Sermon on the mount - life or legalistic junk
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By GRACE (God acting in unmerited love) you have been saved, through faith, and that not of yourselves. It is the gift of God and not of works, lest any man should boast (Eph 2.8-9). Seems like saving grace to me.
Who has saved us and called us with a holy calling, not according to our doings, but according to His purpose and grace -- (2 Tim 1.9) -- saved by His grace.
All is of grace.
Man was given saving faith by the grace of God.
Who has saved us and called us with a holy calling, not according to our doings, but according to His purpose and grace -- (2 Tim 1.9) -- saved by His grace.
All is of grace.
Man was given saving faith by the grace of God.
I do not disagree with this at all.
Grace is the method, truth is the convincing change agent, faith is the action and Lord/savior over all is the intended result.
When we state we are saved by grace, we need to be very careful. Righteousness is not given to us do to grace, it is credited to us through our faith in what Jesus did on the cross.
Abraham was not credited with Righteousness by the grace of God, he was made rightoeus by his faith.
We are saved by grace "through faith"....Grace is the method that brings salvation to all men, but it never saved anyone. Faith in the work of the cross does.
Grace is the method, truth is the convincing change agent, faith is the action and Lord/savior over all is the intended result.
When we state we are saved by grace, we need to be very careful. Righteousness is not given to us do to grace, it is credited to us through our faith in what Jesus did on the cross.
Abraham was not credited with Righteousness by the grace of God, he was made rightoeus by his faith.
We are saved by grace "through faith"....Grace is the method that brings salvation to all men, but it never saved anyone. Faith in the work of the cross does.
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Seems like a strange discussion to me. All the actions that are involved in us being saved are the result of the gracious acts of God...all of it. So we are most definitely saved by grace, the gracious acts of God toward mankind. It is the gracious act of God that gives us the sacrifice of Christ, the gracious act of God that gives us conviction of sin and the faith to believe in Christ. There is not anything that we have from God that did not come from God being gracious toward us...grace.
The problem is emphasis. I can graciously give you a car, me reason for giving it can be
because of grace, the way I give it is graceful, but the car is still a car and functions like
a car. So Christ gave His life for us, suffered and died at the hands of sinners so that
we might overcome sin and death through Him. That is what was done but it was all done
through grace.
Once you replace the facts with the word grace, and then transpose this on to the world,
the world is saved. But this is just mucking about with language not the meaning, and taking
things too far which is done miles too much.
because of grace, the way I give it is graceful, but the car is still a car and functions like
a car. So Christ gave His life for us, suffered and died at the hands of sinners so that
we might overcome sin and death through Him. That is what was done but it was all done
through grace.
Once you replace the facts with the word grace, and then transpose this on to the world,
the world is saved. But this is just mucking about with language not the meaning, and taking
things too far which is done miles too much.
In Matthew 5, the Kingdom of Heaven is spoken about and it says that if one sinned against God that he would go to hell. While Paul taught that the Kingdom of God is where the Christian lived(Romans 14:17). If the two are same then there is a contradiction that the Christian's salvation includes works.
Matthew 25:14-30 talks about the Kingdom of Heaven where an unfaithful servant goes to hell. Luke 19:12-27 talks about the Kingdom of God where the unfaithful servant loses his rewards and this matches up with the Christian at the Judgment Seat of Christ(2 Cor. 5:10). There is obviously a difference between the two kingdoms.
The Kingdom of Heaven is a physical kingdom that will take place on earth and consists of violence. Remember that the earth is in the heaven(Genesis 1:14-16).
Matthew 11:12 "And from the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of heaven suffereth violence, and the violent take it by force."
The first place where the Kingdom of Heaven is mentioned is where John the Baptist was preaching about the the fulfillment of Isaiah 40. John was preaching about the Kingdom of Jesus Christ on this earth. Other Old Testament prophecies also reveal that the Kingdom of Heaven was physical. Read Genesis 49:10; Isaiah 2:1-5, 49:5-13; Psalms 2; Jeremiah 23:5 and Luke 1:30-33.
Matthew 3:2 "And saying, Repent ye: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand. 3 For this is he that was spoken of by the prophet Esaias, saying, The voice of one crying in the wilderness, Prepare ye the way of the Lord, make his paths straight."
