Slain in the spirit?

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Acts 2 doesn't say anything about being "slain in the spirit."
And Neither does any scripture ----it is all man made up doctrine taken from scripture on being drunk and spinning it to say the Holy Spirit's anointing is like your drunk and out of control -----with Laughter ---being slain in the spirit ---rolling around on the floor ---body shaking ---

It is a spirit alright -----the Anti Christ ----

This is commentary on Ephesians 5:18

Ellicott's Commentary for English Readers
(18) Be not drunk with wine, wherein is excess.—From the general idea of reckless levity, St. Paul passes on to the special sin of drunkenness, as not (like gluttony) primarily a gratification of the appetite, but as a reckless pursuit of excitement at all costs—glorified as an excitement of emotion, and even of wit and intellect,

So these False Christians in the video are getting high on their emotions by this Hagin Satan driven man who is able to stir up their excitement of their emotions so that are like they are drunk on wine and they call it the Anointing of the Holy Spirit ---deceiving people into thinking that losing control is Holy Spirit driven -----

These People are Crazy and are off their Rocker -----and anyone who listens to or Follows this Deception is going straight to hell -------unless they receive Christ before they die

The Scripture clearly says ----from AI

2 Timothy 1:7 says, “For God gave us a spirit not of fear but of power and love and self-control.” With the Holy Spirit inside of us, we are able to possess self-control and demonstrate the fruits of the Spirit.

There is no such think as being Slain in the Spirit ------PERIOD
 

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2 Timothy 1:7 says, “For God gave us a spirit not of fear but of power and love and self-control.” With the Holy Spirit inside of us, we are able to possess self-control and demonstrate the fruits of the Spirit.
You do understand this verse is speaking about FRUITS of the Spirit not about GIFTS. Just pointing this fact out.
 

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I not going to indulge your unbelief. You are behaving as if Joel is greater than Peter
We have accounts after this where Paul reprimanded Peter. I am saying Prophecy is when the specifics of the prophecy is actually fulfilled and nothing what Joel said happened as God had him write it.
 

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I not going to indulge your unbelief. You are behaving as if Joel is greater than Peter
Most people who Teach, Preach, or become Theologians and Scholars will say a partial fulfillment happened. But you are saying it's 100% fulfilled.

Who are you that we should listen to over ordained Teachers and Preachers, Theologians, and Scholars?
 
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We have accounts after this where Paul reprimanded Peter. I am saying Prophecy is when the specifics of the prophecy is actually fulfilled and nothing what Joel said happened as God had him write it.
Joel was a prophet to Israel, not us. His prophesies pertain to Israel, not us. Peter, the head apostle to Israel, said that Joel prophecy about Israel had come to pass. End of story

We have the Revelation as our end time prophecy
 

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Here is a question and a story I visited a church called rebibal for Christ this place was unlike any other church I have been to the spirit hits you like a wall when you walk in. well the preacher was a woman and she was preaching powerfully as I listened I began to feel a kind of trance take over and my head kepts falling backwards but I resisted it until the third time now I had a broken foot at that time but the spirit took over my body and I began walking to the stage barely aware of what was going on

she kept preaching seeing me walking to the stage and as soon as I got to the top she put her hands on my forehead and my body fell backwards but was caught by several people who began speaking tongues over me I even tried to resist and get up but my body simply wouldn't and I saw a portal open and jesus was smiling at me

Now this was what I think is called slain in the spirit but my question is if this can be explained with scripture
I believe in the gifts of the Spirit, but I personally would run away and ask God to remove any ill effects from what you describe. The Bible says in 1 Corinthians 14:32-33:

"The spirits of prophets are subject to the control of prophets. For God is not a God of disorder but of peace—as in all the congregations of the Lord’s people. "

I have personally seen both God do amazing things, and fakes of Satan. One clear difference is that God made you, likes what you are, and respects your free-will and personhood. Satan does not and will sometimes attempt to overwrite your free-will.

And don't let an apparent vision of Jesus be the deciding factor one way or the other - you have to discern the spirit (1 John 4:1, 1 Thessalonians 5:19-22). In fact, just like in Pharoah's court, both both God and Satan can be present at the same place and look superficially similar.

Sadly there are evil spirits that have become widespread in undiscerning parts of Pentecostal Christianity. Although it looks different than what you describe, New Zealand Christian Andrew Strom has put a series of videos on YouTube (please see past the over dramatic music) documenting what he identifies as a Kundalini - an evil spirit used in Hinduism that has been getting passed around in some Christian churches. Though a little different from what you describe, I suggest you watch some to get some grounding in some of the patterns that are happening.

