Satanic history of feminism Part: I

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Dino246

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Scapegoating man, God The Father, Calling His Way, Word "Patriarchal," and the way of the serpent/evil woman/goddess "Good" is a cornerstone lie of Satan at the heart of feminism. "blame man for all, ignore god, we are now not accountable for our deeds having cast our sins on our husbands, fathers, sons; we are the goddess, we need no savior"
Your misinterpretation of Scripture is what I am calling "patriarchal". Your view is a perfect fulfillment of the consequence of sin spoken to Eve: "he shall rule over you".

Next time, quote my post, so you aren't tempted to imply that I wrote things that I didn't write.

Here is what The Word says about each woman's accountability and judgement unless they repent:
16The fathers shall not be put to death for the children, neither shall the children be put to death for the fathers: every man shall be put to death for his own sin.
17You shall not pervert the justice due the stranger, nor the fatherless; nor take a widow's clothing as pledge:
18But you shall remember that you were slave in Egypt, and the LORD your God redeemed you from there: therefore I command you to do this thing.
These verses from Deuteronomy 24 say nothing at all about "each woman's accountability and judgment unless they repent". They were spoken to Israel generally. I happily deleted your twisted commentary.
 

Dino246

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You aren't as close to being bright, as you think you are.

As I have already pointed out, cunning meant a skill/in today's language a trade.

That just flew right over your head and something like that can't fly very high :(

Genesis 25:27
And the boys grew: and Esau was a cunning hunter, a man of the field; and Jacob was a plain man, dwelling in tents.

Exodus 26:31
And thou shalt make a vail of blue, and purple, and scarlet, and fine twined linen of cunning work:

Exodus 28:6
And they shall make the ephod of gold, of blue, and of purple, of scarlet, and fine twined linen, with cunning work.

Exodus 35:35
Them hath he filled with wisdom of heart, to work all manner of work, of the engraver, and of the cunning workman...

1 Samuel 16:16
Let our lord now command thy servants, which are before thee, to seek out a man, who is a cunning player on an harp:

1 Chronicles 22:15
Moreover there are workmen with thee in abundance, hewers and workers of stone and timber, and all manner of cunning men for every manner of work.


SEE, IT IS SPEAKING OF SPECIAL SKILL OR SOMETHING YOU ARE INHERITED WITH!!

Stop arguing about things you are obviously clueless about!!
Your insults only reflect on you.

Your quotations are from the KJV, which is based heavily on Tyndale's work from the 16th century. Many words, including "cunning" no longer have the meaning they did 400 years ago. Consult a modern dictionary.
 

Jeauris

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You must belong to a church has let in sinful teachers, well again what are YOU going to do about it.

The jezebel spirit can only operate through fallen men. Dont blame believing women for fallen believing men who hang round unbelieving women who seduce them. JEsus tells YOU to Wise up!
Whoever this "Jesus" is you are talking about - this is a false name. Because my Jesus Christ does not say anything that goes against His Word, The Bible.

God speaks of all woman, especially woman with the arrogance of your words in Ecclesiastes: 7:26-29

26And I find more bitter than death the woman whose heart is snares and nets, and her hands are fetters: whosoever pleases God shall escape from her; but the sinner shall be taken by her.

27Behold, this have I found, says the preacher, adding one thing to another, to find out the reason:

28Which yet my soul seeks, but I find not: one man among a thousand have I found; but a woman among all those have I not found.

29Lo, this only have I found, that God has made man upright; but they have sought out many devices.

... God found 0 upright, wise woman. And now these feminazis, the most evil of all woman in history, have a vice grip on the world --

If you want to side with them, you will face God's wrath stored for them,- you shall reap what you so lady.


What I will do about it: Rebuke a woman proclaiming doctrines of demons so that my God's sheep can read them. You offer no scriptural basis for your heresies and hateful words for all men in the feminist way - even Jesus Christ. His instructions to you are not to debase yourself or in pride lift yourself above a man, above Christ, or above God in your vain imaginations. HE does not allow woman to do as you tried to do to me- preach, teach, lift yourself up as an authority over me, a man. Nor will Jesus allow you to do so if you have the guts to follow through completely with your antichrist, feminist gospel and proclaim your female superiority over Him, preach to Him, mock Him and call Him names like "So-called-male, Jesus;" will He allow you to teach him, correct Him, Lanolin?

