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London2015

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am seeking advice about my almost 1 year relationship, with my 23 year old boyfriend. We have a great relationship, and have known each other as best friends for 4 years. We are both Christians and have church pastors which keep us accountable, and are very active in serving the church. I have always known that he has been attracted to men, which I had been finding increasingly difficult- worrying about his godliness and any problems that we might come across in our marriage because of this.
However, I know that all sins are equal in the eyes of God, and that Jesus has already paid the price of our Sin. Therefore, who am I to judge and say that his Sin is any less than mine? He has recently admitted to me (and i am the first person he has told) that he is also attracted to young boys of ages 7-11. Although he has never watch porn or acted up on these feelings, he still struggles.
I am deeply upset by this, as I have experienced sexual abuse when I was 7. I cannot bare the thought of him ever hurting our children, if we have any one day. Several things complicate this though. He is EXCELLENT with children, and has a true gift for teaching them. He is thinking about going into teaching primary school full time, however since this has come to light, i wonder wether this is a good idea, and if it might just be asking for trouble?
He is also somewhat immature. Coming from a home schooled family, one of 4 siblings. He doesn't want to grow up properly, and has a child like view of the world. Although I do like this aspect of his personality, I feel like I have to take care of thigns and cant fully trust him because he is so oblivious as to how the world works sometimes. I love him very much, and this is his first relationship. I want to help him grow more like Jesus, and I know that we both encourage each other in our faith everyday.
I feel like if we get married, I will have to help him grow up to be mature, as well as constantly fearing for our children. Wanting to protect them and feeling like I can't trust him with anything. In so many ways our relationship works very well. We have the same hobbies, chemistry, both want children etc. But I'm not sure that if we get married and become "one", that i will not be able to give him the support he needs in this area.
I have been told that all sin is the same. I know that logically. But been attracted to children involves a innocent, helpless child. Being jealous, or have homosexual feelings or sinning with someone of the same sex, if sin against god and the other person. I feel how ever that this sin is somehow worse, because the child in question would have no say in what is being done to them.
My question is, do you think that how I feel about this will get better with time? Do you think that our marriage would be unstable? How can I support him? Or perhaps our marriage isn't a good idea at all.
 

LOLOKGal

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Oh dear! This is something that you'll want to be very careful with. When he has talked about his attractiveness to men and young boys, has he always seem sorry about it? Does he want to turn away from those desires? Does he not want to be attracted to them? These things would be very important. Is he, on a daily bases, trying to put these things behind him? (Get thee behind me satan)! You know what I"m saying? Anytime these desires comes up, does he rebuke it? If he doesn't do any of these, then yes, leave now! If he does do these things, then give it some time through good Godly counselling, before deciding and entering into marriage.
 
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London2015

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Thanks for the advice, Lolo. Yes he is sorry and does ask god for forgivness/ tries to understand why he is like this. I feel bad becuase im finding it so difficult to live with this, even though im not the one whos struggling with this...! I like to see he is trying to help himself with concelling from pastor. But i still feel hostile towards him.. :(
 
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He needs to seek a psychiatrist for his pedophilia. Its a stigma, I agree. But best he face it now, before it conquer him later.
 
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Is all sin truly the same?
If today I stole some candy from the shop would God view that the same as if I killed someone tomorrow?

Did God put the same punishment in place in the OT for all the law if it was broken, or were there different punishments depending on which law was broken?

The reprocussions of certain sins are far worse than others

That aside, you need to think real hard about your situation. It is not easy to finish a relationship you have been in a long time. But these are issues that if they came to fruition in marriage could devastate your life for many years to come. You would be taking a huge risk in my opinion. Only you can decide if you are prepared to take it
God bless
 
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crossnote

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All sin is equal?

1 Corinthians 6:18 KJVS
[18] Flee fornication. Every sin that a man doeth is without the body; but he that committeth fornication sinneth against his own body.
 
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VioletReigns

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You write that you have always known that he has been attracted to men. Why did you begin a relationship with him if you already knew he was struggling with it? And for him to confess he is attracted to children is not only disturbing, it is a serious red flag. He needs to seek help immediately before a child is harmed. There is no way I would advise you to continue a relationship with him other than friends. That young man needs to seek professional help ASAP, especially if he is already in a position of teaching children. He has no business being around children.
 