Jesus tells the Jews that the Kingdom of Heaven is at hand in Matthew 4:17. This proves that it is physical because it shows a kingdom coming on earth and is not referring to someone dying. The book of Matthew mentions the Kingdom of Heaven several times speaking of an earthly rule of Israel that is talked about in Old Testament prophecies(Matthew 5:1-6, 13, Matthew 19:10-30).
Matthew 4:17 "From that time Jesus began to preach, and to say, Repent: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand."
The gospel that Jesus Christ preached for Israel to the Jews was the Kingdom of Heaven(Matthew 4:23, 5:4, 8:11-12, 19:28, 20:16, 25:31-34). The Jews knew that this gospel that Jesus was preaching was the physical reign on earth(John 1:41,45,49, 6:14-15, 12:13). The disciples of Jesus Christ knew that the Kingdom of Heaven was on earth like King David and Solomon's kingdom. Notice in the below verse, Jesus does not rebuke them and this proves that it is physical.
Acts 1:6 "When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel? 7 And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power."
Matthew 25:14-30 talks about the Kingdom of Heaven where an unfaithful servant goes to hell. Luke 19:12-27 talks about the Kingdom of God where the unfaithful servant loses his rewards and this matches up with the Christian at the Judgment Seat of Christ(2 Cor. 5:10). There is obviously a difference between the two kingdoms.
The Kingdom of Heaven is a physical kingdom that will take place on earth and consists of violence. Remember that the earth is in the heaven(Genesis 1:14-16).
Matthew 11:12 "And from the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of heaven suffereth violence, and the violent take it by force."
The first place where the Kingdom of Heaven is mentioned is where John the Baptist was preaching about the the fulfillment of Isaiah 40. John was preaching about the Kingdom of Jesus Christ on this earth. Other Old Testament prophecies also reveal that the Kingdom of Heaven was physical. Read Genesis 49:10; Isaiah 2:1-5, 49:5-13; Psalms 2; Jeremiah 23:5 and Luke 1:30-33.
Matthew 3:2 "And saying, Repent ye: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand. 3 For this is he that was spoken of by the prophet Esaias, saying, The voice of one crying in the wilderness, Prepare ye the way of the Lord, make his paths straight."
Jesus tells the Jews that the Kingdom of Heaven is at hand in Matthew 4:17. This proves that it is physical because it shows a kingdom coming on earth and is not referring to someone dying. The book of Matthew mentions the Kingdom of Heaven several times speaking of an earthly rule of Israel that is talked about in Old Testament prophecies(Matthew 5:1-6, 13, Matthew 19:10-30).
Matthew 4:17 "From that time Jesus began to preach, and to say, Repent: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand."
The gospel that Jesus Christ preached for Israel to the Jews was the Kingdom of Heaven(Matthew 4:23, 5:4, 8:11-12, 19:28, 20:16, 25:31-34). The Jews knew that this gospel that Jesus was preaching was the physical reign on earth(John 1:41,45,49, 6:14-15, 12:13). The disciples of Jesus Christ knew that the Kingdom of Heaven was on earth like King David and Solomon's kingdom. Notice in the below verse, Jesus does not rebuke them and this proves that it is physical.
Acts 1:6 "When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel? 7 And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power."
Isaiah 42:21 [FONT="]The [/FONT][FONT="]Lord[/FONT][FONT="] is well pleased for his righteousness' sake; he will magnify the law, and make it honourable.
That was a prophecy in Isaiah.
The sermon on the mount is the fulfillment of that prophecy.
Everyone who told the Lord Jesus that they obeyed all the commandments He told them, always, there was one more thing they lacked.
Why? Why did He never tell anyone "Good job you good and faithful servant" after they told Him they obeyed the commandments?
Because they didn't understand the depth of the law. But the sermon on the mount explains the depth of the law. To everyone, for all time.
Be Perfect like your Father in Heaven is Perfect. People claim to obey the commandments. But not many claim to be perfect like God is Perfect.
Because it is something that is not attainable from inside their own self, by their own strength and power. They have to look outside of themselves to receive power from God, to be Perfect like God is Perfect. They have to look to Christ to receive this power.
Galatians 3:24-26
[/FONT][FONT="]24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.[/FONT]
[FONT="]25 But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.[/FONT]
[FONT="]26 For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.
So is it life or legalistic junk? It is life if it has shown you that you must look to the Lord Jesus Christ. It is legalistic junk if you think you can obey it by your own will and strength and attempt to tell others they must do the same.[/FONT]
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That was a prophecy in Isaiah.