Here are some of Christ's instructions for being a actual, Christian woman"

1Ti 2:9 In the same way also, I desire that women adorn themselves in decent clothing, with modesty and sensibleness, not adorned with braiding, or gold, or pearls, or costly clothing,
1Ti 2:10 but with good works, which becomes women professing godliness.
1Ti 2:11 Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection.
1Ti 2:12 But I do not allow a woman to teach, or to exercise authority over a man, but to be in silence.
1Ti 2:13 For Adam was first formed, then Eve.
1Ti 2:14 And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.
1Ti 2:15 But she will be kept safe through childbearing, if they continue in faith and love and holiness with sensibleness.

-- Feminists destroy this redemption by murdering their unborn babies before that experience can become a part of their redemption.

As you presume to think you are preaching to me - you are also doing this to Christ for as it is written "Whatever you do to the least of these (even a man who feminists like you consider less than human as Hitler did the Jews, note your "supposed males" comment) you do it unto Me (Christ).

3But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.

8For the man is not of the woman; but the woman of the man.

9Neither was the man created for the woman; but the woman for the man.


-- As a man-hating sexist, you claim that the spirit of Jezebel can only inhabit men. The Bible does not say this anywhere. Nothing you have said comes from God's Word, but from your vain, evil imaginations and the doctrines of feminist demons


------ Finally: Do you want to go to heaven, if you do not really know Jesus?? You continue to deny His Word- The Bible and what it says, suggesting you are very deceived or do not know Him.

-- If you do, do you want to avoid the Tribulation Christ mentions many times in His Word- female, feminist servants of Jezebel (All false religions like feminism riding The Beast- the antichrist and his spirit) will not be spared this time of greatest suffering in human history as Jesus explains in His Revelation, and read how God foretold how woman throughout history, especially in the age of feminism, would lead their men, families, churches, countries astray to the devil - for Eve's daughters are still the first to be deceived:



To the Church in Thyatira (Modern-Day denominations that teach other than what the Bible says, accept sexual sin, New Age, feminist doctrines for example)

Rev 2:18 And to the angel of the church in Thyatira write: The Son of God, He who has His eyes like a flame of fire and His feet like burnished metal, says these things:
Rev 2:19 I know your works and love and service and faith and your patience, and your works; and the last to be more than the first.
Rev 2:20 But I have a few things against you because you allow that woman Jezebel to teach, she saying herself to be prophetess, and to cause My servants to go astray, and to commit fornication, and to eat idol-sacrifices.
Rev 2:21 And I gave her time that she might repent of her fornication, and she did not repent.
Rev 2:22 Behold, I am throwing her into a bed, and those who commit adultery with her into great affliction, unless they repent of their deeds.
Rev 2:23 And I will kill her children with death. And all the churches will know that I am He who searches the reins and hearts, and I will give to every one of you according to your works.
Rev 2:24 But to you I say, and to the rest in Thyatira, as many as do not have this doctrine, and who have not known the depths of Satan, as they speak, I will put on you no other burden.
Rev 2:25 But that which you have, hold fast until I come.
Rev 2:26 And he who overcomes and keeps My works to the end, to him I will give power over the nations.
Rev 2:27 And he will rule them with a rod of iron, as the vessels of a potter they will be broken to pieces, even as I received from My Father.
Rev 2:28 And I will give him the Morning Star.
Rev 2:29 He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches.
 

Jeauris

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The Adversary proved that Eve could communicate and reason. If you read the transcript between the serpent and Eve, you can see what Eve is saying, is exactly how God taught her. She never questioned God, took His word for Gospel. She never needed to know what that fruit was all about. But she knew Adam wanted to know. She had been the voice of reason to Adam, in my opinion. She was a very good example of what a helpmate should be. Adam wanted that fruit enough, he allowed the serpent to twist a word here or there, where Eve didn't catch on. Then he blamed her and God.. Sounds like a narcissist!!
So... you were reading the Satanic Bible or getting your doctrine from Satanic feminist literature.

