Should a Christian support the Democratic Party?

[Meggido]

But the seat has belonged to the Republicans since the 1970s. That's an eternity in political terms. I don't think many people there would have been wooed by the same progressive campaign that failed to win Hillary Clinton the presidency last year.

It is like the debacle Al Gore caused back in 2000. That election was his to win. Despite the closeness of the race 2 things emerged that many DEMS know but refuse to face.

First, had Gore won his own home state of Tennessee he would have won and there would have been no need for what took place.

Second,
Many DEM strategists asked AL Gore to not stand with Bill Clinton as the DEMS in Congress and Senate did, during the Starr fiasco. If Gore had publicly said he could not stand with a President who was lying about having sex in the WhiteHouse, he would have won by a landslide and been instantly reelected.

 

[3putter]

Hi Nick,

No we can't support either party really. I'll vote, but my husband and I have been in both parties and at their meetings.

They both act alike because the parties themselves are a part of the world system. Their values have nothing to do with God. It has to do with, "how can we get elected"? No matter what!

And actually it was an eye opener for us. We were under a false delusion that the Republican Party was God's party. How foolish we can be. Innocently and unknowingly, we were deceived .......... we got a taste of the Republican party and it was just as repulsive as the Democratic party.

They are both just an 'it'. It's an entity.

We vote for a person and not for a party.

That is how I vote also.

 

[Depleted]

There was a time in the US where democrats and republicans were both closer to the center and held more to a biblical view of marriage and the sanctity of human life (against abortion). If you remember just a few years ago Obama himself in his first campaign said he was for traditional marriage( one man one woman). But those days are gone. To even be considered a democrat by their own party you must be pro-abortion and pro-gay marriage and agree with all the other views of gender they hold. My question is should a Christian support someone who opposes so blatantly what the scriptures teach? There is NO WAY to take the good and leave the bad, you get the WHOLE candidate.


Before anyone turns this around and ask something about Trump, or poses a question like, "Well how can a Christian support republicans when..." If you want to ask a DIFFERENT question start another post. Let's just focus on the question asked in this post.

I neither support nor hate Democrats. Anymore, I don't support nor hate Republicans either. I'll vote for Reps, but it's got nothing to do with support. More desperation.

Maybe it's time to remember what the party platforms really are and hold politicians accountable to the party they claim to support.

(The last time I actually supported a candidate, you weren't born yet. You were born by the end of his second term thought. )

 

[Denadii]

There was a time in the US where democrats and republicans were both closer to the center and held more to a biblical view of marriage and the sanctity of human life (against abortion). If you remember just a few years ago Obama himself in his first campaign said he was for traditional marriage( one man one woman). But those days are gone. To even be considered a democrat by their own party you must be pro-abortion and pro-gay marriage and agree with all the other views of gender they hold. My question is should a Christian support someone who opposes so blatantly what the scriptures teach? There is NO WAY to take the good and leave the bad, you get the WHOLE candidate.


Before anyone turns this around and ask something about Trump, or poses a question like, "Well how can a Christian support republicans when..." If you want to ask a DIFFERENT question start another post. Let's just focus on the question asked in this post.

Look on YouTube for Hilary's America Dinesh D'sousa tells it properly. And accurately https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgrJ4C2mJ4w

 

[Denadii]

I do not think this should be in the Bible discussion.

Many of us are not from the USA.

It has the same value to us as my question "Should I support ODS or ČSSD" would have to you...

In case you're interested? All political parties the world over divide into one way of thinking or the other...Americans call them Democrats and Republican, Canada calls them Liberal and Conservative, I think England calls them the same. What does your country call them? They will be almost identical in the way they think...For example Merkel of Germany is a Democrat. Whatever they call that there.

 

[RedeemedGift]

In Norway we have a wide range of parties to vote for, and who you vote for is considered a private matter (though of course here too some people will have very strong and public opinions on the matter )

Our political jungle is ranging from extreme left (Communist party) to not quite as extreme, but still far out Right ("Progress" party ) .... and then there are the reasonably normal parties in between

We even have two "Christian" parties, although one of them I know little about, and the other one seems to have less Christianity on it's agenda than some of the secular parties! (but at least they won't actively try to remove Christianity)

Some of the parties are rather small, so if any of those win they would have to form a coalition government:
Good thing: If one of the parties are extreme, the others keep them in check
Bad thing: They can never get to an agreement about anything

I am considering a blank vote this year....

