Should We Still Keep the Feasts

[Kerry]

Keeping feast only brings one thing and that is works of the flesh. I meant the feast point to the cross, so why keep a feast when you can have the cross. It makes no since like ordering a double cheeseburger and a diet coke it makes no since.

On the other hand, by placing faith in the work of the cross, then Holy Spirit enters and causes you to keep God's morality. Not of your own ability but by the Spirit. The law lay's out God's morality. So the only way to keep law is by faith in the cross.

The law was given to define sin and gives no recompense for breaking it. The cross forgives and provides the Holy Spirit to keep it or close to it. I meant we cannot sacrifice lambs on the brazen altar can we. Jesus is our ultimate sacrifice.

By faith in His works and by the power of the Holy Spirit our works become His works. Paul said, it is no longer I that live but Christ through me. This is the Holy Spirit working through a man that has yielded himself to The Spirit by the means of the cross.

That's the man I hope to be.

 

[RedTent]

Okay - so then by her "righteous judgment" she can judge that I do not believe in learning and gaining knowledge from the OT when all along I have stated just the opposite? That is what you call "righteous judgement"? And this comment which she hasn't even addressed: "And the real cincher is this idea that you can have faith in the Lord and His words and disregard thar God gave a special blessing on one day out of seven with special instructions to us for that day. Saying they are so pure and wonderful as Christians that they treat every day as that special day so are exempt from the word."
The above comment was made because I said that some people work split shifts and can not take one day as in a specific day to set aside but they set aside a day that they cease from work and can rest and I believe God honors that because he knows the intents of the heart.

Who art thou that judgest another man's servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth. Yea, he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand. One man esteems one day above another: another esteems every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind. He that regards the day, regards it unto the Lord; and he that regards not the day, to the Lord he doth not regard it. He that eateth, eateth to the Lord, for he giveth God thanks; and he that eateth not, to the Lord he eateth not, and giveth God thanks. Romans 14:4-6

My fruit - how do you know my fruit? You only know my by my posts in this forum and I will dare to say that I have endeavored to display love, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, meekness temperance and joy towards by brothers and sisters in Christ which is more than some can say by their statements towards others.

I most certainly did not judge you as a person, and working split shifts had nothing to do with what I think you are reporting wrong about the Lord's scripture.

I don't think posts about scripture should be taken personally. I have a dear friend who is a Mormon, and I think she has a completely wrong view of scripture. She thinks I am wrong. We do not hide that from each other, but we share wonderful times together, and we share love for each other. She accuses my church of not walking the Christian walk well enough, and I think the book of Mormons is completely false. We listen to each other, neither of us has changed our minds about scripture nor has it caused us to have a blame game between us.

 

[just-me]

If post were read - really read - then maybe there would be more understanding in what a person is saying.

I do not bring gifts to an altar . . . and my responses to her have been straightforward - she chose not to respond. I am done ranting . . . lol

Bringing your gift to the altar is now spiritual in this New Covenant. It simply is praying with sincerity on the direction you need to go, and how God wants you to serve Him. Reconcile first and then offer yourself for the service of Christ.

I am not the only one on here that have explained that they have respect for the OT and use it to further their learning and understanding - It's just not to the point that you and many others do. So we are different in that but we are not different in our love for God and his Son, Jesus Christ and in that we should use words that are gentle and peaceful and still get our point across.

We can all learn from each other if people would just stop arguing and rehashing the same ole things over and over.

Ya know - I can blame my whole life on something or somebody but in all actuality I have no one to blame but myself so if my actions or my words destroy or hurt my brother or sister in Christ then that is on me and me alone - we should think before we speak [post] knowing that there is power in our words to either build up or destroy. Regardless of our differences in our understanding of God's scripture there is a way to discuss without being derogatory to one another.

I am done ranting . . . lol

It is good to offload and find another that cares. Your thoughts are appreciated and respected on this end. I have learned more of your heart because you are truthful and sincere when you write. I didn't used to think that months ago, but because you are sincere you have given me the capability to see and appreciate you. Thanks. It is a blessing to talk in depth with you. Be wise as serpents and gentle as doves. Did you know that "Dove" and "Jonah" are the same Hebrew word? Cool ha?