The sermon on the mount is the fulfillment of that prophecy.
Everyone who told the Lord Jesus that they obeyed all the commandments He told them, always, there was one more thing they lacked.
Why? Why did He never tell anyone "Good job you good and faithful servant" after they told Him they obeyed the commandments?
Because they didn't understand the depth of the law. But the sermon on the mount explains the depth of the law. To everyone, for all time.
Be Perfect like your Father in Heaven is Perfect. People claim to obey the commandments. But not many claim to be perfect like God is Perfect.
Because it is something that is not attainable from inside their own self, by their own strength and power. They have to look outside of themselves to receive power from God, to be Perfect like God is Perfect. They have to look to Christ to receive this power.
Galatians 3:24-26
[/FONT][FONT="]24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.[/FONT]
[FONT="]25 But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.[/FONT]
[FONT="]26 For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.
So is it life or legalistic junk? It is life if it has shown you that you must look to the Lord Jesus Christ. It is legalistic junk if you think you can obey it by your own will and strength and attempt to tell others they must do the same.[/FONT]
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When the New Testament begins Jesus comes into the world and the Jews remember that God promised them that he would restore His physical kingdom as talked about earlier in the article. Jesus preached about both the Kingdom of Heaven and the Kingdom of God(John 4:24). He preached about both because he can rule both at the same time, which explains why he talks about them with conjunction with each other sometimes in the Gospels. The Kingdom of Heaven was put off for Israel because they rejected Jesus as King and chose a Gentile king instead.
Grace is both the motive and the means that God purposes and uses. His grace expressed before time began in choosing me. His grace in giving One Who bore my sins and thereby made me righteous. He then carries it out by giving us faith which is the medium by which we receive it. But my salvation is by grace alone. God did all. And it is received by faith. Had it not been for God's grace I would not be saved.
Abraham was COUNTED AS RIGHTEOUS by his faith. But God had to provide the righteousness through His grace.
Had it not been for His acting in grace and provision by grace we would never have been saved and never have believed,
Righteousness is given to us by grace. Faith merely receives it. We are justified BY HIS GRACE freely through the redemption which is in Christ Jesus whom God has set forth to be a propitiation through faith in His blood (Rom 3.24-25).
It was by the grace of God that he was reckoned as righteous. He received it by faith.
Faith in the cross would not save you but for the grace of God. Who do you think gave His Son to die on the cross.? You seem to think WE take the initiative. The Bible makes clear it is God.
we are saved by grace, the gracious action of God on our behalf, both in calling us and providing the propitiation. His part.
we receive salvation by faith, - our part - but it is through His grace .,
Abraham was COUNTED AS RIGHTEOUS by his faith. But God had to provide the righteousness through His grace.
Had it not been for His acting in grace and provision by grace we would never have been saved and never have believed,
Righteousness is given to us by grace. Faith merely receives it. We are justified BY HIS GRACE freely through the redemption which is in Christ Jesus whom God has set forth to be a propitiation through faith in His blood (Rom 3.24-25).
It was by the grace of God that he was reckoned as righteous. He received it by faith.
Faith in the cross would not save you but for the grace of God. Who do you think gave His Son to die on the cross.? You seem to think WE take the initiative. The Bible makes clear it is God.
we are saved by grace, the gracious action of God on our behalf, both in calling us and providing the propitiation. His part.
we receive salvation by faith, - our part - but it is through His grace .,
~~~ It's a well-known fact that in G777's mind, grace does everything.~~~
The scripture says that's not true
We are changed by the Spirit of God.
And we all, who with unveiled faces contemplate the Lord's glory, are being transformed into his image with ever-increasing glory, which comes from the Lord, who is the Spirit.
New Living Translation
So all of us who have had that veil removed can see and reflect the glory of the Lord. And the Lord--who is the Spirit--makes us more and more like him as we are changed into his glorious image.
English Standard Version
And we all, with unveiled face, beholding the glory of the Lord, are being transformed into the same image from one degree of glory to another. For this comes from the Lord who is the Spirit.
Berean Study Bible
And we, who with unveiled faces all reflect the glory of the Lord, are being transformed into His image with intensifying glory, which comes from the Lord, who is the Spirit.
Berean Literal Bible
And we all having been unveiled in face, beholding as in a mirror the glory of the Lord, are being transformed into the same image, from glory to glory, even as from the Lord, the Spirit.
