Should a Christian tithe, what does the Bible say

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prophecyuk

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"you're not recognizing any difference between freewill offering and remittance of tithe, and not recognizing any difference between compulsion under law to return a specified portion and uncompelled generosity. "

If this were not a freewill offering, how would this rob God? Remember now the testimony, it is this whole nation. That proves that it is not some who gave in the law and some who failed to give in the law, these tithes. It proves this was failure to be generous and of good will towards God and the poor, from every man of Israel, because all lacked faith, and faith in righteousness, and the righteous gives and spares not, but without faith means wicked and they are greedy all day long.

Malachi 3:8 Will a man rob God? Yet ye have robbed me. But ye say, Wherein have we robbed thee? In tithes and offerings.
9 Ye are cursed with a curse: for ye have robbed me, even this whole nation.

Proverbs 21:26 He coveteth greedily all the day long: but the righteousgiveth and spareth not.
 

posthuman

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Proverbs 10:19

In the multitude of words there wanteth not sin: but he that refraineth his lips [is] wise.
 

prophecyuk

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From people like prophecyuk who bastardize the word tithe and who teach and have been taught that the tithe is a law for the believer in Christ.

Biblically a tithe paid in cash should be 12% ((per Leviticus 27)) as I've explained multiple times. A tithe required of living creatures/souls cannot be lawfully paid with coin.

Biblically we do not tithe. That is a Sinai covenant command, not a command given by Christ to the church.
Tithing is seen under Abraham not under anything else, and then the new testament continues the same way of faith in Christ, giving that same way

Maybe you have problems comprehending simple things of faith?
 

posthuman

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If this were not a freewill offering, how would this rob God?
Where is the Gentile believers grafted in by the blood of Christ to the covenant of His body ever accused of robbing God?

You're conflating Moses with Christ. The scripture makes a difference that you're willfully ignoring. Unless it's just your reading comprehension problem....?
 
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"you're not recognizing any difference between freewill offering and remittance of tithe, and not recognizing any difference between compulsion under law to return a specified portion and uncompelled generosity. "

If this were not a freewill offering, how would this rob God? Remember now the testimony, it is this whole nation. That proves that it is not some who gave in the law and some who failed to give in the law, these tithes. It proves this was failure to be generous and of good will towards God and the poor, from every man of Israel, because all lacked faith, and faith in righteousness, and the righteous gives and spares not, but without faith means wicked and they are greedy all day long.

Malachi 3:8 Will a man rob God? Yet ye have robbed me. But ye say, Wherein have we robbed thee? In tithes and offerings.
9 Ye are cursed with a curse: for ye have robbed me, even this whole nation.

Proverbs 21:26 He coveteth greedily all the day long: but the righteousgiveth and spareth not.
It was robbing GOD because Jacob vowed a vow to GOD that he would tithe of everything GOD promised to give him. Jacob did not receive the promised land to be able to tithe, so GOD required payment of that vow from his children who did inherit the land. GOD was owed that tithe from Jacob's vow.
 
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We are THE CIRCUMCISION, that is the same circumcision or not?
Physical circumcision and circumcision of the heart are not the same things as proven by the fact that GOD told those who were already physically circumcised to circumcise their hearts.
 

prophecyuk

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Where is the Gentile believers grafted in by the blood of Christ to the covenant of His body ever accused of robbing God?

You're conflating Moses with Christ. The scripture makes a difference that you're willfully ignoring. Unless it's just your reading comprehension problem....?
Acts 5:5 But a certain man named Ananias, with Sapphira his wife, sold a possession,
2 And kept back part of the price, his wife also being privy to it, and brought a certain part, and laid it at the apostles' feet.
3 But Peter said, Ananias, why hath Satan filled thine heart to lie to the Holy Ghost, and to keep back part of the price of the land?
4 Whiles it remained, was it not thine own? and after it was sold, was it not in thine own power? why hast thou conceived this thing in thine heart? thou hast not lied unto men, but unto God.
5 And Ananias hearing these words fell down, and gave up the ghost: and great fear came on all them that heard these things.
6 And the young men arose, wound him up, and carried him out, and buried him.
7 And it was about the space of three hours after, when his wife, not knowing what was done, came in.
8 And Peter answered unto her, Tell me whether ye sold the land for so much? And she said, Yea, for so much.
9 Then Peter said unto her, How is it that ye have agreed together to tempt the Spirit of the Lord? behold, the feet of them which have buried thy husband are at the door, and shall carry thee out.
10 Then fell she down straightway at his feet, and yielded up the ghost: and the young men came in, and found her dead, and, carrying her forth, buried her by her husband.
11 And great fear came upon all the church, and upon as many as heard these things.
 

prophecyuk

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It was robbing GOD because Jacob vowed a vow to GOD that he would tithe of everything GOD promised to give him. Jacob did not receive the promised land to be able to tithe, so GOD required payment of that vow from his children who did inherit the land. GOD was owed that tithe from Jacob's vow.
Every man is res[posible for his own sins