 

[just-me]

I most certainly did not judge you as a person, and working split shifts had nothing to do with what I think you are reporting wrong about the Lord's scripture.

I don't think posts about scripture should be taken personally. I have a dear friend who is a Mormon, and I think she has a completely wrong view of scripture. She thinks I am wrong. We do not hide that from each other, but we share wonderful times together, and we share love for each other. She accuses my church of not walking the Christian walk well enough, and I think the book of Mormons is completely false. We listen to each other, neither of us has changed our minds about scripture nor has it caused us to have a blame game between us.

I was involved in this post so you know what I said. I do hope there can be reconciliation. I am not involved at this point unless I am asked
see this post

 

[WomanLovesTX]

He was blameless under the law and you are not.

Php 3:1 Finally, my brethren, rejoice in the Lord. To write the same things to you, to me indeed is not grievous, but for you it is safe.
Php 3:2 Beware of dogs, beware of evil workers, beware of the concision.
Php 3:3 For we are the circumcision, which worship God in the spirit, and rejoice in Christ Jesus, and have no confidence in the flesh.
Php 3:4 Though I might also have confidence in the flesh. If any other man thinketh that he hath whereof he might trust in the flesh, I more:
Php 3:5 Circumcised the eighth day, of the stock of Israel, of the tribe of Benjamin, an Hebrew of the Hebrews; as touching the law, a Pharisee;
Php 3:6 Concerning zeal, persecuting the church; touching the righteousness which is in the law, blameless.
Php 3:7 But what things were gain to me, those I counted loss for Christ.
Php 3:8 Yea doubtless, and I count all things but loss for the excellency of the knowledge of Christ Jesus my Lord: for whom I have suffered the loss of all things, and do count them but dung, that I may win Christ,
Php 3:9 And be found in him, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by faith:
Php 3:10 That I may know him, and the power of his resurrection, and the fellowship of his sufferings, being made conformable unto his death;
Php 3:11 If by any means I might attain unto the resurrection of the dead.
Php 3:12 Not as though I had already attained, either were already perfect: but I follow after, if that I may apprehend that for which also I am apprehended of Christ Jesus.
Php 3:13 Brethren, I count not myself to have apprehended: but this one thing I do, forgetting those things which are behind, and reaching forth unto those things which are before,
Php 3:14 I press toward the mark for the prize of the high calling of God in Christ Jesus.
Php 3:15 Let us therefore, as many as be perfect, be thus minded: and if in any thing ye be otherwise minded, God shall reveal even this unto you.
Php 3:16 Nevertheless, whereto we have already attained, let us walk by the same rule, let us mind the same thing.
Php 3:17 Brethren, be followers together of me, and mark them which walk so as ye have us for an ensample.
Php 3:18 (For many walk, of whom I have told you often, and now tell you even weeping, that they are the enemies of the cross of Christ:
Php 3:19 Whose end is destruction, whose God is their belly, and whose glory is in their shame, who mind earthly things.)
Php 3:20 For our conversation is in heaven; from whence also we look for the Saviour, the Lord Jesus Christ:
Php 3:21 Who shall change our vile body, that it may be fashioned like unto his glorious body, according to the working whereby he is able even to subdue all things unto himself.

 

[just-me]

Keeping feast only brings one thing and that is works of the flesh. I meant the feast point to the cross, so why keep a feast when you can have the cross. It makes no since like ordering a double cheeseburger and a diet coke it makes no since.

On the other hand, by placing faith in the work of the cross, then Holy Spirit enters and causes you to keep God's morality. Not of your own ability but by the Spirit. The law lay's out God's morality. So the only way to keep law is by faith in the cross.

The law was given to define sin and gives no recompense for breaking it. The cross forgives and provides the Holy Spirit to keep it or close to it. I meant we cannot sacrifice lambs on the brazen altar can we. Jesus is our ultimate sacrifice.

By faith in His works and by the power of the Holy Spirit our works become His works. Paul said, it is no longer I that live but Christ through me. This is the Holy Spirit working through a man that has yielded himself to The Spirit by the means of the cross.

