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Re: Should "Sabbath keepers" discuss/debate keeping Sabbath online on the Sabbath?
I agree, He kept it according to how God intended it to be kept (doing His Will (love)). If Jesus kept the Sabbath, and He is Lord of Sabbath, then the way He kept the Sabbath is how we all are to keep it....thanks
I agree, He kept it according to how God intended it to be kept (doing His Will (love)). If Jesus kept the Sabbath, and He is Lord of Sabbath, then the way He kept the Sabbath is how we all are to keep it....thanks
Re: Should "Sabbath keepers" discuss/debate keeping Sabbath online on the Sabbath?
I don't need to twist words when your implication is left open for interpretation. By this statement you imply that Christ should have kept it by how its found in the Torah and completely nullify the example he left.
Your statement really should have been, " It's the delusion that some have in thinking they are KEEPING the Sabbath when they are not as prescribed by Christ example."
I don't need to twist words when your implication is left open for interpretation. By this statement you imply that Christ should have kept it by how its found in the Torah and completely nullify the example he left.
Your statement really should have been, " It's the delusion that some have in thinking they are KEEPING the Sabbath when they are not as prescribed by Christ example."
P
Re: Should "Sabbath keepers" discuss/debate keeping Sabbath online on the Sabbath?
Actually that isn't entirely correct. We are saved by His blood being shed on the cross. His blood which is the perfect atonement, the redemptive act that literally paid for our sins so that we can enter heaven. His perfect adherence to the law is how we are able to not keep it. He fulfilled it so that our obedience to it is not necessary or profitable.
Actually that isn't entirely correct. We are saved by His blood being shed on the cross. His blood which is the perfect atonement, the redemptive act that literally paid for our sins so that we can enter heaven. His perfect adherence to the law is how we are able to not keep it. He fulfilled it so that our obedience to it is not necessary or profitable.
J
Re: Should "Sabbath keepers" discuss/debate keeping Sabbath online on the Sabbath?
Galatians 4:9-11 But now, after that ye have known God, or rather are known of God, how turn ye again to the weak and beggarly elements, whereunto ye desire again to be in bondage? Ye observe days, and months, and times, and years. I am afraid of you, lest I have bestowed upon you labour in vain.
Romans 14:5 One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind.
Colossians 2:16-17 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days: which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.
Galatians 2:4-5 And that because of false brethren unawares brought in, who came in privily to spy out our liberty which we have in Christ Jesus, that they might bring us into bondage: to whom we gave place by subjection, no, not for an hour; that the truth of the gospel might continue with you.
Matthew 22:37-40 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. This is the first and great commandment. And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.
Galatians 5:13-14 For, brethren, ye have been called unto liberty; only use not liberty for an occasion to the flesh, but by love serve one another. For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
1 John 3:23 And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment.
Galatians 4:9-11 But now, after that ye have known God, or rather are known of God, how turn ye again to the weak and beggarly elements, whereunto ye desire again to be in bondage? Ye observe days, and months, and times, and years. I am afraid of you, lest I have bestowed upon you labour in vain.
Romans 14:5 One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind.
Colossians 2:16-17 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days: which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.
Galatians 2:4-5 And that because of false brethren unawares brought in, who came in privily to spy out our liberty which we have in Christ Jesus, that they might bring us into bondage: to whom we gave place by subjection, no, not for an hour; that the truth of the gospel might continue with you.
Matthew 22:37-40 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. This is the first and great commandment. And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.
Galatians 5:13-14 For, brethren, ye have been called unto liberty; only use not liberty for an occasion to the flesh, but by love serve one another. For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
1 John 3:23 And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment.
Re: Should "Sabbath keepers" discuss/debate keeping Sabbath online on the Sabbath?
Yes, there are a couple, or at least there were. The last 2 posts are by people no longer around, and the 1st post relates Saturday Sabbath to Sunday Sabbath, not general worship.
But those who are actively involved in these discussions believe that (not to my knowledge anyway)
Yes, there are a couple, or at least there were. The last 2 posts are by people no longer around, and the 1st post relates Saturday Sabbath to Sunday Sabbath, not general worship.