New American Standard Bible
But we all, with unveiled face, beholding as in a mirror the glory of the Lord, are being transformed into the same image from glory to glory, just as from the Lord, the Spirit.
King James Bible
But we all, with open face beholding as in a glass the glory of the Lord, are changed into the same image from glory to glory, even as by the Spirit of the Lord.
Don't you even realize how stupid you look when you say grace does everything, when the Bible tells us plainly that's not true?
Are you so eat up with Hp******e & Joseph prince that you can't even discern the scriptures?!?
The scripture says that's not true
We are changed by the Spirit of God.
2 Corinthians 3:18
New International Version
And we all, who with unveiled faces contemplate the Lord's glory, are being transformed into his image with ever-increasing glory, which comes from the Lord, who is the Spirit.
New Living Translation
So all of us who have had that veil removed can see and reflect the glory of the Lord. And the Lord--who is the Spirit--makes us more and more like him as we are changed into his glorious image.
English Standard Version
And we all, with unveiled face, beholding the glory of the Lord, are being transformed into the same image from one degree of glory to another. For this comes from the Lord who is the Spirit.
Berean Study Bible
And we, who with unveiled faces all reflect the glory of the Lord, are being transformed into His image with intensifying glory, which comes from the Lord, who is the Spirit.
Berean Literal Bible
And we all having been unveiled in face, beholding as in a mirror the glory of the Lord, are being transformed into the same image, from glory to glory, even as from the Lord, the Spirit.
New American Standard Bible
But we all, with unveiled face, beholding as in a mirror the glory of the Lord, are being transformed into the same image from glory to glory, just as from the Lord, the Spirit.
King James Bible
But we all, with open face beholding as in a glass the glory of the Lord, are changed into the same image from glory to glory, even as by the Spirit of the Lord.
Don't you even realize how stupid you look when you say grace does everything, when the Bible tells us plainly that's not true?
Are you so eat up with Hp******e & Joseph prince that you can't even discern the scriptures?!?
To keep the malice and slander down to a minimum again I will post what I have said over 50x times on CC. The Holy Spirit transforms us as we behold the glory/goodness of the Lord as in a mirror. 2 Cor. 3:17-18
The Holy Spirit is called the Spirit of grace. Heb. 10:29
I have also said dozens of times that we participate in this with the Holy Spirit for it is God who is at work in us both to will and to do of His good pleasure. Phil. 2:13
Malice and the slandering of others in the body of Christ is no different then those that are living a homosexual lifestyle. They are all in the same lists as works of the flesh.
The Holy Spirit is called the Spirit of grace. Heb. 10:29
I have also said dozens of times that we participate in this with the Holy Spirit for it is God who is at work in us both to will and to do of His good pleasure. Phil. 2:13
Malice and the slandering of others in the body of Christ is no different then those that are living a homosexual lifestyle. They are all in the same lists as works of the flesh.
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~~~ There you are..... doing what he says others are doing. I wonder how many folks fall for that old trick? ~~~
New American Standard Bible
For if we go on sinning willfully after receiving the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins,
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[TD="class: eng"]For if we go on sinning[/TD]
[TD="class: greek2"]ἁμαρτανόντων[/TD]
[TD="class: translit"]amartanontōn[/TD]
[TD="class: strongsnt"]264[/TD]
[TD="class: eng2"]to miss the mark, do wrong, sin[/TD]
[TD="class: eng3"]from an early root hamart-[/TD]
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[TD="class: eng"]willfully[/TD]
[TD="class: greek2"]Ἐκουσίως[/TD]
[TD="class: translit"]ekousiōs[/TD]
[TD="class: strongsnt"]1596[/TD]
[TD="class: eng2"]voluntarily[/TD]
[TD="class: eng3"]from hekousios[/TD]
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[TD="class: eng"]after[/TD]
[TD="class: greek2"]μετὰ[/TD]
[TD="class: translit"]meta[/TD]
[TD="class: strongsnt"]3326[/TD]
[TD="class: eng2"]with, among, after[/TD]
[TD="class: eng3"]a prim. preposition[/TD]
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[TD="class: eng"]receiving[/TD]
[TD="class: greek2"]λαβεῖν[/TD]
[TD="class: translit"]labein[/TD]
[TD="class: strongsnt"]2983[/TD]
