Self Defense - Is it wrong?

[AgeofKnowledge]

Blah blah blah. A fine no nothing speech. You'll make a great politician if you decide to go into politics.

Myself, I'm much more pragmatic. I just want to know if you'll fight or if you'll take flight when it gets crackin.

Lolol.

I'd like to answer your questions, but they aren't really questions, so I can't answer them. But I can point you to where you can find answers: the Bible. There's so much that God wants to reveal to people, but when we pretend to already know everything, He can't tell us much. The evidence that we think we know is that we don't know (a riddle but not meant to be); when we acknowledge that we don't know, which we rarely do in this 'age of knowledge' where we think we know but don't know, then God will reveal when we ask which will make us eerily smarter than everyone else who doesn't know but pretends to know. The evidence will be that we don't have to try in order to know and that knowing won't be anything special to us. But those who think they know don't get it, because knowing is very important to them. Those who do know know because their focus is on more important things (e.g. wisdom).

All that makes sense except to those to whom knowing is everything. If you truly want to know the truth for the right reason and not to add more knowledge/information to your learning, you will ask God the questions you're asking me, and He will tell you. I've met many Christians who ask questions on questions and still don't know; but I'm a Christian like them and have received many of the answers they haven't. When I asked God about this, He explained why some ask and don't receive, seek and don't find, knock and have no doors open to them. If there's anything that God always gives, anything you always get in answer to prayer when you ask, it is wisdom: "If ANY man lacks wisdom, let him ask of God who gives liberally to all without finding fault, and it will be given to him" (Jas. 1:5). I get it when I ask; but you have to get it for yourself or it won't make sense to you when you get it from someone else... because wisdom is not knowledge; knowledge can come from anywhere, but wisdom comes only from God.

 

[Sirk]

There are many kinds of self defense. The most basic premise is to protect your life or someone else's life. The answer to whether it is wrong or right is with the individuals heart. If a person wants to learn self defense to be the tough guy, then it is wrong. If a person wants to learn self defense to learn how to survive and to help others survive in a life or death scenario, then it is right. It's all about the motivation for learning it. Point being, if you pull a gun on someone, you better have a good reason and you better be prepared to pull the trigger. IMHO.

 

[DavidLOVESsnow]

Sorry I just saw some people going back and forth.

Last thing I want to be responsible for is another arguing thread :/

 

[Deadtosin]

it's a very good thread.

 

[DavidLOVESsnow]

it's a very good thread.

Thank you

 

[Sirk]

Scenario for you: you are awakened in the night to an intruder in your house. You have a handgun in your night stand for home protection. What should you do? And more importantly, what shouldn't you do?

 

[Deadtosin]

Scenario for you: you are awakened in the night to an intruder in your house. You have a handgun in your night stand for home protection. What should you do? And more importantly, what shouldn't you do?

Ohhh I love these. Question, how do I know it's an intruder?

 

[4enlightment]

Scenario for you: you are awakened in the night to an intruder in your house. You have a handgun in your night stand for home protection. What should you do?

Start making a lot of noise by shooting out all the windows in the house that will put some fear in the Intruder causing the Intruder to become disorientated and probably cause the Intruder to forget what he is there for and leave.

 

[Deadtosin]

Start making a lot of noise by shooting out all the windows in the house that will put some fear in the Intruder causing the Intruder to become disorientated and probably cause the Intruder to forget what he is there for and leave.

lol yikes. I'd hate to be your neighbor! lol

 

[Sirk]

Ohhh I love these. Question, how do I know it's an intruder?

The answer is that you should never directly confront someone in your house. You should take up a defense able position in your room and state your intention to shoot them til dead if they approach you. This allows them the opportunity to state if they are a friend and it is less likely you will be killed by your own weapon. If it is a burglar it is always best to let them leave with your tv.