Without googling, it sounds like a parliamentary system?

 

[wwjd_kilden]

Without googling, it sounds like a parliamentary system?

Yup. We even have a Labour party like you guys do (though I don't know enough about UK politics to know what they actually do ..... I just know all our politicians lie, and assume all other politicians do as well )

 

[kaylagrl]

There was a time in the US where democrats and republicans were both closer to the center and held more to a biblical view of marriage and the sanctity of human life (against abortion). If you remember just a few years ago Obama himself in his first campaign said he was for traditional marriage( one man one woman). But those days are gone. To even be considered a democrat by their own party you must be pro-abortion and pro-gay marriage and agree with all the other views of gender they hold. My question is should a Christian support someone who opposes so blatantly what the scriptures teach? There is NO WAY to take the good and leave the bad, you get the WHOLE candidate.


Before anyone turns this around and ask something about Trump, or poses a question like, "Well how can a Christian support republicans when..." If you want to ask a DIFFERENT question start another post. Let's just focus on the question asked in this post.

Simple answer,no. Especially since the election and the things I have seen happening in the Dem party. As a Christian I could not support the Dem party with what they now believe.

 

[Denadii]

I second Trofimus!

This is not the Bible or theology! It should be moved to the Misc forum, or the News Forum.

As a Canadian, I get tired of people thinking this is an American site, when it is an international forum. Take some time to look at the flags. People are from all over!

Besides, this is the BIBLE Discussion Forum! Not the political speculation forum!

Say! You're not one of those Canadians who voted Trudeau because he's cute are you?

 

[grif101]

I considered myself Republican for many years because they were closer to Biblical values than the Democrats. While they still may be, I have changed my party to Independent ONLY because the other 2 parties all act like children! Constant bickering! I honestly don't know much about the Independent party, but it's the only other choice when I'm asked what party I am. Maybe I should say Miscellaneous party, or better yet, the Christian party. It would be interesting to see the looks on people's faces.

I still vote Republican seeing as they are the "lesser of the two evils". I was unsure of Trump, not because he had a hard time being silent, but because i just didn't know if he was sincere in his Biblical stance. I've been happy with his progress so far. I think we needed exactly someone like him. Non-politician, not in anyone's back pocket.

I don't believe we'll ever be completely satisfied with a candidate. All we can do is vote for whoever seems to have the best moral ideas. And right now, that is NOT the Democratic Party.

 

[Locutus]

Bit like asking should Christians buy a wedding cake from a gay baker.....

 

[kaylagrl]

Say! You're not one of those Canadians who voted Trudeau because he's cute are you?

Lol totally great reason to vote a person in office. smh

 

[JaumeJ]

Why not ask what political party Jesus Christ would want us to join? First which is His party? Was it the absolute authority of Caesar, or perhaps tehkingdom ruled by Herod?

While we are at it, why not decide which denomination Jesus Christ is a member of? That should prove interesting.

OK......I am out of bounds here. Our Example does not belong to nor endorse any political party nor does He belong to any denomination.

The anwers have all been anwered to my great satisfaction in the Word. He is King of the Kingdom to which I belong, and He is the great teacher of the Faith of Abraham.......cool.............my bad or my good?

Good night from here, the Eu..............God bless all who believe Jesus Christ, amen.

 

[stonesoffire]

Thy Kingdom come
Thy will be done...on earth...as it is in heaven.

Nations all have a god. We have the Judean God

I have a lot of respect for you Jaume...but on this I believe it's error. I used to think this way until Obama.

 

[Enow]

I am not sure that every elected official of the Democratic Party are of the same mindset of the majority, and I believe the same is true of the Republican Party.

As long as the people cannot govern the government, then where is the limit on self serving politicians?

How can the American people prevent government from giving themselves raises and other perks like having all their health issues paid by the American taxpayers or when elected out of office, they get a stipend yearly for serving their government?

It seems if we take away their perks, get them on the level with the rest of us in seeking healthcare, they would create a system that benefits all Americans, including the poor.

We want health care for every American, but what if we do away with health insurance altogether? What would hospitals and doctors and medicine makers do then when there are no health insurance companies? Work with the people in making things affordable to save lives instead of making a profit at the lives of the patients under health insurance companies?