Deuteronomy 24:16

The fathers shall not be put to death for the children, neither shall the children be put to death for the fathers: every man shall be put to death for his own sin.
 

prophecyuk

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Physical circumcision and circumcision of the heart are not the same things as proven by the fact that GOD told those who were already physically circumcised to circumcise their hearts.
Because they were never really circumcised, hence why we ARE THE CIRCUMCISION

Philippians 3:3
For we are the circumcision, which worship God in thespirit, and rejoice in Christ Jesus, and have no confidence in the flesh.
 

posthuman

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Tithing is seen under Abraham not under anything else, and then the new testament continues the same way of faith in Christ, giving that same way

Maybe you have problems comprehending simple things of faith?
Abraham gave spoils of war once to the king of Salem.

You pretending Moses doesn't exist now?
 

prophecyuk

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Literal physical cutting of the male genitalia foreskin.

Don't play games.
One cuts skin and the other cuts the heart, but both were compelled to be circumcised of the heart, so it cant be any different

Deuteronomy 10:16
Circumcise therefore the foreskin of your heart, and be no more stiffnecked.


Jeremiah 4:4
Circumcise yourselves to the Lord, and take away the foreskins of your heart, ye men of Judah and inhabitants of Jerusalem: lest my fury come forth like fire, and burn that none can quench it, because of the evil of your doings.
 

prophecyuk

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Abraham gave spoils of war once to the king of Salem.

You pretending Moses doesn't exist now?
Abraham only had to do oncew for all like Christ for an example to us in faith, as it is told he is the father of us all

Hebrews 10:10
By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.
 

posthuman

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Because they were never really circumcised, hence why we ARE THE CIRCUMCISION

Philippians 3:3
For we are the circumcision, which worship God in thespirit, and rejoice in Christ Jesus, and have no confidence in the flesh.
Physical circumcision.
Literal, fleshly, corporeal, actual circumcision.

Once God's required law, now no longer

I caution you not to pervert the Bible out of your own vanity in effort to squirm out of the appearance of the fact that you've said things which are false. Incredibly foolish practice.
 

prophecyuk

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You pretending Moses doesn't exist now?"

Hebrews 3:
5 And Moses verily was faithful in all his house, as a servant, for a testimony of those things which were to be spoken after;
6 But Christ as a son over his own house; whose house are we, if we hold fast the confidence and the rejoicing of the hope firm unto the end.
 

prophecyuk

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Physical circumcision.
Literal, fleshly, corporeal, actual circumcision.

Once God's required law, now no longer

I caution you not to pervert the Bible out of your own vanity in effort to squirm out of the appearance of the fact that you've said things which are false. Incredibly foolish practice.
You give no bible, so I cant say the same to you.

you speak as a dictionary only

So in faith, circumcise the foreskin of your heart=in the flesh also

Deuteronomy 10:16
Circumcise therefore the foreskin of your heart, and be no more stiffnecked.


Jeremiah 4:4
Circumcise yourselves to the Lord, and take away the foreskins of your heart, ye men of Judah and inhabitants of Jerusalem: lest my fury come forth like fire, and burn that none can quench it, because of the evil of your doings.
 

posthuman

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One cuts skin and the other cuts the heart, but both were compelled to be circumcised of the heart, so it cant be any different

Deuteronomy 10:16
Circumcise therefore the foreskin of your heart, and be no more stiffnecked.


Jeremiah 4:4
Circumcise yourselves to the Lord, and take away the foreskins of your heart, ye men of Judah and inhabitants of Jerusalem: lest my fury come forth like fire, and burn that none can quench it, because of the evil of your doings.
This does not erase the literal actual fact that physical circumcision was commanded. Moses was nearly killed by God Himself for failing to keep it. God didn't accept the nonsense you're saying then. He demanded physical circumcision of the genitalia. No man can circmcise his heart, as scripture says - not by human hands.

Quit ducking the fact of it, I plead with you! Confess the truth!
 
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Because they were never really circumcised, hence why we ARE THE CIRCUMCISION

Philippians 3:3
For we are the circumcision, which worship God in thespirit, and rejoice in Christ Jesus, and have no confidence in the flesh.
You're a very confused or deceitful person. All males in Israel were really circumcised, otherwise they wouldn't have been Israel. Some had circumcised hearts, and some didn't. So that proves that they are two separate things.

Paul uses the phrase "we are the circumcision" as a figure of speech for "people of the covenant".
 

prophecyuk

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This does not erase the literal actual fact that physical circumcision was commanded. Moses was nearly killed by God Himself for failing to keep it. God didn't accept the nonsense you're saying then. He demanded physical circumcision of the genitalia. No man can circmcise his heart, as scripture says - not by human hands.

Quit ducking the fact of it, I plead with you! Confess the truth!
Circumcision continues, and it is in the heart, the heart is in our body, you can say cutting the flesh is gone, but it is improved now by cutting the foreskin of the heart as told, you can hardly show anything to cease, you only show how it did increase