Should homosexuals be put into jail?

[hornetguy]

Good grief... I take a couple of weeks off and this place gets over run with Pharisees.....

First of all.... NOBODY in this forum is saying that homosexuality is ok. Nobody here is "embracing" it. I know of at least one member here (perhaps a former member?) who was a practicing homosexual who left that lifestyle after accepting Jesus as his/her savior.
Do they still have random thoughts and desires from that lifestyle? Probably... Do they ACT on them? No.....

You newbie Pharisees would condemn them to Hell, and feel really self-righteous about it. It's pretty sickening, seeing the anger and hatred displayed toward other human sinners.

Jesus welcomed and hung out with sinners of all kinds... as he said, the "well" people have no need of a doctor, but the sick people do. Our job here is to be Jesus in the flesh... and to introduce the sick people to the great physician.... we are not supposed to decide "well, they're sick, we might as well kill them off".....

 

[UnderGrace]

Good grief... I take a couple of weeks off and this place gets over run with Pharisees.....

First of all.... NOBODY in this forum is saying that homosexuality is ok. Nobody here is "embracing" it. I know of at least one member here (perhaps a former member?) who was a practicing homosexual who left that lifestyle after accepting Jesus as his/her savior.
Do they still have random thoughts and desires from that lifestyle? Probably... Do they ACT on them? No.....

You newbie Pharisees would condemn them to Hell, and feel really self-righteous about it. It's pretty sickening, seeing the anger and hatred displayed toward other human sinners.

Jesus welcomed and hung out with sinners of all kinds... as he said, the "well" people have no need of a doctor, but the sick people do. Our job here is to be Jesus in the flesh... and to introduce the sick people to the great physician.... we are not supposed to decide "well, they're sick, we might as well kill them off".....

Yes all this happened because you took time off......so don't do it again....hahaha

 

[pjharrison]

Good grief... I take a couple of weeks off and this place gets over run with Pharisees.....

First of all.... NOBODY in this forum is saying that homosexuality is ok. Nobody here is "embracing" it. I know of at least one member here (perhaps a former member?) who was a practicing homosexual who left that lifestyle after accepting Jesus as his/her savior.
Do they still have random thoughts and desires from that lifestyle? Probably... Do they ACT on them? No.....

You newbie Pharisees would condemn them to Hell, and feel really self-righteous about it. It's pretty sickening, seeing the anger and hatred displayed toward other human sinners.

Jesus welcomed and hung out with sinners of all kinds... as he said, the "well" people have no need of a doctor, but the sick people do. Our job here is to be Jesus in the flesh... and to introduce the sick people to the great physician.... we are not supposed to decide "well, they're sick, we might as well kill them off".....

And he cast demons out of them.

 

[UnderGrace]

Would be interesting as long as they are serious study! Could you summarize what these effects are?

How about you find a reputable medical journal with reliable and valid studies and do your own research. Of course you would need to be willing to be read with an objective lens, you seem to have already accepted the SJW world view so this may be a hurdle.

 

[hornetguy]

And he cast demons out of them.

Yes, out of the ones that were obviously possessed by violent demons. He didn't cast out any demons from the woman at the well, or out of Matthew, who was a tax collector... basically a legally authorized thief. He obviously didn't cast the demon out of Judas.

He did not cast out any demons from the thief on the cross who reviled him.

Jesus met the sinners where they were, and ate with them, and offered them healing.

 

[hornetguy]

Yes all this happened because you took time off......so don't do it again....hahaha

I'll have to be more vigilant.... lol....

We seem to be missing a LOT of the regulars here... all the ones with faith grounded in knowing Jesus.....

 

[UnderGrace]

I'll have to be more vigilant.... lol....

We seem to be missing a LOT of the regulars here... all the ones with faith grounded in knowing Jesus.....

Absolutely, changes the dynamics considerably!! Glad you are back.

 

[pjharrison]

Yes, out of the ones that were obviously possessed by violent demons. He didn't cast out any demons from the woman at the well, or out of Matthew, who was a tax collector... basically a legally authorized thief. He obviously didn't cast the demon out of Judas.

He did not cast out any demons from the thief on the cross who reviled him.