[TD="class: eng2"]to take, receive[/TD]
[TD="class: eng3"]from a prim. root lab-[/TD]
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[TD="class: eng"]the knowledge[/TD]
[TD="class: greek2"]ἐπίγνωσιν[/TD]
[TD="class: translit"]epignōsin[/TD]
[TD="class: strongsnt"]1922[/TD]
[TD="class: eng2"]recognition, knowledge[/TD]
[TD="class: eng3"]from epiginóskó[/TD]
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[TD="class: eng"]of the truth,[/TD]
[TD="class: greek2"]ἀληθείας[/TD]
[TD="class: translit"]alētheias[/TD]
[TD="class: strongsnt"]225[/TD]
[TD="class: eng2"]truth[/TD]
[TD="class: eng3"]from aléthés[/TD]
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[TD="class: eng"]there no longer[/TD]
[TD="class: greek2"]οὐκέτι[/TD]
[TD="class: translit"]ouketi[/TD]
[TD="class: strongsnt"]3765[/TD]
[TD="class: eng2"]no longer, no more[/TD]
[TD="class: eng3"]from ou, and eti[/TD]
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[TD="class: eng"]remains[/TD]
[TD="class: greek2"]ἀπολείπεται[/TD]
[TD="class: translit"]apoleipetai[/TD]
[TD="class: strongsnt"]620[/TD]
[TD="class: eng2"]to leave, leave behind[/TD]
[TD="class: eng3"]from apo and leipó[/TD]
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[TD="class: eng"]a sacrifice[/TD]
[TD="class: greek2"]θυσία[/TD]
[TD="class: translit"]thusia[/TD]
[TD="class: strongsnt"]2378[/TD]
[TD="class: eng2"]a sacrifice[/TD]
[TD="class: eng3"]from thuó[/TD]
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[TD="class: eng"]for sins,[/TD]
[TD="class: greek2"]ἁμαρτιῶν[/TD]
[TD="class: translit"]amartiōn[/TD]
[TD="class: strongsnt"]266[/TD]
[TD="class: eng2"]a sin, failure[/TD]
[TD="class: eng3"]from hamartanó[/TD]
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Ellicott's Commentary for English Readers
(26) For.—The connecting links are the thought of the consequences to which such sinful neglect (Hebrews 10:25) may lead, and the awful revelation of judgment which the final day will bring. Even more clearly than in Hebrews 6:4-6 the state described is one of wilful and continued sin, which is the result and the expression of apostasy from Christ. It is not, “If we fall under temptation and commit sin;” but, “If we are sinning wilfully.” The descriptive words are few as compared with those of the former passage, but they teach the same lesson. Not merely the “knowledge” but the “full knowledge” (Romans 1:28) of the truth has been received by those to whom the writer here makes reference; they have been “sanctified in the blood of the covenant” (Hebrews 10:29). For such “there remaineth no longer a sacrifice for sins:” that offering of Jesus which they deliberately reject has abolished all the earlier sacrifices. The observances and ceremonies of Judaism, which had been full of meaning whilst they pointed to Him that was to come, have lost all their virtue through His coming. Nay more: for such sin as this, the sin of knowing and wilful rejection of the only Sin offering, God has provided no other sacrifice. In its general significance this passage does not differ from Hebrews 6:4-6.
When it comes to the meanings of scripture, G777 gets the majority wrong.
And no wonder..... he will search for videos of no-name people & check no-name websites of people nobody knows to validate everything he says.
G777 will not use a well established commentary, obviously because it doesn't agree with him & you simply can't twist a commentary.
In a nutshell, G777 has no clue what he's talking about.
To anyone's satisfaction, I can post numerous commentaries to match the one above.
I believe and so do many others that we need to look at all scripture through the finished work of Christ and in the context it was given in or that "text will con us" and the wilfull sinning Hebrews was taking about from Chapter 3 on up to Heb. 10:26 is the sin of unbelief. I realize that this conflicts with some of our church teachings that we were taught.
Would you agree that all works of the flesh are "wilfull" acts?. Let's take "outbursts of anger" as an example. If a person has outbursts of anger for the last 2 years since he was born again and he has an episode today and then dies right afterward - does this Christian go to hell now because he wilfully sinned and there remains no more sacrifice for sins as Heb. 10:26 says?
Would you agree that all works of the flesh are "wilfull" acts?. Let's take "outbursts of anger" as an example. If a person has outbursts of anger for the last 2 years since he was born again and he has an episode today and then dies right afterward - does this Christian go to hell now because he wilfully sinned and there remains no more sacrifice for sins as Heb. 10:26 says?