Satan Speaks against your love language

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The_highwayman

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So the dreams and visions which from the Bible were assumedly to be granted by God are being given to you from satan instead? How about instead of trying to blame it on demons just admit you had a weird dream? happens all the time to most people.
you certainly seem to have a form of godliness, YET continue to deny any power there of.

Make sure you pet God in the box you put him in, the next time you open the lid.
 
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So the dreams and visions which from the Bible were assumedly to be granted by God are being given to you from satan instead? How about instead of trying to blame it on demons just admit you had a weird dream? happens all the time to most people.
Either way - we have a more sure word of prophecy - take all thoughts captive to the obedience of Christ

Bad dreams could be a result of what you are watching on your TV as well - violence, horror movies, pornography - your brain doesn't forget any image and can randomly put images into story format as a dream - Do I think God could give you a dream, sure - but like I said - we have a more sure word of prophecy - so i'd see if it lines up

I know I was having a dream where I was super infuriated - it was strange, I woke up and punched the headboard - am I going to cast it off as a demonic attack, i could - but I still took my thoughts captive to Christ
 
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I would say that I don't think most people came here answering the post to what I was actually asking

Say your love language is physical touch, and your a single girl... Does it cause you to feel insecure? and possibly unsafe in your singleness? That could be an avenue satan uses to attack us
 
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you certainly seem to have a form of godliness, YET continue to deny any power there of.

Make sure you pet God in the box you put him in, the next time you open the lid.
I don't think that verse fits him that way highwayman, but the unloving attitude, and continual aggressive attacks might be fitting for another verse
 
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This post shows a total lack of understanding of mental illness. Schizophrenia is genetic in origin. While it is sometimes triggered by a poor environment, it generally manifests at a certain age, for instance, men usually get symptoms in their 20's. I saw a show about a young girls who got it at the age of 4 or 5, from a totally loving Christian home, and it was ascertained to be totally a result of weird genes. I know several people with this disease, and in no way is it related to a lifetime of Satan attacking their love language.

I think that book by Chapman has some superficial value, in understanding that people respond differently to love, and also give differently to relationships.

But it is NOT about mental illness! Repeat, NOT about mental illness!

Why are Christians so ignorant of the etiology of serious mental health issues? No wonder the stigma continues on and on against people who have these illnesses.

We can't be certain. Even so, this belief shouldn't cause a Christian to have stigma, is should render more love and prayer for that individual. I've worked in a professional setting with the mentally ill for a long time. I can say that I have seen many cases of biological psychosis from say quinine medication used to treat malaria in children. But I have also seen people who have voices, and these voices are like the ones described above. Psychosis does not necessarily mean the patient has mean voices, they're sometime nice ones, and some hallucinations are pleasant. However, some people suffer from mean spirited voices that direct them to kill themselves. I think there is a possibility that both organic illness is happening and for some people, they are indeed experiencing the doubtful messages that Satan feeds our minds. I've pondered over this for years and I'm quite certain that some who are suffering from anxiety, depression and psychotic episodes are experiencing a spiritual depravity, and if we can accept that, we can move people into faith based therapies, with clinicians who are equipped to handle spiritual crises with both traditional education and spiritual training. Many mental health practitioners I've known are athiest - I had to hide my Christianity when working in that field because it would have been a dangerous move, at least in the large urban hospital I worked in. Satan is a deceiver, he can mimic any natural born illness and disguise it so that person doesn't get proper support and treatment. And I truly do believe that is happening, that Satan has caused confusion and used our own voice, the natural one we experience in our conscious mind, against us.
 

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I don't think that verse fits him that way highwayman, but the unloving attitude, and continual aggressive attacks might be fitting for another verse
I just think a lot of nonsense has invaded christianity lately. The conspiracies, and legalism, and blaming anything bad on demons, and the overexaggerated focus on homosexuality(yes I get its a sin, but we arent called to be the sex police, and its not any worse than premarital sex, whic you see nothing about). Very little seems to be about Christ anymore. Rather people are taking the christian mantle and contorting it to what they want to crusade against.
 
