Not why I asked the question though. I'll rephrase.
Is drunkenness rightieous? No.
Back to my other question.
If someone is touched by The Holy Spirit in such a way that they are knocked down to the ground, should that not make a dramatic change in their sinful behavior? Something big happened because of God, yet God doesn't make the sinful desire to drink disappear?
God wants us to obey, if we are filled with His spirit we do His will simply as an outcome.
Since a person is born again and their soul is saved and they know they have Jesus and they have been sealed with the Holy Spirit of Promise....,, shouldn't that change their lives too? Of course!! but we have this treasure in earthen vessels. And the Lord knows our physical frame that we are but dust. Yet the Holy Spirit is always with us despite our many stupid actions to the contrary. He has patience to teach us, lead us and and conform us and comfort us all through the process.
That is why we should not be looking at people according to the flesh. No more than we should be looking at ourselves according to the flesh. Emphasis on verse 16***** 2 Cor.5:14-21
[SUP]14 [/SUP]For the love of Christ controls
and urges
and impels us, because we are of the opinion
and conviction that [if] One died for all, then all died;
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15 [/SUP]And He died for all, so that all those who live might live no longer to
and for themselves, but to
and for Him Who died and was raised again for their sake.
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16 [/SUP]Consequently, from now on we estimate
and regard no one from a [purely] human point of view [in terms of natural standards of value]. [No] even though we once did estimate Christ from a human viewpoint
and as a man, yet now [we have such knowledge of Him that] we know Him no longer [in terms of the flesh].
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17 [/SUP]Therefore if any person is [ingrafted] in Christ (the Messiah) he is a new creation (a new creature altogether); the old [previous moral and spiritual condition] has passed away. Behold, the fresh
and new has come!
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18 [/SUP]But all things are from God, Who through
Jesus Christ reconciled us to Himself [received us into favor, brought us into harmony with Himself] and gave to us the ministry of reconciliation [that by word and deed we might aim to bring others into harmony with Him].
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19 [/SUP]It was God [personally present] in Christ, reconciling
and restoring the world to favor with Himself, not counting up
and holding against [men] their trespasses [but cancelling them], and committing to us the message of reconciliation (of the restoration to favor).
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20 [/SUP]So we are Christ’s ambassadors, God making His appeal as it were through us. We [as Christ’s personal representatives] beg you for His sake to lay hold of the divine favor [now offered you]
and be reconciled to God.
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21 [/SUP]For our sake He made Christ [virtually] to be sin Who knew no sin, so that in
and through Him we might become [[SUP][
a][/SUP]endued with, viewed as being in, and examples of] the righteousness of God [what we ought to be, approved and acceptable and in right relationship with Him, by His goodness].
We should be endeavoring each day to see ourselves and others as God sees us. Loved and Righteous IN Christ. Especially our brothers and sisters in Christ who are going through trials and endeavoring to share what they have been learning.
We don't automatically know how to walk in the power of the Holy Spirit. This is a learned process we go through all through our lives. It's like expecting every man in the family to have a full grown beard when they are young. They need time to age. Often times there are believers who cut their brothers and sisters off at the knees with expectations of perfection in their flesh when they have yet to learn how to walk consistently in the Spirit.
The renewing of our minds takes time. We have been given a new mind but it takes time to work it out by faith.
Putting off the old manner of life and putting on the new manner of life is a process. Some Christians are further along than others. Some have not gotten the teaching. Some are still babies in Christ at the age of 50 because they have yet to successfully put off the old manner of living. Many are still condemning themselves for their old lives and don't know that there is no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus.
So we should be reminding one another of these truths and assisting the Holy Spirit by repeating the truth of the Bible.