Should women be silent in church and wear head coverings?

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Should women be silent in church and wear head coverings?

  • Yes

    Votes: 7 22.6%
  • No

    Votes: 19 61.3%
  • If they have long hair, they can skip the head covering.

    Votes: 5 16.1%

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NoNameMcgee

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I have made reference to it :) But I mean Adam's sin causing the fall of all creation.
absolutely

if i read Pharts posts right

that is specifically what brought this verse up in this thread


though adams actions many die



through Jesus many are saved
 

Magenta

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When man and woman are joined in the bonds of holy matrimony and they partake of the sacred act of sexual intercourse, they are said to become one flesh. I wonder if this hearkens back to Eve being drawn out of Adam. Some people think the becoming one flesh has to do with having children, but that would exclude childless couples...
 
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Satan often mixes a bit of truth in with the lie, which goes a long way to deceiving people...
Yes and as time goes by satan hides the lie even more, for he is stuck on that tree not to partake in the tree of life.

A other truth in my opinion is as time goes by, man gets smarter and smarter, knowledge increase and it becomes harder and harder for man to hear or see anything spiritually for they rely on to many other things rather than of God.
 
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The dust of the ground doesn't carry human code. God wrote the DNA code, All of the various eyecolors and hair colors started with the codes in Adam and Eve. God wrote the codes, breathed life into them and set the way for more people to be made from those codes.
Are you talking pre-fall or post-fall?
 

Nehemiah6

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I am more interested in what scripture has to say against women being silent and covered.
It seems that you are more interested in dodging the plain meaning of Scripture than anything else.

The very fact the Scripture teaches that women should be silent and wear head coverings in more than one passage should be sufficient for any Christian desiring to obey Scripture. Since that is the case, it should also be obvious that if a woman has an issue regarding the preaching or teaching in her church, she should bring this to the attention of her husband (or father or brother if unmarried) and let them present it to the elders.
 

trofimus

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All of the various eyecolors and hair colors started with the codes in Adam and Eve. God wrote the codes, breathed life into them and set the way for more people to be made from those codes.
Interesting thing is that, various colors of eyes and hair developed only in Europe. All the rest of the world has just one eye/hair color.

Scientists think its because of mixing of European homo sapiens with neanderthals who lived in northern Europe. These neanderthals are interesting creatures.
I wonder if Bible mentions them by some term/name. But probably not, because Bible was written in the Middle East.
 
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Interesting thing is that, various colors of eyes and hair developed only in Europe. All the rest of the world has just one eye/hair color.

Scientists think its because of mixing of European homo sapiens with neanderthals who lived in northern Europe. These neanderthals are interesting creatures.
I wonder if Bible mentions them by some term/name. But probably not, because Bible was written in the Middle East.
Whaaaat? Whoever gave you that idea?
 

Magenta

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Beauty is in the eye of the beholder...

In the animal kingdom, it is often brawn that determines who gets to mate and add descendants to the gene pool. One could think that then would exclude mates being chosen on the basis of looks, and yet, the strength of an animal's genetic code is reflected in its looks also. I think in terms of dogs and caribou/elk (an odd pairing I know :D) when I say this, especially dogs, for we distinguish breed by looks, which is genetic. Of course mankind has really messed with the gene pool of dogs, and dogs will be dogs LOL. The majestic grandeur of much wildlife is stunningly beautiful to us. Even our own bodies are wonderfully made, and the more we come to understand of them, the less some of us we realize we know. :)

elk.jpg
 

Magenta

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Interesting thing is that, various colors of eyes and hair developed only in Europe. All the rest of the world has just one eye/hair color.

Scientists think its because of mixing of European homo sapiens with neanderthals who lived in northern Europe. These neanderthals are interesting creatures.
I wonder if Bible mentions them by some term/name. But probably not, because Bible was written in the Middle East.
Some people believe that Cain and Able represent the difference between a hunter/gatherer older humanoid and the agrarian peoples of later periods. The more advanced farmer, in other words, dominated and won out over the earlier cave man.
 
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BeyondET

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Interesting thing is that, various colors of eyes and hair developed only in Europe. All the rest of the world has just one eye/hair color.

