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That does not answer my question does it?
I am aware of the Acts verses you mention.
I will ask again.
“So a person is not saved by being baptised?
So expand a little bit more or maybe rephrase.
Is a person saved by being baptised in the name of Jesus only?
Or are they saved according to the following?
Romans 10:9-13
9 that if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved. 10 For with the heart one believes unto righteousness, and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. 11 For the Scripture says, “Whoever believes on Him will not be put to shame.” 12 For there is no distinction between Jew and Greek, for the same Lord over all is rich to all who call upon Him. 13 For “whoever calls on the name of the Lord shall be saved.”
I was baptised
Matthew 28:19
19 Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,
Am I saved?
I am aware of the Acts verses you mention.
I will ask again.
“So a person is not saved by being baptised?
So expand a little bit more or maybe rephrase.
Is a person saved by being baptised in the name of Jesus only?
Or are they saved according to the following?
Romans 10:9-13
9 that if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved. 10 For with the heart one believes unto righteousness, and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. 11 For the Scripture says, “Whoever believes on Him will not be put to shame.” 12 For there is no distinction between Jew and Greek, for the same Lord over all is rich to all who call upon Him. 13 For “whoever calls on the name of the Lord shall be saved.”
I was baptised
Matthew 28:19
19 Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,
Am I saved?
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That is what I said your argument was; but then you said that I did not know your argument.
Now you are saying that it is your argument?
I do believe that God is Omnipotent and sovereign;
And that therefore He is able to preserve His unadulterated message for the common people in their own languages.
I believe that God is loving;
And that therefore He was motivated to do so.
Especially since the "educated" scribes and Pharisees rejected Jesus; but the common people received Him gladly.
For this reason, I do not believe that God limits His unadulterated message to the "educated" Greek and Hebrew scholar (who might be inclined to reject the Lord); but that He has given His unadulterated message in our common English (in the kjv) to the common people.
Also, you have not shown how the original Greek and Hebrew bears out that there is condemnation for those who will be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth for the remission of sins.
How then am I going to hell if I do not understand the verses on the subject in light of the original Greek and Hebrew?
Now you are saying that it is your argument?
I do believe that God is Omnipotent and sovereign;
And that therefore He is able to preserve His unadulterated message for the common people in their own languages.
I believe that God is loving;
And that therefore He was motivated to do so.
Especially since the "educated" scribes and Pharisees rejected Jesus; but the common people received Him gladly.
For this reason, I do not believe that God limits His unadulterated message to the "educated" Greek and Hebrew scholar (who might be inclined to reject the Lord); but that He has given His unadulterated message in our common English (in the kjv) to the common people.
Also, you have not shown how the original Greek and Hebrew bears out that there is condemnation for those who will be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth for the remission of sins.
How then am I going to hell if I do not understand the verses on the subject in light of the original Greek and Hebrew?
No just answer my questions please.
Does baptism save in the name of Jesus only?
Am I saved when I was baptised in the name of Father, Son and Holy Spirit.
Romans 8:9
9 But you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God dwells in you. Now if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he is not His.
You said the above.
Relevance to baptism?
Does baptism save in the name of Jesus only?
Am I saved when I was baptised in the name of Father, Son and Holy Spirit.
Romans 8:9
9 But you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God dwells in you. Now if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he is not His.
You said the above.
Relevance to baptism?
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The Holy Ghost is absolutely promised to those who are baptized in the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth for the remission of sins (Acts 2:38-39).
Since having the Holy Ghost means salvation (Romans 8:9), I conclude that in receiving the Holy Ghost (through fulfilling the condition of the promise), that there is a certain salvation that I received when I received the promise (of the Holy Ghost) through fulfilling its condition.
Since having the Holy Ghost means salvation (Romans 8:9), I conclude that in receiving the Holy Ghost (through fulfilling the condition of the promise), that there is a certain salvation that I received when I received the promise (of the Holy Ghost) through fulfilling its condition.
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I misread what you said. Sorry. I read it as you saying baptism was not for them (people) not sins.
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I do believe that God is Omnipotent and sovereign;
And that therefore He is able to preserve His unadulterated message for the common people in their own languages.
I believe that God is loving;
And that therefore He was motivated to do so.
Especially since the "educated" scribes and Pharisees rejected Jesus; but the common people received Him gladly.
For this reason, I do not believe that God limits His unadulterated message to the "educated" Greek and Hebrew scholar (who might be inclined to reject the Lord); but that He has given His unadulterated message in our common English (in the kjv) to the common people.
Also, you have not shown how the original Greek and Hebrew bears out that there is condemnation for those who will be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth for the remission of sins.
How then am I going to hell if I do not understand the verses on the subject in light of the original Greek and Hebrew?[/QUOTE]
Again cult mentality
If the english says one thing but the greek actually says something else. And you trust the english over the greek. And it is a salvation issue. You will miss out on heaven because you believed in the interpreter not the author.
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I do believe that God is Omnipotent and sovereign;
And that therefore He is able to preserve His unadulterated message for the common people in their own languages.
I believe that God is loving;
And that therefore He was motivated to do so.
Especially since the "educated" scribes and Pharisees rejected Jesus; but the common people received Him gladly.
For this reason, I do not believe that God limits His unadulterated message to the "educated" Greek and Hebrew scholar (who might be inclined to reject the Lord); but that He has given His unadulterated message in our common English (in the kjv) to the common people.
Also, you have not shown how the original Greek and Hebrew bears out that there is condemnation for those who will be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth for the remission of sins.
How then am I going to hell if I do not understand the verses on the subject in light of the original Greek and Hebrew?[/QUOTE]
Again cult mentality
If the english says one thing but the greek actually says something else. And you trust the english over the greek. And it is a salvation issue. You will miss out on heaven because you believed in the interpreter not the author.
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Because your replacing the baptism of the Holy Spirit with the baptism of men
No different than the jews replacing the circumcision by the hand of God. With the one done by the hand of man.
Salvation is by grace through faith
Not works..
No one who tries to work to earn or maintain salvation will be saved. Because their faith was in self. Not God
No different than the jews replacing the circumcision by the hand of God. With the one done by the hand of man.
Salvation is by grace through faith
Not works..
No one who tries to work to earn or maintain salvation will be saved. Because their faith was in self. Not God
I didn't and did not need to take a chance.
I was saved
Romans 10:9-11
9 that if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved. 10 For with the heart one believes unto righteousness, and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. 11 For the Scripture says, “Whoever believes on Him will not be put to shame.”
Then I was baptised in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit commanded by Jesus.
If you felt you could not take a chance so per Acts you were baptised then I would have to say that you reject what Jesus said concerning the great commission and what Paul said above.
Are you saved?
Yes of course you are.
Am I saved?
Yes of course I am.
I was saved
Romans 10:9-11
9 that if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved. 10 For with the heart one believes unto righteousness, and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. 11 For the Scripture says, “Whoever believes on Him will not be put to shame.”
Then I was baptised in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit commanded by Jesus.
If you felt you could not take a chance so per Acts you were baptised then I would have to say that you reject what Jesus said concerning the great commission and what Paul said above.
Are you saved?
Yes of course you are.
Am I saved?
Yes of course I am.