As and servant of God, I do not like heretics bringing their false gospels for people to be deceived by.

In Mark 13:31 Jesus says, "Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will not pass away," ... Your words will thank God, Obedient

In I Timothy 2- Christ describes how woman like Obedienttgogod are deceived and to on to deceive others.

13For Adam was first formed, then Eve.

14And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.

15Yet she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and love and holiness with propriety.

--- Accept American feminists and evil woman do not want the salvation work of childbirth, instead murdering over 56 million babies before they had a chance to fight back to date. That's more people than Hitler, Stalin, Chairman Mao put together.

Further - priestess of lovers of self-who would twist my God's Bible to make it look like Eve was innocent and Adam to blame for all:

When you have to account to Christ- the man, for all the man-hate, baby-killing, family destroying that you support in supporting feminism, what will you say? Better be a good speech
 

Jeauris

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I believe Adam had looked at that tree every day, from the moment, he was commanded not to eat of it. This tells me Adam was going to sin one way or another. The tree was a spiritual battle and why we see this lesson. The Adversary approached Eve, in my opinion, because Adam had that look he was going to do it. I believe the helpmate, abiding in her natural inherited survival skills, was being more cautious than Adam about the tree. The Adversary chose the one who paid attention.

I already mentioned that once Eve gave Adam the fruit, he did not speak or do anything but bit into it. He was battling, "obeying God to not eat of that tree," but clearly was failing. Must have been interesting from God's point of view, watching Adam becoming tempted by that tree until he just took the fruit and ate of it on his own merit and will.

I see this moment in time, not specifically going as the interpreters wanted. I believe there is a specific reason why the Adversary went to Eve. I believe she was 100% in her natural state of awareness and self, and those instincts were keeping her and Adam from that tree. Our Adversary, however ignorant his sin may have been that cost him everything, still is the wisest creature on earth. This is his kingdom for a very good reason. And going back to Eve, the Adversary always knew who to go to. He still does to this very day.


Twisting Gods' words to try and prove the feminist gospel of satan of attempting to blame woman's sins and all sin on men true, still? What goddess do you really serve Obediant?

My Jesus, says in His word: Eve was the one fooled, not Adam and became the first transgressor

Will you stop lying about my Jesus and His word before the Rapture? Might want to consider that, cause you will be left- false teachers don't get to come see Revelation chapter 2

13For Adam was first formed, then Eve.

14And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.

15Yet she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and love and holiness with propriety.
 

Dino246

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Wow, Jeauris, you really need help.

Who hurt you?
 
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7seasrekeyed

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I guess you should see how the Bible views cunning. Esau was said to be cunning, as he was really an excellent hunter. Men who worked with stones, wood, marble were classified as cunning. Someone who could build boats and other objects Women who worked with jewelry were called cunning. A machinist would be called cunning. Cunning is the skill or skills you were blessed with or a trade in today's lingo. And you are more cunning than a man!!
that is not the meaning of the word cunning and not how you used it on the first page

you are trying to be 'cunning' and failing miserably
 
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obedienttogod

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You can use dictionaries, thesauruses, encyclopedias whatever you need to define "cunning." I'll just use how God used to the word and apply it from that:


Genesis 25:27
And the boys grew: and Esau was a cunning hunter, a man of the field; and Jacob was a plain man, dwelling in tents.

Exodus 26:31
And thou shalt make a vail of blue, and purple, and scarlet, and fine twined linen of cunning work:

Exodus 28:6
And they shall make the ephod of gold, of blue, and of purple, of scarlet, and fine twined linen, with cunning work.

Exodus 35:35
Them hath he filled with wisdom of heart, to work all manner of work, of the engraver, and of the cunning workman...

1 Samuel 16:16
Let our lord now command thy servants, which are before thee, to seek out a man, who is a cunning player on an harp:

1 Chronicles 22:15
Moreover there are workmen with thee in abundance, hewers and workers of stone and timber, and all manner of cunning men for every manner of work.