That's the man I hope to be.

When I read the Bible, particularly in the Old Testament, I see that God ordained festivals, or feasts. They have always been quite confusing to me for several reasons because of different months, a calendar that is not Gregorian, such as ours, and the mentioning of new moons, to point out just a few differences from our culture today. We can go to the internet and find several write-ups about these feasts, but as I searched these sites, I was never able to identify anything more than ritual descriptions, for the most part. I felt it necessary to write a simplified version containing the spiritual aspects of the three God ordained feasts rather than ritualistic celebrations according to the Jewish calendar of today, introducing the relationships between the seventh month of Tishri and the first month of Nisan. The first month of this calendar is also known as “Abib.” It starts during our yearly cycle around springtime, somewhere within March and April according to the calendar we subscribe to. To prove this first month as “Abib”, we begin by reading these words in Exodus 12:1-2, Exodus 13:3-4, and Deuteronomy 16:1. “And the LORD spake unto Moses and Aaron in the land of Egypt, saying, This month shall be unto you the beginning of months: it shall be the first month of the year to you. And Moses said unto the people, Remember this day, in which ye came out from Egypt, out of the house of bondage; for by strength of hand the LORD brought you out from this place: there shall no leavened bread be eaten. This day came ye out in the month “Abib.” Observe the month of “Abib,” and keep the passover unto the LORD thy God: for in the month of “Abib” the LORD thy God brought thee forth out of Egypt by night.” This is the forshadowing of salvation through Christ. Jesus came into Jerusalem on the same day the lamb was secured for Passover. Jesus was crucified on the same day the lamb was killed. Coming out of Egypt is the same as being saved from sin.

 

[Kerry]

Php 3:1 Finally, my brethren, rejoice in the Lord. To write the same things to you, to me indeed is not grievous, but for you it is safe.
Php 3:2 Beware of dogs, beware of evil workers, beware of the concision.
Php 3:3 For we are the circumcision, which worship God in the spirit, and rejoice in Christ Jesus, and have no confidence in the flesh.
Php 3:4 Though I might also have confidence in the flesh. If any other man thinketh that he hath whereof he might trust in the flesh, I more:
Php 3:5 Circumcised the eighth day, of the stock of Israel, of the tribe of Benjamin, an Hebrew of the Hebrews; as touching the law, a Pharisee;
Php 3:6 Concerning zeal, persecuting the church; touching the righteousness which is in the law, blameless.
Php 3:7 But what things were gain to me, those I counted loss for Christ.
Php 3:8 Yea doubtless, and I count all things but loss for the excellency of the knowledge of Christ Jesus my Lord: for whom I have suffered the loss of all things, and do count them but dung, that I may win Christ,
Php 3:9 And be found in him, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by faith:
Php 3:10 That I may know him, and the power of his resurrection, and the fellowship of his sufferings, being made conformable unto his death;
Php 3:11 If by any means I might attain unto the resurrection of the dead.
Php 3:12 Not as though I had already attained, either were already perfect: but I follow after, if that I may apprehend that for which also I am apprehended of Christ Jesus.
Php 3:13 Brethren, I count not myself to have apprehended: but this one thing I do, forgetting those things which are behind, and reaching forth unto those things which are before,
Php 3:14 I press toward the mark for the prize of the high calling of God in Christ Jesus.
Php 3:15 Let us therefore, as many as be perfect, be thus minded: and if in any thing ye be otherwise minded, God shall reveal even this unto you.
Php 3:16 Nevertheless, whereto we have already attained, let us walk by the same rule, let us mind the same thing.
Php 3:17 Brethren, be followers together of me, and mark them which walk so as ye have us for an ensample.
Php 3:18 (For many walk, of whom I have told you often, and now tell you even weeping, that they are the enemies of the cross of Christ:
Php 3:19 Whose end is destruction, whose God is their belly, and whose glory is in their shame, who mind earthly things.)
Php 3:20 For our conversation is in heaven; from whence also we look for the Saviour, the Lord Jesus Christ:
Php 3:21 Who shall change our vile body, that it may be fashioned like unto his glorious body, according to the working whereby he is able even to subdue all things unto himself.