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Siela01

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But now it was occur in ur life..forget the past and forgive all.now make it changes in ur future.. promise not do it again and always believe in God.. prayer ur's husband... that's really help...
 
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Tintin

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am seeking advice about my almost 1 year relationship, with my 23 year old boyfriend. We have a great relationship, and have known each other as best friends for 4 years. We are both Christians and have church pastors which keep us accountable, and are very active in serving the church. I have always known that he has been attracted to men, which I had been finding increasingly difficult- worrying about his godliness and any problems that we might come across in our marriage because of this.
However, I know that all sins are equal in the eyes of God, and that Jesus has already paid the price of our Sin. Therefore, who am I to judge and say that his Sin is any less than mine? He has recently admitted to me (and i am the first person he has told) that he is also attracted to young boys of ages 7-11. Although he has never watch porn or acted up on these feelings, he still struggles.
I am deeply upset by this, as I have experienced sexual abuse when I was 7. I cannot bare the thought of him ever hurting our children, if we have any one day. Several things complicate this though. He is EXCELLENT with children, and has a true gift for teaching them. He is thinking about going into teaching primary school full time, however since this has come to light, i wonder wether this is a good idea, and if it might just be asking for trouble?
He is also somewhat immature. Coming from a home schooled family, one of 4 siblings. He doesn't want to grow up properly, and has a child like view of the world. Although I do like this aspect of his personality, I feel like I have to take care of thigns and cant fully trust him because he is so oblivious as to how the world works sometimes. I love him very much, and this is his first relationship. I want to help him grow more like Jesus, and I know that we both encourage each other in our faith everyday.
I feel like if we get married, I will have to help him grow up to be mature, as well as constantly fearing for our children. Wanting to protect them and feeling like I can't trust him with anything. In so many ways our relationship works very well. We have the same hobbies, chemistry, both want children etc. But I'm not sure that if we get married and become "one", that i will not be able to give him the support he needs in this area.
I have been told that all sin is the same. I know that logically. But been attracted to children involves a innocent, helpless child. Being jealous, or have homosexual feelings or sinning with someone of the same sex, if sin against god and the other person. I feel how ever that this sin is somehow worse, because the child in question would have no say in what is being done to them.
My question is, do you think that how I feel about this will get better with time? Do you think that our marriage would be unstable? How can I support him? Or perhaps our marriage isn't a good idea at all.
As a qualified primary school teacher, I believe this is a terrible idea. I'm too have a great rapport with children, but I'm having a difficult enough time trying to find teaching work and I've only ever been attracted to women. He needs to stay away from children, for their good and his own. But this is a very difficult situation you have here.
 
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Tintin

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As a qualified primary school teacher, I believe this is a terrible idea. I'm too have a great rapport with children, but I'm having a difficult enough time trying to find teaching work and I've only ever been attracted to women. He needs to stay away from children, for their good and his own. But this is a very difficult situation you have here.
*I too have a great rapport with children...

Oops. 5 mins really isn't an ideal editing time.
 
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:smoke: hope somebody will tell him to be honest to himself

:rofl: or perhaps we should exorcise him for acting on a such manner
that unexcusable to god
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Luke: 18. 15. And they brought unto him also infants, that he would touch them: but when his disciples saw it, they rebuked them.
16. But Jesus called them unto him, and said, Suffer little children to come unto me, and forbid them not: for of such is the kingdom of God.
17. Verily I say unto you, Whosoever shall not receive the kingdom of God as a little child shall in no wise enter therein.

God bless us all always


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Miri

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If he is attracted to children then the worse thing possible would be for him to
get involved in any kind of children's work. It would be too much of a temptation
for him.

It would be like asking an ex alcoholic to work in a pub for example.
Even if he has not done anything wrong, he should still remove himself from
such temptation.

Is he involved in children's work in the church, if so he should remove himself
from this. I know it's not a nice thought, but what if something happened to a
child at some point. How would you feel? I bet you would feel so guility
that you never said anything.