Scripture clearly has a different definition: But in this particular matter, the "WORD" of God uses cunning like I have been using it all along. And this discussion is based off the WORD of God, not a dictionary
 

Dino246

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You can use dictionaries, thesauruses, encyclopedias whatever you need to define "cunning." I'll just use how God used to the word and apply it from that: ...

Scripture clearly has a different definition: But in this particular matter, the "WORD" of God uses cunning like I have been using it all along. And this discussion is based off the WORD of God, not a dictionary
400-year-old Scripture has a different definition; modern Scripture doesn't use "cunning" for these verses, because it's the wrong word. You can quote every single instance from the KJV, and the meaning still isn't current. Language changes over time, and has in this case. You can be stubborn, or you can accept reality. It's not a salvation issue; let it go.

As for "how God used (sic) to (sic) the word", you're suggesting that God chose the word "cunning". He didn't; the translators did. God didn't re-inspire the KJV in English. If you want to argue that, read the many long threads on the subject first.
 
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You can use dictionaries, thesauruses, encyclopedias whatever you need to define "cunning." I'll just use how God used to the word and apply it from that:


Genesis 25:27
And the boys grew: and Esau was a cunning hunter, a man of the field; and Jacob was a plain man, dwelling in tents.

Exodus 26:31
And thou shalt make a vail of blue, and purple, and scarlet, and fine twined linen of cunning work:

Exodus 28:6
And they shall make the ephod of gold, of blue, and of purple, of scarlet, and fine twined linen, with cunning work.

Exodus 35:35
Them hath he filled with wisdom of heart, to work all manner of work, of the engraver, and of the cunning workman...

1 Samuel 16:16
Let our lord now command thy servants, which are before thee, to seek out a man, who is a cunning player on an harp:

1 Chronicles 22:15
Moreover there are workmen with thee in abundance, hewers and workers of stone and timber, and all manner of cunning men for every manner of work.




Scripture clearly has a different definition: But in this particular matter, the "WORD" of God uses cunning like I have been using it all along. And this discussion is based off the WORD of God, not a dictionary
what is the biblical meaning of pompous know it all?

aha! found it

pride...arrogance will also pass and of course self-importance

what say this conversation stops and just let the hot air blow over?



there's really nothing to prove here. nothing biblical and nothing beneficial and nothing that in any way shape or form brings about any sort of understanding other than that most of us already know there are people in this world that try to use scripture to confirm their own biases and and quote verses like darts reminiscent of what, apparently, little demons do

this thread has been as heart-warming as the other one back in September.
 
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obedienttogod

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what is the biblical meaning of pompous know it all?

aha! found it

pride...arrogance will also pass and of course self-importance

what say this conversation stops and just let the hot air blow over?



there's really nothing to prove here. nothing biblical and nothing beneficial and nothing that in any way shape or form brings about any sort of understanding other than that most of us already know there are people in this world that try to use scripture to confirm their own biases and and quote verses like darts reminiscent of what, apparently, little demons do

this thread has been as heart-warming as the other one back in September.


That's a lot of hot air ^ you just generated...and all over my wondering why the Adversary chose Eve over Adam. If you actually pay attention, I ask questions from a viewpoint that was there during this/any event taking place, but what we are not reading about. The way Moses wrote Genesis was hitting high points and glossing right over them. Then you get to Exodus, and you are asking is this the same writer?

In scripture, we only read from the viewpoint of the writer. But in the Garden, by the Tree of Good and Knowledge, there were 3 points of views. There was Adam and what he witnessed from his personal viewpoint. There was the Adversary and what he witnessed from his personal viewpoint. And there was Eve, the one who was being deceived, the one who knows what was happening in her mind during this event and including her decision to eat the fruit.

I like to see all viewpoints. They were involved to create this story. So, what did they see from their personal viewpoint? It's a logical and well deserving question.
 

