Slain in the Spirit?
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Hi addict there.
Its a sad state of affairs where in the church there are people who just write others off because they struggle with an addiction(s)
Yet they have no desire to come alongside in love to understand why.
Behind every addiction is a cause that causes the effect.
What is the biggest addiction in the world today?
Its sin, whatever one wants to define as to what sin is.
Thruth is believers will struggle with addiction and believers need to realise this.
Those who do let’s not write them off. Come alongside and walk with them.
If they have a desire to be released then God knows that and sees that.
Little steps at a time
Its a sad state of affairs where in the church there are people who just write others off because they struggle with an addiction(s)
Yet they have no desire to come alongside in love to understand why.
Behind every addiction is a cause that causes the effect.
What is the biggest addiction in the world today?
Its sin, whatever one wants to define as to what sin is.
Thruth is believers will struggle with addiction and believers need to realise this.
Those who do let’s not write them off. Come alongside and walk with them.
If they have a desire to be released then God knows that and sees that.
Little steps at a time
So the people who laid hands on her, should they not have told her? Was it my responsibility when I was a child being driven insane by all the durken fighting to tell her? I have no clue if she's even alive anymore, I lost contact with her years ago, but she was still going to church and still an alcoholic the last time we spoke.
These churches give people the idea that their filled with the Holy Spirit while at the same time their being destroyed by sin. That seems like a problem to me.
These churches give people the idea that their filled with the Holy Spirit while at the same time their being destroyed by sin. That seems like a problem to me.
Like me with my gambling addiction every night for 20 years.
My fears woke me up every night at the same time.
I got so tired and got to the stage of asking God to take my life, even considered doing it myself.
Afterall he would look after my wife and 4 young kids.
As you can see neither happened and I have been free of gambling now for 6 years.
Praise God.
I thank him that he knows what he is doing
My fears woke me up every night at the same time.
I got so tired and got to the stage of asking God to take my life, even considered doing it myself.
Afterall he would look after my wife and 4 young kids.
As you can see neither happened and I have been free of gambling now for 6 years.
Praise God.
I thank him that he knows what he is doing
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You were a child for no more than a couple of decades, and much of that time you weren't yet saved. You blame that church. You are the Church! What about you now?
I have been saved for 45 years. My blood family still isn't. I'm not blame "church." I've been letting them know for decades now with no success. (I'm the nut in the family. Go figure.) I've been praying. What other thing can I do?
But I can give you this much. My husband was outs with his family for several years. No one was saved, even him, when they family divided. But he returned because he wasn't the only one saved while he was gone. His older brother was too. Stuff happens to people. Considering you and your aunt have much in common, why not see how she is doing, if she is still doing? You've got quite the testimony for her. Wouldn't that be something?
I have been saved for 45 years. My blood family still isn't. I'm not blame "church." I've been letting them know for decades now with no success. (I'm the nut in the family. Go figure.) I've been praying. What other thing can I do?
But I can give you this much. My husband was outs with his family for several years. No one was saved, even him, when they family divided. But he returned because he wasn't the only one saved while he was gone. His older brother was too. Stuff happens to people. Considering you and your aunt have much in common, why not see how she is doing, if she is still doing? You've got quite the testimony for her. Wouldn't that be something?
The only thing us humans can see is the outside and the fruits. We do not have the ability to see hearts. For years I went to church 2 times on Sunday and every Wednesday night for prayer mtg. On the outside it was all a bunch of so called good fruit., all looked great., we were the perfect family. Respected in our community.
But at home where no one else could see our lives were a mess.
******The fruit of the Spirit is not the fruit of the flesh.*******
Believers need to understand this better. All that glitters is not gold. Only God knows what's inside the hearts of each of us. And each one of us has to decide for ourselves based on how the Lord is dealing with us how we should deal with other people.
It sounds like you had the very unfortunate experience of attending some not good churches when you were young and that has carried over into your adulthood. As a person who was taken to catholic mass as a child I can understand. That experience along with my own disobedience and a couple other factors kept me from accepting Jesus as my Lord until I was 40 years old.
I still sometimes wonder what might have been but then I realize that had I not lived the life I lived (addiction, crime etc) that I would not be as equipped as I am to help others in that life who are still lost learn about God.
I have never been slain in the spirit but I am blessed to have a pretty amazing relationship with God, one where He actively communicates with me a number of different ways. I am finding that as I mature in Christ it does no good to call people fakes or advise them that they are being fooled by a certain church or doctrine. Instead I am learning to let people know about the freedom and peace I have found and am still finding as a result of my coming to know God and His Gospel.
I am still learning that and sometimes, especially here, I fall short when I see people still trapped in bondage to religion. I pray you find a good bible based church and that God heals any past hurts you have associated with Him.
I still sometimes wonder what might have been but then I realize that had I not lived the life I lived (addiction, crime etc) that I would not be as equipped as I am to help others in that life who are still lost learn about God.
I have never been slain in the spirit but I am blessed to have a pretty amazing relationship with God, one where He actively communicates with me a number of different ways. I am finding that as I mature in Christ it does no good to call people fakes or advise them that they are being fooled by a certain church or doctrine. Instead I am learning to let people know about the freedom and peace I have found and am still finding as a result of my coming to know God and His Gospel.
I am still learning that and sometimes, especially here, I fall short when I see people still trapped in bondage to religion. I pray you find a good bible based church and that God heals any past hurts you have associated with Him.
Judging outward appearance means to judge based on looks. An example: that guy had prison tattoos, so he's a sinner.
That would be wrong.
But how do we know that someone is born again? If they obey, Christians sin, but they don't sin like they're a lost sinner.
1 John 2:28-29 And now, dear children, continue in him, so that when he appears we may be confident and unashamed before Him at His coming.
If you know that he is rightieous, you know that everyone who does what is right has been born of him.
Of course it would be a poor judgment to only look at how someone behaves in church, like when ordaining second or elders, their family and home life must be looked at.
That would be wrong.
But how do we know that someone is born again? If they obey, Christians sin, but they don't sin like they're a lost sinner.
1 John 2:28-29 And now, dear children, continue in him, so that when he appears we may be confident and unashamed before Him at His coming.
If you know that he is rightieous, you know that everyone who does what is right has been born of him.
Of course it would be a poor judgment to only look at how someone behaves in church, like when ordaining second or elders, their family and home life must be looked at.
Any judgement you make with respect to someone spiritually can only be an outward judgement.
You have absolutely no clue what may actually be going on between a person and God irrespective of their looks or their behaviour.
Based on the fact that you account yourself righteous before God and not your Aunt according to the criteria that you yourself wrote leads me to question, in turn, not only your judgment, but your theology.
You have absolutely no clue what may actually be going on between a person and God irrespective of their looks or their behaviour.
Based on the fact that you account yourself righteous before God and not your Aunt according to the criteria that you yourself wrote leads me to question, in turn, not only your judgment, but your theology.