Whatever you encounter, though, fear not, for "the one who is in you is greater than the one who is in the world." (1 John 4:4)
 

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Pushing on the forehead is a practiced technique to get the person off balance so they fall backwards. I once saw them do this to a guy who refused to go down. Every time the preacher pushed on the guy's forehead the guy would take a step back so he wouldn't lose his balance and fall. After a few embarrassing tries the pastor signaled his bootlickers to put a chair immediately behind the guy so he couldn't step back. On the next push the guy tried to step back , but tripped against the chair and fell into it. This kind of stuff is the work of the devil
Yes, and there is even more to it then getting a person off balance. God gave my fellowship a specific warning not to let just anyone touch your head because it opens the door to spiritual transfers, good and bad.
 

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Joel was a prophet to Israel, not us. His prophesies pertain to Israel, not us. Peter, the head apostle to Israel, said that Joel prophecy about Israel had come to pass. End of story

We have the Revelation as our end time prophecy
Nothing happened pertaining to what the prophecy claimed would happen. As I mentioned, those with a clue understand this is a partial fulfillment and the days of visions, dreams, and ALL FLESH having the Spirit of God being poured out is happening in the literal last days.
 
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Nothing happened pertaining to what the prophecy claimed would happen. As I mentioned, those with a clue understand this is a partial fulfillment and the days of visions, dreams, and ALL FLESH having the Spirit of God being poured out is happening in the literal last days.
How do you know there weren't visions and dreams then? You don't. You just have a fantastical interpretation of what that means. Your unbelief rejects God's witness that he did pour out his spirit onto all mankind. In its place you imagine some fantastical interpretation that's divorced from reality.
 

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How do you know there weren't visions and dreams then? You don't. You just have a fantastical interpretation of what that means. Your unbelief rejects God's witness that he did pour out his spirit onto all mankind. In its place you imagine some fantastical interpretation that's divorced from reality.
I believe the Bible would have included it because the other fulfilled prophecies were explained in detail.
 
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I believe the Bible would have included it because the other fulfilled prophecies were explained in detail.
If you would read the bible with a believing heart you would see it. Prophets? Check. Visions? Check. Old men dreaming dreams? Omigosh It's not written in scripture so I can't believe what Peter said.

And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams: Acts 2:17
Let the prophets speak two or three, and let the other judge. 1 Corinthians 14:29
And in these days came prophets from Jerusalem unto Antioch. And there stood up one of them named Agabus, and signified by the Spirit that there should be great dearth throughout all the world: which came to pass in the days of Claudius Caesar. Acts 11:27-28
And as we tarried there many days, there came down from Judaea a certain prophet, named Agabus. And when he was come unto us, he took Paul's girdle, and bound his own hands and feet, and said, Thus saith the Holy Ghost, So shall the Jews at Jerusalem bind the man that owneth this girdle, and shall deliver him into the hands of the Gentiles. Acts 21:10-11
 

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If you would read the bible with a believing heart you would see it. Prophets? Check. Visions? Check. Old men dreaming dreams? Omigosh It's not written in scripture so I can't believe what Peter said.

And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams: Acts 2:17
Let the prophets speak two or three, and let the other judge. 1 Corinthians 14:29
And in these days came prophets from Jerusalem unto Antioch. And there stood up one of them named Agabus, and signified by the Spirit that there should be great dearth throughout all the world: which came to pass in the days of Claudius Caesar. Acts 11:27-28
And as we tarried there many days, there came down from Judaea a certain prophet, named Agabus. And when he was come unto us, he took Paul's girdle, and bound his own hands and feet, and said, Thus saith the Holy Ghost, So shall the Jews at Jerusalem bind the man that owneth this girdle, and shall deliver him into the hands of the Gentiles. Acts 21:10-11
But we're talking about God pouring out His Spirit upon ALL FLESH...not 120 individuals.
 
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But we're talking about God pouring out His Spirit upon ALL FLESH...not 120 individuals.
How do you think you have the spirit? Or all Christians for the past nearly 2000 years? The spirit was poured out onto all flesh. More than 3000 received the spirit on the say pf Pentecost, not just 120
 
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What do you think ALL FLESH means?
All of humanity as opposed to just Israel. That's the context. It doesn't mean that all humans will speak in tongues and act like they're drunk. That's just ridiculous.

What would it take for you to believe that God has poured out his spirit on all flesh?
 

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All of humanity as opposed to just Israel. That's the context. It doesn't mean that all humans will speak in tongues and act like they're drunk. That's just ridiculous.

What would it take for you to believe that God has poured out his spirit on all flesh?
Do you believe having the Spirit of God poured out on humans means they end up speaking in tongues?

Does that mean anyone claiming to be saved but doesn't speak in tongues isn't really saved?
 
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Do you believe having the Spirit of God poured out on humans means they end up speaking in tongues?

Does that mean anyone claiming to be saved but doesn't speak in tongues isn't really saved?
No. That was a one time sign.

No, tongues has nothing to do with salvation