Hevosmies

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wondering why the Adversary chose Eve over Adam.
Here is my view on it:

I believe the devil went for Eve, because she was easier to deceive, why? Because Adam was there first, and Adam saw everything created, and got to name them. Eve didnt see all that, Eve came in later, so the devil could come to Eve and say "Yea, hath God said?
 
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obedienttogod

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Here is my view on it:

I believe the devil went for Eve, because she was easier to deceive, why? Because Adam was there first, and Adam saw everything created, and got to name them. Eve didnt see all that, Eve came in later, so the devil could come to Eve and say "Yea, hath God said?

Still, Eve was told by God about the Tree. She had knowledge of who God was, her Creator, she was on earth to help Adam (in this scenario). When it comes down to the Tree, Eve had the same knowledge as all 3 there did (God said, Do Not Eat!!) But all 3 saw it differently. One specifically represented it to Eve differently.
 
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obedienttogod

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Twisting Gods' words to try and prove the feminist gospel of satan of attempting to blame woman's sins and all sin on men true, still? What goddess do you really serve Obediant?

My Jesus, says in His word: Eve was the one fooled, not Adam and became the first transgressor

Will you stop lying about my Jesus and His word before the Rapture? Might want to consider that, cause you will be left- false teachers don't get to come see Revelation chapter 2

13For Adam was first formed, then Eve.

14And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.

15Yet she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and love and holiness with propriety.


They have meds for that psychological disorder you suffer from:

I am not twisting anything. You just aren't paying attention to notice, I am always on the side of God. But I do ask about the thoughts of those we read about who went through such events. You know the truth better when you can see it from everyone involved. Not better, but more detailed to give a more precise image.
 
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Locoponydirtman

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I wasn't in the garden so I don't know that God told Eve, himself or if he just told Adam. I do know this; if we Christians of the western culture had done as God told us concerning protecting women, and widows, and our daughters, rather than allow them to be abused and neglected we wouldn't be where we are with it today.
 
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obedienttogod

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Your insults only reflect on you.

Your quotations are from the KJV, which is based heavily on Tyndale's work from the 16th century. Many words, including "cunning" no longer have the meaning they did 400 years ago. Consult a modern dictionary.



Let's go with your viewpoint. That still has no bearing on what those scriptures mean. Whether it is actually cunning, skill, trade, union/non union, whatever...those scriptures still mean what skill level in whatever classification, due to definition, you use.

Esau being a skilled - crafty - cunning was a great hunter.

...bring all men of cunning workmanship = skilled labor like a trade in today's employment.

I am using the scripture in how it was written.
 
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obedienttogod

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I wasn't in the garden so I don't know that God told Eve, himself or if he just told Adam. I do know this; if we Christians of the western culture had done as God told us concerning protecting women, and widows, and our daughters, rather than allow them to be abused and neglected we wouldn't be where we are with it today.


And feminism played a role in this neglect you speak of?

I believe it has destroyed the family dependency that kept them together.
 
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Locoponydirtman

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And feminism played a role in this neglect you speak of?

I believe it has destroyed the family dependency that kept them together.
Poppycock!
First wave feminism started because women were abused and neglected. The homes of widows taken because women couldn't own land, rule of thumb allowed men to beat their wives, women were forced into the work force because a shortage of men because war, and then not paid fairly and churches and Christian men stood by and allowed it at best, but contributed to mostly. The push back got us where we are now. Just the same as with the Black community, abused and neglected all the while Christians looking the other way for nearly 100 years.
 

Dino246

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Let's go with your viewpoint. That still has no bearing on what those scriptures mean. Whether it is actually cunning, skill, trade, union/non union, whatever...those scriptures still mean what skill level in whatever classification, due to definition, you use.

Esau being a skilled - crafty - cunning was a great hunter.

...bring all men of cunning workmanship = skilled labor like a trade in today's employment.

I am using the scripture in how it was written.
You're still arguing your point, and ignoring 400 years of change in the language. You're welcome to your stubbornness, but I'm joining you in it.
 

Dino246

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You're still arguing your point, and ignoring 400 years of change in the language. You're welcome to your stubbornness, but I'm joining you in it.
Haha... I'm laughing at my own typo... that should be *not* joining....