But those who are actively involved in these discussions believe that (not to my knowledge anyway)
Re: Should "Sabbath keepers" discuss/debate keeping Sabbath online on the Sabbath?
I suppose you can quibble about the many facets...here is what I had in mind...
For as by the one man's disobedience the many were made sinners, so by the one man's obedience the many will be made righteous.
(Rom 5:19)
I suppose you can quibble about the many facets...here is what I had in mind...
For as by the one man's disobedience the many were made sinners, so by the one man's obedience the many will be made righteous.
(Rom 5:19)
P
Re: Should "Sabbath keepers" discuss/debate keeping Sabbath online on the Sabbath?
It's not quibbling. Simply stating a fact. Burnt offerings are also known as sin offerings. That is what Christ did on the cross. Our perfect sacrificial lamb so that we wouldn't have to. That is the point in time that our need for offerings ceased. The point in time Daniel spoke of in 12:11.
It's not quibbling. Simply stating a fact. Burnt offerings are also known as sin offerings. That is what Christ did on the cross. Our perfect sacrificial lamb so that we wouldn't have to. That is the point in time that our need for offerings ceased. The point in time Daniel spoke of in 12:11.
J
Re: Should "Sabbath keepers" discuss/debate keeping Sabbath online on the Sabbath?
I'm not going to mention exact user names, but some of it is pure trolling or devious trolling, tares. When you find somebody endlessly repeating something divisive, a Johnny-one-note, and lacking any theological depth or understanding to account for themselves, ignoring clear scripture that proves them wrong, it's usually a person looking for attention, or a deceiver. Pushing bondage is in violation of Christian teaching, period. I've posted the verses proving this, many times, have seen others, also, to be roundly ignored.
I'm not going to mention exact user names, but some of it is pure trolling or devious trolling, tares. When you find somebody endlessly repeating something divisive, a Johnny-one-note, and lacking any theological depth or understanding to account for themselves, ignoring clear scripture that proves them wrong, it's usually a person looking for attention, or a deceiver. Pushing bondage is in violation of Christian teaching, period. I've posted the verses proving this, many times, have seen others, also, to be roundly ignored.
Re: Should "Sabbath keepers" discuss/debate keeping Sabbath online on the Sabbath?
That is a pretty loose interpretation.
Are you saying that your server at Chili's is your slave and is under your ownership and direction?
Because that is what that passage is referring to, not my server at Applebee's.
That is a pretty loose interpretation.
Are you saying that your server at Chili's is your slave and is under your ownership and direction?
Because that is what that passage is referring to, not my server at Applebee's.
J
Re: Should "Sabbath keepers" discuss/debate keeping Sabbath online on the Sabbath?
Galatians 4:9-11 But now, after that ye have known God, or rather are known of God, how turn ye again to the weak and beggarly elements, whereunto ye desire again to be in bondage? Ye observe days, and months, and times, and years. I am afraid of you, lest I have bestowed upon you labour in vain.
Galatians 2:4-5 And that because of false brethren unawares brought in, who came in privily to spy out our liberty which we have in Christ Jesus, that they might bring us into bondage: to whom we gave place by subjection, no, not for an hour; that the truth of the gospel might continue with you.
Galatians 4:9-11 But now, after that ye have known God, or rather are known of God, how turn ye again to the weak and beggarly elements, whereunto ye desire again to be in bondage? Ye observe days, and months, and times, and years. I am afraid of you, lest I have bestowed upon you labour in vain.
Galatians 2:4-5 And that because of false brethren unawares brought in, who came in privily to spy out our liberty which we have in Christ Jesus, that they might bring us into bondage: to whom we gave place by subjection, no, not for an hour; that the truth of the gospel might continue with you.
Re: Should "Sabbath keepers" discuss/debate keeping Sabbath online on the Sabbath?
What was wrong with Rom 5:19 in relation to Christ's obedience and His saving us? That was my original post you 'corrected'.
For as by the one man's disobedience the many were made sinners, so by the one man's obedience the many will be made righteous.
(Rom 5:19)
What was wrong with Rom 5:19 in relation to Christ's obedience and His saving us? That was my original post you 'corrected'.
For as by the one man's disobedience the many were made sinners, so by the one man's obedience the many will be made righteous.
(Rom 5:19)
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