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I just think a lot of nonsense has invaded christianity lately. The conspiracies, and legalism, and blaming anything bad on demons, and the overexaggerated focus on homosexuality(yes I get its a sin, but we arent called to be the sex police, and its not any worse than premarital sex, whic you see nothing about). Very little seems to be about Christ anymore. Rather people are taking the christian mantle and contorting it to what they want to crusade against.
is that what u see in cc? because if so i think u need a new pair of eyes your irritation may have blinded u.
 

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I just think a lot of nonsense has invaded christianity lately. The conspiracies, and legalism, and blaming anything bad on demons, and the overexaggerated focus on homosexuality(yes I get its a sin, but we arent called to be the sex police, and its not any worse than premarital sex, whic you see nothing about). Very little seems to be about Christ anymore. Rather people are taking the christian mantle and contorting it to what they want to crusade against.
I wonder how often you open prayer request threads, or you could start a praise thread. There are plenty of places here that revere Christ. If you feel a thread is doing things you don't like why is it so difficult to simply pass them by?
 

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Because these threads Im describing are the ones everyone sees because they are the ones on the front pages. Its a real great appearance for non-christians coming here...oh guess we were right, just a bunch of posts that are anti-gay and calling people anti-christs and blaming it on satan. No wonder the world mocks us, when that is what they see. Its embarrassing when your faith and belief system has become a joke to everyone because of all the loud-mouthed crazies associated with it.
 
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Because these threads Im describing are the ones everyone sees because they are the ones on the front pages. Its a real great appearance for non-christians coming here...oh guess we were right, just a bunch of posts that are anti-gay and calling people anti-christs and blaming it on satan. No wonder the world mocks us, when that is what they see. Its embarrassing when your faith and belief system has become a joke to everyone because of all the loud-mouthed crazies associated with it.
Assuming they were gone, would the world still love Christians?
Is the gate not narrow, with few people finding it?
Is Christianity just a matter of methods?
Are people who think they know the Lord, all going to heaven?

you have no care for these people, at all, do you want them to go to hell? do you even care?
 
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Because these threads Im describing are the ones everyone sees because they are the ones on the front pages. Its a real great appearance for non-christians coming here...oh guess we were right, just a bunch of posts that are anti-gay and calling people anti-christs and blaming it on satan. No wonder the world mocks us, when that is what they see. Its embarrassing when your faith and belief system has become a joke to everyone because of all the loud-mouthed crazies associated with it.
i will admit christians are hypocrites liars mean selfish and because of this we are mocked and laughed. and why shouldnt they? we are everything jesus taught us not to be, however there are those of us who have a deep love for god and others and plenty on cc. you however are rude impatiant and constantly complaining, i begin to wonder if u are saved at all or only one of those ppl who are christian by title only and dont even realized they are not saved.
 
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Because these threads Im describing are the ones everyone sees because they are the ones on the front pages. Its a real great appearance for non-christians coming here...oh guess we were right, just a bunch of posts that are anti-gay and calling people anti-christs and blaming it on satan. No wonder the world mocks us, when that is what they see. Its embarrassing when your faith and belief system has become a joke to everyone because of all the loud-mouthed crazies associated with it.
Mocking....... yeah, I've seen you do that.
Embarassing........ you're being that right now.
Loud-mouthed & crazy......... EVERY TIME I see your avatar in the Bible Discussion Forum, the first thing I wonder is "what's he gonna say this time?"

Perhaps you ought to read this 1st paragraph & jump all over this guy for being the only one in this thread that's acting genetically similar to a donkey!
 

Nautilus

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That or I just let you keep posting delusions and watering down this site with nonsense? I guess there are reasons why the bible discussion forum is the joke of other forums on this site. Threads like this.
 
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Satan copies what God does and this is why you need to test the Spirits. In Job Satan is talking in a vision of the night.
Job 4:13-17




[SUP]13 [/SUP]In disquieting thoughts from the visions of the night,
When deep sleep falls on men,
[SUP]14 [/SUP]Fear came upon me, and trembling,
Which made all my bones shake.
[SUP]15 [/SUP]Then a spirit passed before my face;
The hair on my body stood up.
[SUP]16 [/SUP]It stood still,
But I could not discern its appearance.
A form was before my eyes;
There was silence;
Then I heard a voice saying:
[SUP]17 [/SUP]‘Can a mortal be more righteous than God?
Can a man be more pure than his Maker?
Cheers to you and your wisdom, Shilo. It was indeed an evil spirit who visited Eliphaz in the night, prepping him to meet and accuse Job falsely which is just what happened. This night vision was hard on Job as it was supposed to have come from God, but Job really took a stand based on his righteous living.
 