That is called faith in the cross and not what I do. What I do is guided by my faith in the cross and executed by the Holy Spirit. If I said it once I said it a thousand times "it is not by might, nor by power, but by My Spirit saith The Lord"

 

[just-me]

Beginning with the first month God ordained through Moses in Exodus chapter twelve, we will read of the Passover, and the escape from Egypt in the first month of the year. Starting in Exodus 12:34, we read “And the people took their dough before it was leavened, their kneading troughs being bound up in their clothes upon their shoulders” remembered later by the “Feast of Unleavened Bread.” Then in the beginning of the third month Israel arrived at Mount Sinai as we begin reading in Exodus 19:1 which says: “In the third month, when the children of Israel were gone forth out of the land of Egypt, the same day came they into the wilderness of Sinai.” One can easily compare the death of Christ with the fourteenth of Nisan, and the first Passover on the fifteenth, to the first full day that Jesus was in the tomb. We can also compare Pentecost to the twelfth day of the third month Sivan, and the records written about what happened at Mount Sinai if the twelfth day is actually a Sabbath day. I will go into more detail later in the following chapters.

As we read through the Bible we also see what happened to Israel during the forty years in the wilderness of Sinai. We read about the golden calf, the brass serpent, and the rock giving water, manna, how the shoes and clothes didn’t wear out, and many other true circumstances of how God sustained them. These are stories about how God took care of Israel, even though Aaron, Moses, and all people that came out of Egypt over the age of twenty never made it to the Promised Land. Joshua and Caleb were the only exceptions because of their faith in God. Those two knew that Israel could actually conquer what was seemingly impossible according to human standards.

 

[just-me]

It is of substantial importance to know the meaning of each letter of the pictorial Hebrew alphabet, and what the numbers represent in the Hebrew culture. For example, the first month would relate to the number one meaning “Unity, and New beginnings,” which is quite appropriate. The numbers of weeks, in the “Feast of Weeks” are seven meaning “Resurrection, Spiritual completeness, and the Father’s perfection.” The number of days related to the “Feast of Weeks” were fifty meaning “Holy Spirit; Pentecost,” fourteen meaning “Deliverance and Salvation,” and the number fifteen meaning “rest,” just to mention a few. The third month, when the law was given, relates to the number three meaning “Divine completeness and perfection.” Now that might cause some confusion for those who have labeled the law as something that has failed somehow, causing us to think that the Mosaic Law doesn’t apply for today because of the New Covenant through Christ Jesus. If we believe that God doesn’t make mistakes, and all that He has ever said is true, then we have to come to the conclusion that the law failed because of the carnal mind, not because God made a mistake, or somehow gave Israel information that wasn’t spiritual, holy, just and good. Romans 7:12-14 makes this clear as we read what Paul writes about himself: “Wherefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good. Was then that which is good made death unto me? God forbid. But sin, that it might appear sin, working death in me by that which is good; that sin by the commandment might become exceeding sinful. For we know that the law is spiritual: but I am carnal, sold under sin.” After all, Jesus said to Satan that man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceeds out of the mouth of God. He was quoting the law in Deuteronomy 8:3. That should not be hard to comprehend.

 

[RedTent]

Keeping feast only brings one thing and that is works of the flesh. I meant the feast point to the cross, so why keep a feast when you can have the cross. It makes no since like ordering a double cheeseburger and a diet coke it makes no since.

On the other hand, by placing faith in the work of the cross, then Holy Spirit enters and causes you to keep God's morality. Not of your own ability but by the Spirit. The law lay's out God's morality. So the only way to keep law is by faith in the cross.

The law was given to define sin and gives no recompense for breaking it. The cross forgives and provides the Holy Spirit to keep it or close to it. I meant we cannot sacrifice lambs on the brazen altar can we. Jesus is our ultimate sacrifice.

By faith in His works and by the power of the Holy Spirit our works become His works. Paul said, it is no longer I that live but Christ through me. This is the Holy Spirit working through a man that has yielded himself to The Spirit by the means of the cross.

That's the man I hope to be.