 

[Deadtosin]

The answer is that you should never directly confront someone in your house. You should take up a defense able position in your room and state your intention to shoot them til dead if they approach you. This allows them the opportunity to state if they are a friend and it is less likely you will be killed by your own weapon. If it is a burglar it is always best to let them leave with your tv.

I agree with you. There are two scenarios though. One, my children's bedroom is in my hallway. At which point I could lay on the ground with my door cracked open, pointing downrange and yelling boldly "WHO IS IN MY HOUSE!?!" However if my kids are on the other side of the house daddy is becoming a ninja with a side arm.

 

[Sirk]

I agree with you. There are two scenarios though. One, my children's bedroom is in my hallway. At which point I could lay on the ground with my door cracked open, pointing downrange and yelling boldly "WHO IS IN MY HOUSE!?!" However if my kids are on the other side of the house daddy is becoming a ninja with a side arm.

Yup! And if one is going to keep a firearm for this purpose you should practice proper firearm handling techniques so as not to have it taken away from you. ... Like not walking down the hall with arms extended but close to chest in the ready to fire position. Ever bodies house is different so it's wise to practice for your circumstance.

 

[peacemakerz22]

I was a martial artist for many years and still a pacifist, surprised? Before our combat lessons our instructor would ask us if we killed any bugs or life that week. If we answered yes, we had to do push ups. Have integrity, self control, patience, decision making, and indomitable spirit. Read about martial arts and the law. There are certain scrutinies and rules to follow regarding the ATA/ law.

 

[Sirk]

Probably the most important thing if at all possible would be to dial 911 as quickly as possible.

 

[Deadtosin]

Yup! And if one is going to keep a firearm for this purpose you should practice proper firearm handling techniques so as not to have it taken away from you. ... Like not walking down the hall with arms extended but close to chest in the ready to fire position. Ever bodies house is different so it's wise to practice for your circumstance.

as for me and my training it was with a different focus, I don't want them to detect me. I want to know the situation before I have to do anything. For that purpose my gun is not my most important tool. Stealth is.

To move silently throughout my home undetected I have to become part of the natural shadows of my environment. The gun is simply another tool that happens to be in my hand against my silhouette.

If the lines of my home are vertical. Corners, walls, furniture etc. Then a vertical silhouette as camouflage only makes sense. Ergo my gun remains at my side.

 

[Sirk]

as for me and my training it was with a different focus, I don't want them to detect me. I want to know the situation before I have to do anything. For that purpose my gun is not my most important tool. Stealth is.

To move silently throughout my home undetected I have to become part of the natural shadows of my environment. The gun is simply another tool that happens to be in my hand against my silhouette.

If the lines of my home are vertical. Corners, walls, furniture etc. Then a vertical silhouette as camouflage only makes sense. Ergo my gun remains at my side.

The only potential problem with this is shooting someone you don't want too.

 

[faroukfarouk]

The only potential problem with this is shooting someone you don't want too.

I think there also might be a geographical perspective to this.

Someone in Texas or Arizona might think a little differently from someone in Massachusetts or Prince Edward Island.

 

[Allin]

I really enjoyed your whole post but I failed to relate it to Ageofknowledge's statements.

It relates but not on the level he was asking, therefore, I started the post by saying, "I'd like to answer your questions, but they aren't really questions, so I can't answer them."

 

[Deadtosin]

The only potential problem with this is shooting someone you don't want too.

another great reason to have my gun against my side pointed at the ground

 

[Allin]

Blah blah blah. A fine no nothing speech. You'll make a great politician if you decide to go into politics.

Myself, I'm much more pragmatic. I just want to know if you'll fight or if you'll take flight when it gets crackin.

Lolol.

Every single time I've read Ps. 3:2, I have not been able to stop myself from chuckling even if I wasn't in the mood to laugh. The verse says, "Many are they that say of my soul, 'There is no help for him in God.'" It makes me chuckle because it's true but false. Same here. As for fighting, I prefer to get someone else to do it for me. If I have to do it myself, then I get pretty upset.