seeking exist, confusion and every evil thing are there. 17 But the wisdom that is from above is first pure, then peaceable, gentle, willing to yield, full of mercy and good fruits, without partiality and without hypocrisy. 18 Now the fruit of righteousness is sown in peace by those who make peace.
 
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zone

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Im not dead and i havnt any troubles from demons. I have been translated out of the power
of darkness into the Kingdom of His dear Son. If people want to do extra work...fine. But i
will attest that it isnt necessary. Resist temptation, arm youself with the truth of the gospel.
Keep your mind pure taking captive thoughts that are not truth, pray and trust. That does it. :)
The only time i even think about demons is when someone else brings it up.
ditto Abiding.

" If people want to do extra work...fine"

haha...so true.
playing with familiar spirits and calling it church actually does seem to activate them. so if anybody is giving the demonic any right to make a mess of things its the spiritual warfare religionists imo.
 
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AnandaHya

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oh I keep forgetting that yes some people do give demons rights by worshiping them and becoming their servants and trading their soul and use of their body and mouth for power, material gain, false sense of peace and tranquility, etc.

I tend to not pay attention to those people and praise God that He keeps most of them far far away from me and my loved ones.
 
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Crossfire

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Im not dead and i havnt any troubles from demons. I have been translated out of the power
of darkness into the Kingdom of His dear Son. If people want to do extra work...fine. But i
will attest that it isnt necessary. Resist temptation, arm youself with the truth of the gospel.
Keep your mind pure taking captive thoughts that are not truth, pray and trust. That does it. :)
The only time i even think about demons is when someone else brings it up.

My sentiments exactly.
 
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Crossfire

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It surprises me how little people understand sin.

From there very beginning in the Garden of Eden, sin is mankind's way of saying "Ok God, my way is better than your way". God's response is "Ok, if that's how you feel then you can have your way, however, since you feel your way is superior to mine, then your need to start fending for yourself." That is why God removed Adam & Eve from the Garden.

Ever since mankind has been subject to a very simple principle, you will reap what you sow. It doesn't matter if you are saved or not, sin is still man's way of proclaiming "Ok God, my way is better than your way". To that God responds, if that how you feel then have your way, but you will deal with the consequences." It is these consequences which usually lead us to repentance once we understand just how severly we messed things up.

Sin has consequences. Always has, always will. Regardless of whether you are saved or not, when you sin , you will have to face the consequences. Even if you repent of your sins, there are still consequences to your sin. Rob a bank, you will go to jail. Commit adultery and you will most likely end up divorced. Drive under the influence and you will most likely lose your license.

This is why I have little tolerance for doctrines which place little to no emphasis on the dangers of sin.
 
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My sentiments exactly.
Don't take this personal, but those that are being used by God, who are filled with the Spirit and walk in humility and in the Spirit, who are always going about preaching and teaching and doing the work of the Lord, who are not settled on their lees, but are fervent in their spirit and revealing Christ to a godless world of sinners, who intercede and pray continuously, who are not living in negative reactions through the flesh and who are continually being renewed and transformed in the spirit of their mind, laying their life down for the brethren instead of accusing and slandering them through a critical spirit, these are the ones who are being challenged by the devil and are being accused day and night because the power of God that is working in them mightily. They are the ones who are hated and having evil spoken against them and are being scrutinized for every word they say and work they are performing by grace through faith. These are the ones whose fruit are being considered to be evil though it be wrought in God. These are the ones that are being persecuted and reviled because of the testimony of Jesus Christ and the cross they take up on a daily basis.

We have an air and atmosphere of a self-righteous conceited disposition that seems to be projecting and infiltrating many segments of God's church, who live with an independent spirit that often rejects the body of Christ in the local assembly and down plays the pastor-teacher that God has raised up by casting suspicion and skepticism upon the word that is preached and the life that is lived by faith. The example we have in scripture, under the new testament church is in (3Jn 1)...

3Jn 1:9-11 I wrote unto the church: but Diotrephes, who loveth to have the preeminence among them, receiveth us not. 10 Wherefore , if I come , I will remember his deeds which he doeth , prating against us with malicious words: and not content therewith , neither doth he himself receive the brethren, and forbiddeth them that would , and casteth them out of the church. 11 Beloved, follow not that which is evil, but that which is good. He that doeth good is of God: but he that doeth evil hath not seen God.

Personality rapport breads familiar spirits through soul power relationships more than any other activity of the flesh and mind of the carnal insolent believer. Diotrephes had a problem with soul power and thought that he knew and understood more than the apostles and those that were sent by the apostles and prated against them with malicious words. He spoke evil of them to those that were in the church that received the words of the apostles and received those that were sent to preach and teach and because of his position he forbid and castigated out of the church those that would receive them. Ever met anyone who's like that and thinks like that? They despise the doctrine and the teacher that gathers believers in the local assembly and church and they do it through spirits of familiarity and by the infection of evil through soul power relationships. We have them right here on this site.