If you have the cross and you have faith in Christ, you would follow Christ with how you act. Following Christ is not following the flesh. The flesh opposes God. Your teaching to do nothing of the law, to never keep a feasts is following the flesh.

If you follow the Holy Spirit within you, it would lead you to works and to listening to the word. ``If you had faith in the cross and in Jesus, you would listen to Him you could never say that the law Christ leads us to is all wrong. Then when you obeyed, even to follow Christ in honoring the feasts, you wouldn't have this worry in your mind about what it was that led you to how you should live. You would have surrendered to Christ who said He took nothing from the Father and He patterned a life for us that kept the feasts.

 

[just-me]

By tradition, there is a Hebrew civil calendar that begins the New Year right after the fall harvest, and some even suggest that Jesus was born during that time. I find no Biblical proof that the first month is any different than the original stated in Exodus chapter 12. Esther 3:7a “In the first month, that is, the month Nisan,” or in Exodus 13:3-4 where “Moses said unto the people, Remember this day, in which ye came out from Egypt, out of the house of bondage; for by strength of hand the LORD brought you out from this place: there shall no leavened bread be eaten. This day came ye out in the month Abib.”

 

[Kerry]

If you have the cross and you have faith in Christ, you would follow Christ with how you act. Following Christ is not following the flesh. The flesh opposes God. Your teaching to do nothing of the law, to never keep a feasts is following the flesh.

If you follow the Holy Spirit within you, it would lead you to works and to listening to the word. ``If you had faith in the cross and in Jesus, you would listen to Him you could never say that the law Christ leads us to is all wrong. Then when you obeyed, even to follow Christ in honoring the feasts, you wouldn't have this worry in your mind about what it was that led you to how you should live. You would have surrendered to Christ who said He took nothing from the Father and He patterned a life for us that kept the feasts.

Close, but tell me why I should keep Passover? when I have the cross? which is the fulfillment of Passover?

 

[RedTent]

Close, but tell me why I should keep Passover? when I have the cross? which is the fulfillment of Passover?

Do you keep Easter? How about Christmas. These are two holidays that scripture does not even mention.

Here is what Fordham University has to say about the Easter you keep. Internet History Sourcebooks Project

There is much scripture about keeping the feasts, Christ kept them and they are also mentioned in other scriptures. Christ spoke of listening to Moses. Christ replaced lots, and there are scriptures about everything Christ replaced. There are no scriptures saying that Christ replaced the feasts.

 

[just-me]

Close, but tell me why I should keep Passover? when I have the cross? which is the fulfillment of Passover?

If I may, the reason is for us to see a more clear picture of God's omnipotence, recognized by us, and remembered. Passover is not a feast. The feast that begins with Passover is a commemoration of leaving the bonds of a sinful world and it lasts for a week bringing us (Israel) to the living water at the end. (Exodus 15:22-25) Without going into detail the blood smeared on the door-posts at Passover is written like a reverse small "n" in Hebrew. It represents the sign of "crossticks" erected as a memorial. By remembering those things with communion, we see that Jesus was the plan all along. Remember when Jesus questioned Nicodemus as to why he didn't know about being born again?

John 3:5-10
5 Jesus answered , Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.
7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.
8 The wind bloweth where it listeth , and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh , and whither it goeth : so is every one that is born of the Spirit.
9 Nicodemus answered and said unto him, How can these things be ?
10 Jesus answered and said unto him, Art thou a master of Israel, and knowest not these things?

 

[Laodicea]

[h=1] Hebrews 9:9-11 (KJV)
[/h] [SUP]9 [/SUP]Which was a figure for the time then present, in which were offered both gifts and sacrifices, that could not make him that did the service perfect, as pertaining to the conscience;

[SUP]10 [/SUP]Which stood only in meats and drinks, and divers washings, and carnal ordinances, imposed on them until the time of reformation.

[SUP]11 [/SUP]But Christ being come an high priest of good things to come, by a greater and more perfect tabernacle, not made with hands, that is to say, not of this building;

The earthly sanctuary and services were figures of the true. Notice verse 10 says until the time of reformation then verse 11 talks about the sanctuary in heaven. So when is this? After Jesus ascended to heaven he began the work as our high priest.