Jesus met the sinners where they were, and ate with them, and offered them healing.

If you want to be friends with homosexuals that your business. I don't want to see what they do. I know Jesus wouldn't either. It is a demon. Men are not made to sleep with another man or woman with a woman. If you keep sinning intentionally it bring other things on you, because it keep a door open for other demons.

 

[Slayer]

There has been much speculation about the source of the aids epidemic in man, one recent
study conducted by the University of Alabama and others suggests that it came from the
killing of chimpanzees for food in central Africa.

These same researchers would scoff at the instruction in the Bible about eating only clean
meats (Deut. 14), and yet, if they were correct in their assessment of the origin of aids in
mankind, God’s rules for food would have prevented the problem completely.
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New infections are most prevelent from Male-to-male sexual contact.
Found in young gay men in Los Angeles, New York City, and San Francisco, back in 1981.

The United Nations has suggested that we need to commit billion per year in prevention
campaign to control the continued spread of the disease. They instruct people in the use of
condoms and how to clean needles for intravenous drug use, and to encourage more open
discussion about health between sex partners.

The simple solution escapes the intellectual mindset completely. That is this: Do not use
intravenous drugs, and do not participate in premarital or extramarital sex, or a gay sex life.


People by the millions are dying, and our leaders refuse to apply methods proven throughout
history to control the spread of contagious diseases. Instead, they want to talk about “better
communication between sex partners” and “safe sex.” As they repeat this useless rhetoric,
millions more become infected and will die.

The quarantine laws of the Bible, properly coupled with God’s perspective on sex and marriage,
would have brought a quick end to the aids epidemic. Countless people would have been spared
the suffering and tragedy they are now experiencing.

The “experts” feel God’s rules are too harsh and cause too much suffering, but that does not
make sense. Explain to a child whose parents are dead that it would have been too harsh to
quarantine the person who passed hiv to his or her mother. Explain to the infant born hiv-positive
that rules preventing his mother from getting aids would have been too severe.

Another problem our leaders have with regard to aids is the acceptance of inappropriate behavior.
One prominent author, in an article about aids, uses the sterile phrase “commercial sex workers”
for prostitutes—lending dignity and acceptance to this ungodly “profession.”

It is attitudes like his that have prevented health officials from taking a stand for quarantining
infected people and protecting the rest of mankind. The unwillingness of our leaders to stand for
morals and decency is a main contributing factor in the continued spread of hiv/aids throughout
the world. If the people in authority would take a stand for proper human values and a stand
against sexual immorality, this disease would be a small problem.


God pronounced severe punishment on those who have sex outside of marriage
(Deut. 22:20-24). Mankind continues to try to get around God’s rules. hiv and aids
prove that God’s rules were given out of love for all people. Following them would
result in the elimination of these dreaded diseases.

Prevention by proper living—both sexually and hygienically
—is the only sound way to stop these epidemics

“That means premarital, extramarital, homosexual and perverted sex practices
—all heinous sins in God’s sight—must be completely avoided by single persons
or married couples wanting to keep clear of these diseases as much as possible!

The Creator, for now, is letting human beings, for the most part, reap the natural
consequences of their own ways of living. But He always intervenes and punishes
nations in due time for violation of His laws, given for the well-being of mankind.”

Thanks for taking to time to share this truth with us. we could go even further and say all the things wrong with our world are a direct result of sin and rebellion against God.

The love of money has lead to all kinds of crime and the murder of millions and sexual immorality has caused millions more deaths and broken families due to adultery. Rebellion and sin against Gods commandments have caused untold harm to the fabric of society through drug and alcohol addiction.

We could list many more things like war, which are the direct result of sin and rebellion. I read that Europe's Jewish population was spared during the black plague which wiped out 1/3 of Europe's population, the Jewish cleansing rituals saved them from contamination.

 

[lightbearer]

I'll have to be more vigilant.... lol....

We seem to be missing a LOT of the regulars here... all the ones with faith grounded in knowing Jesus.....

You are a funny man.

He did condemn Sodom and Gomorrah but not homosexuality. The inhabitants of these villages were wicked and perverses. They did not take care of the poor, the widows, and the orphans but were driven by their sexual lust for whatever they see. This has nothing to do with homosexuals. God will never condemn an homosexual who honours Him, never, never...

