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Haven't you been following the discussion in this thread? wansvic claims that one must be baptized "in the name of Jesus" repeatedly.
Yet, he refuses to address Matt 28:19, where Jesus doesn't mention His own name when He said "in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit.
Since he makes a point about the actual name "Jesus", what does he do with Matt 28:19? He ignores it, since there is no specific names for either the Father or Spirit.
Many pastors quote Matt 28:19 exactly when they baptize others.
So, what's "mean" or "arrogant" to call out a phony?
Yet, he refuses to address Matt 28:19, where Jesus doesn't mention His own name when He said "in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit.
Since he makes a point about the actual name "Jesus", what does he do with Matt 28:19? He ignores it, since there is no specific names for either the Father or Spirit.
Many pastors quote Matt 28:19 exactly when they baptize others.
So, what's "mean" or "arrogant" to call out a phony?
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I knew you would say that
are you also a 'Name only" adherent? also known as Oneness doctrine? you believe that Jesus is the name of God....well you must be oneness Pentecostal or similar if that is the case
so now you are saying even though we are baptized as per scripture, IT STILL AIN'T GOOD ENOUGH
ok....the name....oneness Pentecostal speak
for that matter, most referrals to baptism DO NOT MENTION ANYONE'S name. you must think we have all just crawled out from under a rock and do not know anything
JESUS said:
19 Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,
of course folks like you like to claim that was not in the original text
however:
Since something like the full text of Matthew 28:19 is found in the Didache (AD 50-70 at the earliest and generally early second century at the latest), is alluded to twice by Tertullian (d. 225) in On Baptism and Against Praxeas, and by several other church fathers before Nicea, Nicea (c. 325) couldn't have added it.
– Frank Luke
Jul 23 '14 at 18:34
so don't bother with your objections
are you also a 'Name only" adherent? also known as Oneness doctrine? you believe that Jesus is the name of God....well you must be oneness Pentecostal or similar if that is the case
so now you are saying even though we are baptized as per scripture, IT STILL AIN'T GOOD ENOUGH
ok....the name....oneness Pentecostal speak
for that matter, most referrals to baptism DO NOT MENTION ANYONE'S name. you must think we have all just crawled out from under a rock and do not know anything
JESUS said:
19 Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,
of course folks like you like to claim that was not in the original text
however:
Since something like the full text of Matthew 28:19 is found in the Didache (AD 50-70 at the earliest and generally early second century at the latest), is alluded to twice by Tertullian (d. 225) in On Baptism and Against Praxeas, and by several other church fathers before Nicea, Nicea (c. 325) couldn't have added it.
– Frank Luke
Jul 23 '14 at 18:34
so don't bother with your objections
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For the record I don't have that person on ignore. So your accusations about me are unfounded. I have no problem backing up what I share with the word.
Pointing people to what God's word says about water baptism is far more profitable than placing trust in information gathered from Internet sites. Sadly people are already following a man made tradition begun by the Catholic Church rather than obeying the God-given command. Anyone can have an opinion. But it's God's word that provides and confirms truth by 2-3 witnessing scriptures.
"All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works." 2 Tim 3:16-17
Pointing people to what God's word says about water baptism is far more profitable than placing trust in information gathered from Internet sites. Sadly people are already following a man made tradition begun by the Catholic Church rather than obeying the God-given command. Anyone can have an opinion. But it's God's word that provides and confirms truth by 2-3 witnessing scriptures.
"All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works." 2 Tim 3:16-17
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It would be wrong to not call out someone who acts mean and arrogant toward others who happen to have a different perspective than they.
And Matthew 28:19 is not anything more than an effort to reiterate a teaching that was entered, post Christ, into the scriptures. Jesus did not teach a Trinity.
We know this because for Trinity believers in three separate and distinct person's, they are refuted by Jesus himself. When he stated he and the father are one.
Which is why Jesus would also say, when you have seen me you have seen the father.
All that Jesus was in human form was of and from God. The Word made flesh todwell among us.
True Baptism, as Jesus and his disciples practiced, was performed in the name of Jesus. Who was the holy spirit made flesh, aka God. One. Not three separate and distinct.
Luke 24:47 and repentance for the forgiveness of sins would be proclaimed in his name to all nations, beginning from Jerusalem.
In other threads the origin of tritheism, trinity doctrine, history being added to scripture has been proved.
Acts 2:38 proves no one in scripture was baptized in the name of three separate and distinct persons.
And Matthew 28:19 is not anything more than an effort to reiterate a teaching that was entered, post Christ, into the scriptures. Jesus did not teach a Trinity.
We know this because for Trinity believers in three separate and distinct person's, they are refuted by Jesus himself. When he stated he and the father are one.
Which is why Jesus would also say, when you have seen me you have seen the father.
All that Jesus was in human form was of and from God. The Word made flesh todwell among us.
True Baptism, as Jesus and his disciples practiced, was performed in the name of Jesus. Who was the holy spirit made flesh, aka God. One. Not three separate and distinct.
Luke 24:47 and repentance for the forgiveness of sins would be proclaimed in his name to all nations, beginning from Jerusalem.
In other threads the origin of tritheism, trinity doctrine, history being added to scripture has been proved.
Acts 2:38 proves no one in scripture was baptized in the name of three separate and distinct persons.
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