When Jesus died the Vail of the temple was torn in two showing the earthly sanctuary and services were finished.

*Hebrews 8:5 KJV*
Who serve unto the example and shadow of heavenly things, as Moses was admonished of God when he was about to make the tabernacle: for, See, saith he, that thou make all things according to the pattern shewed to thee in the mount.


Just to add to my earlier post this shows the earthly sanctuary and services were a shadow of the heavenly. The feasts were centered on the sanctuary. So which is more important the shadow or the heavenly?

 

[Kerry]

If I may, the reason is for us to see a more clear picture of God's omnipotence, recognized by us, and remembered. Passover is not a feast. The feast that begins with Passover is a commemoration of leaving the bonds of a sinful world and it lasts for a week bringing us (Israel) to the living water at the end. (Exodus 15:22-25) Without going into detail the blood smeared on the door-posts at Passover is written like a reverse small "n" in Hebrew. It represents the sign of "crossticks" erected as a memorial. By remembering those things with communion, we see that Jesus was the plan all along. Remember when Jesus questioned Nicodemus as to why he didn't know about being born again?

John 3:5-10
5 Jesus answered , Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.
7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.
8 The wind bloweth where it listeth , and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh , and whither it goeth : so is every one that is born of the Spirit.
9 Nicodemus answered and said unto him, How can these things be ?
10 Jesus answered and said unto him, Art thou a master of Israel, and knowest not these things?

No the reason is and old trick of Satan to take your eyes off the work of the cross and place it in your own works.

 

[royalscot]

The thing is that people have limited to two categories, believers and unbelievers.

two different time, and covenants. when religion stops at the cross, jesus was back in heaven when a now a day believer, first believed. in a new covenant.

We must read the parable of the sower and the seed to realize there are more than just two groups on how the word is heard and accepted. Then plus our Lord Jesus tells us that those who deny Him will also end up in punishment of hell fire, and He goes to explain how one denies Him and it is not just unbelief in Him.

jesus speaking to a jewish people, in the old covenant


Both groups believe in Him to be their Lord as Matthew 25:31-46 show in verses 37 and 44;

37) Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink?

[SUP]44) [/SUP]Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee?


saved by grace a gift, not by religions answer to teach 10 commandments to believers who already believe and walk with faith to a saviour.


Lord Jesus makes a point in this passage in Matthew 25:31-46 even if you believe Him to be your Lord, but deny others in need then you deny Him. Which means He is not truly your Lord, if He was you would live in love, forgiveness, and have a helping nature about you.

point away, jesus was talking to a jewish people. and paul was talking to gentiles about a saviour you already believe in.

no condemnation etc.
When you take ee how in Titus that he confirms this;

Titus 1:16
They profess that they know God; but in works they deny Him, being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate.

Believing in Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior means to believe and follow His teachings as well.

then when did law save you, as he was talking to people under a new covenant.

 

[just-me]

Hebrews 9:9-11 (KJV)
[SUP]9 [/SUP]Which was a figure for the time then present, in which were offered both gifts and sacrifices, that could not make him that did the service perfect, as pertaining to the conscience;

[SUP]10 [/SUP]Which stood only in meats and drinks, and divers washings, and carnal ordinances, imposed on them until the time of reformation.

[SUP]11 [/SUP]But Christ being come an high priest of good things to come, by a greater and more perfect tabernacle, not made with hands, that is to say, not of this building;

The earthly sanctuary and services were figures of the true. Notice verse 10 says until the time of reformation then verse 11 talks about the sanctuary in heaven. So when is this? After Jesus ascended to heaven he began the work as our high priest.

When Jesus died the Vail of the temple was torn in two showing the earthly sanctuary and services were finished.

*Hebrews 8:5 KJV*
Who serve unto the example and shadow of heavenly things, as Moses was admonished of God when he was about to make the tabernacle: for, See, saith he, that thou make all things according to the pattern shewed to thee in the mount.

Just to add to my earlier post this shows the earthly sanctuary and services were a shadow of the heavenly. The feasts were centered on the sanctuary. So which is more important the shadow or the heavenly?

