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following is how I perceive the Lord's prayer (from GotQuestions....there are complicated responses that can be given but I'm referencing GotQuestions because they lay it out in a very easy to follow pattern, backing it all up with scripture
The Lord’s Prayer should be understood as an example, a pattern, of how to pray. It gives us the “ingredients” that should go into prayer. Here is how it breaks down. “Our Father in heaven” is teaching us whom to address our prayers to—the Father. “Hallowed be your name” is telling us to worship God, and to praise Him for who He is.
The phrase “your kingdom come, your will be done on earth as it is in heaven” is a reminder to us that we are to pray for God’s plan in our lives and the world, not our own plan. We are to pray for God’s will to be done, not for our desires.
We are encouraged to ask God for the things we need in “give us today our daily bread.”
“Forgive us our debts, as we also have forgiven our debtors” reminds us to confess our sins to God and to turn from them, and also to forgive others as God has forgiven us. The conclusion of the Lord’s Prayer, “And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from the evil one” is a plea for help in achieving victory over sin and a request for protection from the attacks of the devil.
as Jesus also spoke against vain repetition, it pretty much is a no brainer that He never expected everyone to repeat the prayer He taught His disciples, as a verbatim prayer and they were good to go
however, that DOES seem to be the argument being used by some...which is a red herring IMO
the real problem, seems to be where Jesus says we need to forgive as we have been forgiven
if you disagree with that, you are DEFINITELY going to have a problem with Matthew 6:9-13
seems some think Jesus was just a 'traditonalist'
that's a false gospel
the ONLY reason we can ask for forgiveness IS because we are forgiven because of God's plan for our salvation
the ONLY reason we can extend forgiveness to others, is exactly the same, and reflect's Jesus' words of forgive as we have been forgiven
and please, none of the above means if we die with an 'unforgiven' sin we go to hell
that's not even a reasonable, intelligent argument to entertain
obviously, as Miri has already stated, if we extend horizontal forgiveness, that is relational and an extension of the love of God
The Lord’s Prayer should be understood as an example, a pattern, of how to pray. It gives us the “ingredients” that should go into prayer. Here is how it breaks down. “Our Father in heaven” is teaching us whom to address our prayers to—the Father. “Hallowed be your name” is telling us to worship God, and to praise Him for who He is.
The phrase “your kingdom come, your will be done on earth as it is in heaven” is a reminder to us that we are to pray for God’s plan in our lives and the world, not our own plan. We are to pray for God’s will to be done, not for our desires.
We are encouraged to ask God for the things we need in “give us today our daily bread.”
“Forgive us our debts, as we also have forgiven our debtors” reminds us to confess our sins to God and to turn from them, and also to forgive others as God has forgiven us. The conclusion of the Lord’s Prayer, “And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from the evil one” is a plea for help in achieving victory over sin and a request for protection from the attacks of the devil.
as Jesus also spoke against vain repetition, it pretty much is a no brainer that He never expected everyone to repeat the prayer He taught His disciples, as a verbatim prayer and they were good to go
however, that DOES seem to be the argument being used by some...which is a red herring IMO
the real problem, seems to be where Jesus says we need to forgive as we have been forgiven
if you disagree with that, you are DEFINITELY going to have a problem with Matthew 6:9-13
seems some think Jesus was just a 'traditonalist'
that's a false gospel
the ONLY reason we can ask for forgiveness IS because we are forgiven because of God's plan for our salvation
the ONLY reason we can extend forgiveness to others, is exactly the same, and reflect's Jesus' words of forgive as we have been forgiven
and please, none of the above means if we die with an 'unforgiven' sin we go to hell
that's not even a reasonable, intelligent argument to entertain
obviously, as Miri has already stated, if we extend horizontal forgiveness, that is relational and an extension of the love of God
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