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Has anyone one ever read the 5 love languages by Gary Chapman? whatever you think of the author doesn't matter, the concept of the book though is great

I also have the one - God speaks your love language - I like to express love by quality time - so I spend a lot of time with the Lord, I also receive love by words of Affirmation - so I love the Scriptures

I have heard this - That if you sing into a piano, say a G note, the G - string will vibrate - pretty cool

Satan also works like this - he doesn't have to put the wickedness in your heart, it's already there. All he has to do is speak that same note and your heart will go towards it. Speaks to lust, the lust in your heart responds

So I had this thought that Satan will use your love language, against you to kill, destroy, and so on

I can think of 2 separate occasions -probably most able to recognize - where I received verbal blows at me, in my own voice mind you - "They don't' like you, Why are you here, nobody cares about you" - all these in my voice attacking me.

Could it be that because my love language is words of affirmation, that the attacks of satan, the most powerful are the ones that verbally attack me, directly or indirectly?



We think of mental illness' - I wonder how many that may suffer from schizophrenia, there love language really is words of affirmation and Satan uses it against them


Just some thoughts - if you receive a different love language and you can relate to this - please share
Very good observation. I think my love language as far as receiving is words of affirmation. I totally broke down and cried when a minister, standing in the place of my dad, said to me, "You are a good son." This meant much more to me than when he said, "I am proud of you." As far as giving, my love language is definitely touch. I was a triplet in the womb, and we were all touching each other and got accustomed to touching and the intimacy of that before I was even born, so that has a lot to do with it. I can hardly talk to people without wanting to touch them: pat or squeeze their shoulder, hold their hand, touch their arm or face, etc. Of course, people can totally take this wrongly, especially the other gender, so I have to be careful. For me, it's not what is said in an exchange near as much as what is done in an interchange. Quality time is big for me too as far as receiving. Touch is my preferred way of relating to others; I like to 'get as close as possible' and let them know they are accepted (which is what identical twins may do in the womb with a third womb mate of a set of triplets).

What you shared about the voice and the piano strings is cool. I will try it sometime.

Yes, satan uses our 'love language' against us as every other thing. While I don't believe that each person must have one superior love language (just as one Christian can have more than two spiritual gifts to begin with and doesn't necessarily have to be more superior in a particular one), it is common sense that satan does use the good things God has created in us against us. For instance, my love language toward others is touch; my dad, who was abusive, decided he had to isolate me from my siblings. Seeing that we don't wrestle against people but against the enemy, it shouldn't be a stretch to say that the enemy is the one who was using my love language against me to harm me in the maximal way.

I agree with what you share about mental illness. I know someone right now who they say is bi-polar and manic-depressive. It didn't take long at all to ascertain that his real issue is childhood abuse, bitterness resulting from it, and low self-esteem. His manic-depression and bi-polar (his specifically) stems expressly from his self-hatred because of his abuse, not from chemical imbalances or any other such 'scientific notion'. God created us as tri-partite beings, and our souls take the weight of good and bad experiences. Out of these, we can develop all kinds of different mindsets and beliefs, including mental illnesses. I read where someone scoffed at the idea that mental illness can be tied to [matters of the soul and spirit, e.g. demonic]; but Christians should actually be front-runners in all fields of psychology since in Christ, everything that is complex (science, technology, spiritual principles, psychology, illness and disease, etc.) is made simple.
 
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The church today is absolutely ignorant on the subject of the the devil, how he operates what he does and his power. We fight against an enemy that we know absolutely nothing about and this is how he likes it. He likes working under the cloak of darkness. If you only knew what this vial thing and his mates get up to NON stop 24x7 it would blow your mind. You and I fight then we rest for a while then we fight again etc this thing NEVER rests! his entire miserable existence is about 3 things, how to Steal, Kill or destroy you and he has become pretty prolific at it. If you want to truly understand what this thing does so that you can guard yourself and your loved ones against him buy the ebook from Amazon called War on the Saints by Jess Penn lewis at a cost of 0.99c. Before you read it however MAKE SURE YOU PRAY for protection and bind this Vermont and his cronies with the Precious Blood of The Lord Jesus or you will receive revenge attacks as he does not want you or anyone to read it. The book was written 100 years ago and it is literally the manual on what this thing gets up to.
 