Scientists think its because of mixing of European homo sapiens with neanderthals who lived in northern Europe. These neanderthals are interesting creatures.
I wonder if Bible mentions them by some term/name. But probably not, because Bible was written in the Middle East.
What is your thoughts on Albonoism I've always wondered about Albonoism, because this happens in humans, animals, plants, and as well as there is a thing called Albono dirt per say aka white dirt. lol
 

trofimus

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I was referring to "All the rest of the world has just one eye/hair color."
so,,, which colour is that? are ALL americans brown- haired and grey eyed ? No green or blue or anything?
Pretty much every other nation have dark color of eyes and hair.

There can be some few genetic exceptions like in Iran, but never so frequent and diverse like in Europe. Small Europe is a huge mixture of colors compared to the rest.

Americans are composed of Europeans and other races. USA exists for about 200 years. But the origin is in Europe. Native Americans were also dark haired etc.
 
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trofimus

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Some people believe that Cain and Able represent the difference between a hunter/gatherer older humanoid and the agrarian peoples of later periods. The more advanced farmer, in other words, dominated and won out over the earlier cave man.
Interesting, I never heard of this.

I heard that sons of God can be neaderthals... and probably some few other tries to explain our history, but not this one... any source I could look at?
 

Magenta

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The Clan of The Cave Bear was also based upon the premise that Neanderthals mixed with Homo sapiens. Jean M. Auel was widely acclaimed for her writing of this six part Earth Children series. Hollywood tried making a movie of the first book, and it was a a huge flop, partly because there was no dialogue :eek: They are very well written, though, and spend a lot of time describing in great detail the probable flora and fauna of thirty thousand years ago, and the (fictional) interactions between early humans.
 

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Some little boy ran away from school. When asked why he ran away he said "because I didn't want to wear a uniform."

Is this really what God wants??

Think of the children!

 
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Some people believe that Cain and Able represent the difference between a hunter/gatherer older humanoid and the agrarian peoples of later periods. The more advanced farmer, in other words, dominated and won out over the earlier cave man.
Obviously, this is dis-proven by Genesis 9....Able did not hunt, he slaughtered animals for sacrifice only....God did not give man animal flesh to eat until after the flood...

Gen 9.3
[SUP]3 [/SUP]Every moving thing that is alive shall be food for you; I give all to you, as I gave the green plant. [SUP]4 [/SUP]Only you shall not eat flesh with its life, that is, its blood.
 

Magenta

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Interesting, I never heard of this.

I heard that sons of God can be neaderthals... and probably some few other tries to explain our history, but not this one... any source I could look at?
There was one person here who got banned who used to be really big on this stuff, associating the different ages of man with each patriarch. I do also remember him from the very first site I used to do apologetics on, which was all taken down in October of 2011... I found the things he said very interesting, but of course he took a lot of flack from a lot of other people, who mocked and derided him for his views, because they were not strictly Biblical. He was really big on posting graphs and stuff, not as out there as our flat earthers. I asked him where he got some of his information from and he told me he had some kind of evolutionary Bible, I do not recall the name of the actual book. I looked through 12 pages of this thread to find him: http://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/119583-tree-good-evil-what-really-12.html His name was cupid here and cupid Dave on the earlier site.
 

trofimus

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There was one person here who got banned who used to be really big on this stuff, associating the different ages of man with each patriarch. I do also remember him from the very first site I used to do apologetics on, which was all taken down in October of 2011... I found the things he said very interesting, but of course he took a lot of flack from a lot of other people, who mocked and derided him for his views, because they were not strictly Biblical. He was really big on posting graphs and stuff, not as out there as our flat earthers. I asked him where he got some of his information from and he told me he had some kind of evolutionary Bible, I do not recall the name of the actual book. I looked through 12 pages of this thread to find him: http://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/119583-tree-good-evil-what-really-12.html His name was cupid here and cupid Dave on the earlier site.
Thanks, I wanted to give you rep for your time, but I cant yet :)

Regarding history, I am just reading this article:
The Sumerian King List still puzzles historians after more than a century of research | Ancient Origins

Long life spans of ancient kings and partriarchs can be somehow linked to neanderthals, too. They are believed to live much longer than modern homo sapiens, thats why they had bigger brains and body constitution.

Who was NEANDERTHAL MAN?

But these are all just guesses.