Oh ya I forgot for the moment. SDA don't believe in a millennial reign of Jesus Christ on earth. Am I correct about that? Do you believe the prophecies of Ellen White as total truth? Quoting more of Hebrews to add with your quote.

For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness, and their sins and their iniquities will I remember no more. In that he saith , A new covenant, he hath made the first old . Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away. Then verily the first covenant had also ordinances of divine service, and a worldly sanctuary. (Hebrews 8:12-13 and Hebrews 9:1)

The Bible says the 2 feasts were observed long before the worldly sanctuary was built as recorded in Leviticus. The 3[SUP]rd[/SUP] feast (tabernacles) is recorded in Leviticus after God's dwelling place (His tabernacle) was erected.

Exodus 12:7=feast of unleavened bread
Exodus 34:22=feast of weeks
Exodus 40:17 The building of the first tabernacle/temple/sanctuary (God's dwelling place)
Leviticus 23:34 and 43=feast of tabernacles (the congregation's dwelling places, remembering their 40 year trek to the promised land and the sustenance of God along with the first Sabbath and the manna)

Remember, there is a tabernacle for God and a tabernacle for man. The feast of tabernacles revolves around man's dwelling place with our Lord in the center. Tell me again where you think the temple is right now. Is God's dwelling place in heaven separated from ours on earth? If the feasts are centered around the temple and we are the temple I suppose the feasts are centered around us. Right?

Hebrews 11:8-9
8 By faith Abraham, when he was called to go out into a place which he should after receive for an inheritance, obeyed ; and he went out , not knowing whither he went .
9 By faith he sojourned in the land of promise, as in a strange country, dwelling in tabernacles with Isaac and Jacob, the heirs with him of the same promise:

John 2:19-21
19 Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up .
20 Then said the Jews, Forty and six years was this temple in building , and wilt thou rear it up in three days?
21 But he spake of the temple of his body.

1 Corinthians 6:9 What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?

Revelation 3:12 Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name.

This scripture in Revelation (speaking to the church at Philadelphia) is confirmed by the following scripture in Zechariah.

Zechariah 14:16-19
16 And it shall come to pass, that every one that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall even go up from year to year to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, and to keep the feast of tabernacles.
17 And it shall be, that whoso will not come up of all the families of the earth unto Jerusalem to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, even upon them shall be no rain.
18 And if the family of Egypt go not up , and come not, that have no rain; there shall be the plague, wherewith the LORD will smite the heathen that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles.
19 This shall be the punishment of Egypt, and the punishment of all nations that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles.

 

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No the reason is and old trick of Satan to take your eyes off the work of the cross and place it in your own works.

You really think that remembering Passover is neglecting the cross rather then confirming the cross?

 

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If I may, the reason is for us to see a more clear picture of God's omnipotence, recognized by us, and remembered. Passover is not a feast. The feast that begins with Passover is a commemoration of leaving the bonds of a sinful world and it lasts for a week bringing us (Israel) to the living water at the end. (Exodus 15:22-25) Without going into detail the blood smeared on the door-posts at Passover is written like a reverse small "n" in Hebrew. It represents the sign of "crossticks" erected as a memorial. By remembering those things with communion, we see that Jesus was the plan all along. Remember when Jesus questioned Nicodemus as to why he didn't know about being born again?

John 3:5-10
5 Jesus answered , Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.
7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.
8 The wind bloweth where it listeth , and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh , and whither it goeth : so is every one that is born of the Spirit.
9 Nicodemus answered and said unto him, How can these things be ?
10 Jesus answered and said unto him, Art thou a master of Israel, and knowest not these things?

No the reason is and old trick of Satan to take your eyes off the work of the cross and place it in your own works.

Do you really think that remembering Passover is neglecting the cross rather than confirming the cross? One must be very careful when mentioning Satan's works with those who observe what God has ordained whether in the Old Covenant or the New Covenant. Observing is with the heart, mind, and soul outside of physical actions. Faith comes first, actions follow. The works of the flesh are not of faith. Don't mix it up, for God is not the author of confusion. Does not Passover Lamb confirm the truth of the cross?