The real enemy is this liberty that those in the medical field have in price gouging services, treatments, and medicine which is why Republicans claim how Obamacare will explode because patients are not going to "shop" for the lowest price. Our government in the past had put a cap on prices before so why not put a cap on prices now to really cut wasteful spending in Obamacare? Too much work? Too much time taken away from seeking their own gain in kissing lobbyists' tootsies?

I do not know how the people can take power back into the hands of the people because surely, it is not going to happen by an elected official. Mayhap a national petition to the Supreme Court to end those excessive perks to the government? To set the power to give raises or not give raises back in the hands of the people to vote when election times comes?

It may be too late. Might as well set your heart on the things above, because the Bridegroom will be coming soon.

 

[JaumeJ]

I am not certain as to what you are in disagreement with. I do not like any person for his or her political views, but I do love all people. If people in this forum wish to discuss politics, they really should go to another title i.e. miscellaneous, or create on eon politics.

I know I love Obama, and I know I love Trump because I want their souls saved. As for my post, it is with the intention of high lighting and magnifying the foolishness of mixing politics with our Savior's mission and teaching..they do not mix in honesty ever.

There is no such denomination of religion for Jesus Christ as "Judaism" or "Judean." Jesus was of the faith of Abraham and taught the particulars of the faith of Abraham, beginning in Genesis.

How or why you have taken offensis well beyond my powers of reason. I pray it is a misunderstandign, since I pray the Lor'd's prayer more than daily, and I understand the words and mean them when I pray. Always, no matter what a I pray, I ask "not my will but yours," but thank you for the reminder. It is good for all who read your post. God bless you always......j

Thy Kingdom come
Thy will be done...on earth...as it is in heaven.

Nations all have a god. We have the Judean God

I have a lot of respect for you Jaume...but on this I believe it's error. I used to think this way until Obama.

 

[RickyZ]

I considered myself Republican for many years because they were closer to Biblical values than the Democrats. While they still may be, I have changed my party to Independent ONLY because the other 2 parties all act like children! Constant bickering! I honestly don't know much about the Independent party, but it's the only other choice when I'm asked what party I am. Maybe I should say Miscellaneous party, or better yet, the Christian party. It would be interesting to see the looks on people's faces.

I still vote Republican seeing as they are the "lesser of the two evils". I was unsure of Trump, not because he had a hard time being silent, but because i just didn't know if he was sincere in his Biblical stance. I've been happy with his progress so far. I think we needed exactly someone like him. Non-politician, not in anyone's back pocket.

I don't believe we'll ever be completely satisfied with a candidate. All we can do is vote for whoever seems to have the best moral ideas. And right now, that is NOT the Democratic Party.

There is the option of not belonging to ANY party. That's the one I took.

And when every candidate put forth is a lying sob, you can't vote for the one with the best moral ideas because they don't truly exist.

 

[grif101]

There is the option of not belonging to ANY party. That's the one I took.

And when every candidate put forth is a lying sob, you can't vote for the one with the best moral ideas because they don't truly exist.

So don't vote at all? When Christians stay at home, people like Hillary are voted in. My conscience said I had to choose.

 

[JaumeJ]

Jesus Christ is of one political or governmental pursuasion, and that is the absolute monarchy of His Throne.

Using His Gospel in part is criminal (a sin) and using it in whole would be impossible to justify a political connection to faith in Jesus Christ.

Not voting at all has been my way except for one time, and I actually did vote.

When I see the candidates, I cannot cvhoose the lesser of the evils, so I will not play Satan's politial games. to vote for any evil, lesser or major.

Do not use our blessed Savior as a pitch for a political party, He has nothing to do with Caesar or Herod, nor do His people.

So don't vote at all? When Christians stay at home, people like Hillary are voted in. My conscience said I had to choose.

 

[RickyZ]

So don't vote at all? When Christians stay at home, people like Hillary are voted in. My conscience said I had to choose.

I study third party candidates and vote for them. I haven't voted for a republican or democrat since Ross Perot took a run at it. And no, that is not wasting my vote, votes are wasted when you vote for more of the same thing we've been force fed by both sides of the aisle. That's what I don't get, everybody hates the way things are but they vote for more of the same every. single. time. Isn't that the very definition of insanity?