Yes all sin is equal in the eyes of God and can be forgiven. But this does
not mean it's right and it does not mean it doesn't have consequences.
Sin has consequences, in this case his sexual preferences has the potential
to cause massive harm.

He seriously needs to seek counselling for the issues he has. Unless he
can overcome this I would put any thoughts of a relationship on hold.
Even if you got married but didn't have any children of your own to worry
about, what about the neighbours children of any other children in your
family.

Also if he has feelings towards men, how do you know that won't
affect your relationship at some point.

Something must have triggered all of this within in him during his life.
He needs to work out what and why via counselling and deal with this
before entering any relationship. AND DEFINATLEY NOT BE WORKING
WITH ANY CHILDREN

The fact is that most pedophiles do have great relationships with children,
thats how they gain their trust and abuse them. So to say he is good with
children, is not really anything to be proud of when someone had such
feelings. It is a massive RED FLAG.

Sorry to be so blunt, but you really need to give this careful consideration.

Personally if it was me I would speak to the church pastor and make sure they
know not to entrust any children's work to him or put him in a position
where he might act on that temptation.
 
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Miri

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But now it was occur in ur life..forget the past and forgive all.now make it changes in ur future.. promise not do it again and always believe in God.. prayer ur's husband... that's really help...

This is is such poor advice, how can he promise to get over his sexual preference for men and
children overnight. It's not like a one off sin like speeding and saying I won't do it again.

It is a mind set which needs to be broken.
 
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Tintin

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But now it was occur in ur life..forget the past and forgive all.now make it changes in ur future.. promise not do it again and always believe in God.. prayer ur's husband... that's really help...
No! God, no! No! No! No!
 

valiant

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But now it was occur in ur life..forget the past and forgive all.now make it changes in ur future.. promise not do it again and always believe in God.. prayer ur's husband... that's really help...
The advice of a 15 year old who sees life through rose tinted spectacles.

My advice is that you are storing up trouble for yourself. You would be marrying someone who is sexually immature and untrustworthy, is unlikely to change, and is a time bomb for the future. It is unlikely that at some stage he would not give way. And any children he had would be at constant risk. And you would bear equal responsibility.

And you would be a party with him in all that happen outside the home if you did not openly make clear his propensities in all fields of youth activity. Thus you would constantly face a charge either of disloyalty or of being a traitor..
 

Agricola

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Are you just simply the cover he can hide his homosexuality behind? "oh he has a girlfriend he can not be gay". As for porn, how do you know he does not look at porn, because he told you?
 
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pottersclay

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Marriage should be definitely off the table. It will not fix the problem.you will always have these thoughts in the back of your mind.
I am so sorry for being so blunt but these thoughts that he has are very serious. Imo he should step down from his teaching position and seek the Lord along with a good counsel. His sexual feelings will and does cloud his intent which could be a recipe for disaster.
If I were you I would seek the Lord and ask him for the wisdom and strength to do what is right.
You must ask yourself why would you be willing to over look these issues and make a lifetime bond to this person knowing that the problems he has is very serious and will effect the marriage as it has already effected your relationship. I will keep this in prayer and may the Lord give you the direction in which you should go.
 
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Sirk

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I would run. You don't need this in your life and it's not your burden to bear. If you were to marry this guy and you had kids would you ever be able to really trust him? I know that if I were you... I would never be able to to turn my back on him with children.....
 

blue_ladybug

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This guy is a pedophile waiting to happen. For God's sake, do not marry him. And dissuade him from being around kids. Get him some professional help before he turns into a homosexual child-raper.
 
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This guy is a pedophile waiting to happen. For God's sake, do not marry him. And dissuade him from being around kids. Get him some professional help before he turns into a homosexual child-raper.
Firstly, he already is a pedophile. Its the desire, not the action that makes him one. Secondly, "homosexual child-raper" is a fairly unnecessary term, since we already have a term for these people, "child molester" and "child rapist." However, at this time, our goal should be to advise she tell her boyfriend to seek medical and psychological help.

As for marriage to this man, I would suggest against it. More because of the potential harm that both of you would bring to the other, and should children come into the picture, you would never trust your husband.