The only way a homosexual (a sinner) can honor GOD is to repent from homosexuality (sin).

 

[lightbearer]

Amazing then how doctrinally rigid and theologically medieval you remain. I depart this place having learnt faith here appears to function like a frontal lobotomy.

Theologically medieval?
Sin is sin and open rampant homosexuality and fornication is a sign to as how far removed we as a society are from GOD.

 

[lightbearer]

you are wrong, there are various degrees of sin. The homosexuality is among the top worst sins, God never passed a worse judgement on anyone as He did on the Homosexuals, when He destroyed them in the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah. more recently He sent AIDS to punish them, so we can see it is a worse sin than most others.

Out of all the STD's Aids is but one warning GOD had sent out to curve the fornicator from their way. It just happened to be prevalent in that community. Fornication is the root that needs to be dug up. Homosexuality is nothing more than a byproduct of it. OPEN Rampant pedophilia and bestiality are next. But I pray that Christ comes before we get that base.

 

[lightbearer]

Can I suggest some further study in the medical literature...it would be on the physiological and biological effects this behaviour has on the body over time.

It ain't pretty.

Please post your findings. Most won't or do not have the fortitude to take the time to research themselves.

 

[lightbearer]

. John said when we sin (not if) .

That is not true!
My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And If any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:
(1Jn 2:1 KJV)

 

[lightbearer]

We not called to preach condemnation apart from the good news of Christ Jesus, Jesse Morrell seems to have mastered doing that well.

We are not called to judge and condemn the world.

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Some are through HIS Spirit. Let GOD be the judge of that also.

 

[lightbearer]

He is very good at avoiding confrontation and still proclaiming GOD's Word. I have been with street preachers who are not.

 

[Papou]

You are a funny man.
The only way a homosexual (a sinner) can honor GOD is to repent from homosexuality (sin).

You know I saw once an homosexual who renounced to his life just to take care of his dying sister. It completely changes my perceptions of homosexual since then.

 

[garee]

Like any sin the gospel can change a person . So its not that they can't love deeply, but have no way to be fruitful and multiply according to the commandment.

And it came to pass, when he had made an end of speaking unto Saul, that the soul of Jonathan was knit with the soul of David, and Jonathan loved him as his own soul.And Saul took him that day, and would let him go no more home to his father's house.
Then Jonathan and David "made a covenant", because he loved him as his own soul.I Samauel 18:1-3

Not a marriage covenant. The meaning of the word marriage has been officially removed by the last administration . What's next on the chopping block, pedophile rights turned into parades ?

It like some one said .The only thing we seem to forget about history is that it repeats itself because natural man of his own volition cannot change.

The moral temperature of today reflects the temperature when the Son of man was here. Moral decline is that which leads men to take away laws. But when there are no laws there is no trespassing.

We still have the privilege to pray.

 

[garee]

That is not true!
My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And If any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:
(1Jn 2:1 KJV)

I think its when. If any man says he does not sin and continue to fall short of the glory of God..... they make God out to be the liar. The other alternative. No limbo in between .The advocate takes away the eternal wage of sin. Violate the least be found guilty of the whole wage

James 2:10 For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.

 

[Papou]

Like any sin the gospel can change a person . So its not that they can't love deeply, but have no way to be fruitful and multiply according to the commandment.

And it came to pass, when he had made an end of speaking unto Saul, that the soul of Jonathan was knit with the soul of David, and Jonathan loved him as his own soul.And Saul took him that day, and would let him go no more home to his father's house.
Then Jonathan and David "made a covenant", because he loved him as his own soul.I Samauel 18:1-3

Not a marriage covenant. The meaning of the word marriage has been officially removed by the last administration . What's next on the chopping block, pedophile rights turned into parades ?

It like some one said .The only thing we seem to forget about history is that it repeats itself because natural man of his own volition cannot change.

The moral temperature of today reflects the temperature when the Son of man was here. Moral decline is that which leads men to take away laws. But when there are no laws there is no trespassing.

We still have the privilege to pray.

The fruit of the Spirit is love. Whoever love his neighbour is from God. Homosexual or not.