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Very good observation. I think my love language as far as receiving is words of affirmation. I totally broke down and cried when a minister, standing in the place of my dad, said to me, "You are a good son." This meant much more to me than when he said, "I am proud of you." As far as giving, my love language is definitely touch. I was a triplet in the womb, and we were all touching each other and got accustomed to touching and the intimacy of that before I was even born, so that has a lot to do with it. I can hardly talk to people without wanting to touch them: pat or squeeze their shoulder, hold their hand, touch their arm or face, etc. Of course, people can totally take this wrongly, especially the other gender, so I have to be careful. For me, it's not what is said in an exchange near as much as what is done in an interchange. Quality time is big for me too as far as receiving. Touch is my preferred way of relating to others; I like to 'get as close as possible' and let them know they are accepted (which is what identical twins may do in the womb with a third womb mate of a set of triplets).

What you shared about the voice and the piano strings is cool. I will try it sometime.

Yes, satan uses our 'love language' against us as every other thing. While I don't believe that each person must have one superior love language (just as one Christian can have more than two spiritual gifts to begin with and doesn't necessarily have to be more superior in a particular one), it is common sense that satan does use the good things God has created in us against us. For instance, my love language toward others is touch; my dad, who was abusive, decided he had to isolate me from my siblings. Seeing that we don't wrestle against people but against the enemy, it shouldn't be a stretch to say that the enemy is the one who was using my love language against me to harm me in the maximal way.

I agree with what you share about mental illness. I know someone right now who they say is bi-polar and manic-depressive. It didn't take long at all to ascertain that his real issue is childhood abuse, bitterness resulting from it, and low self-esteem. His manic-depression and bi-polar (his specifically) stems expressly from his self-hatred because of his abuse, not from chemical imbalances or any other such 'scientific notion'. God created us as tri-partite beings, and our souls take the weight of good and bad experiences. Out of these, we can develop all kinds of different mindsets and beliefs, including mental illnesses. I read where someone scoffed at the idea that mental illness can be tied to [matters of the soul and spirit, e.g. demonic]; but Christians should actually be front-runners in all fields of psychology since in Christ, everything that is complex (science, technology, spiritual principles, psychology, illness and disease, etc.) is made simple.

That last paragraph was spot on why I was bipolar as well(except the abuse, but a distant passive father) - and it is cool how God has brought me to recovery - if there is anything I can do with that - I'd be happy to help

It is huge - the father wound in men and women, and people don't realize it either. That is why God is a Father - fathers give identity to their children - and children operate from identity
 
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Mocking....... yeah, I've seen you do that.
Embarassing........ you're being that right now.
Loud-mouthed & crazy......... EVERY TIME I see your avatar in the Bible Discussion Forum, the first thing I wonder is "what's he gonna say this time?"



Perhaps you ought to read this 1st paragraph & jump all over this guy for being the only one in this thread that's acting genetically similar to a donkey!

is it really worth it? Proverbs 9:7
 
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I just think a lot of nonsense has invaded christianity lately. The conspiracies, and legalism, and blaming anything bad on demons, and the overexaggerated focus on homosexuality(yes I get its a sin, but we arent called to be the sex police, and its not any worse than premarital sex, whic you see nothing about). Very little seems to be about Christ anymore. Rather people are taking the christian mantle and contorting it to what they want to crusade against.
So, how can we set an example then? to get people to oneness in love
 
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is it really worth it? Proverbs 9:7
Point well made. I was coming from this angle:
Romans 2:1-3 (KJV) [SUP]1 [/SUP]Therefore thou art inexcusable, O man, whosoever thou art that judgest: for wherein thou judgest another, thou condemnest thyself; for thou that judgest doest the same things. [SUP]2 [/SUP]But we are sure that the judgment of God is according to truth against them which commit such things. [SUP]3 [/SUP]And thinkest thou this, O man, that judgest them which do such things, and doest the same, that thou shalt escape the judgment of God?

But you're right........I should have ignored him like everybody else.....Thanks. :)