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You constructed an entire 'addiction' around a throwaway remark I made. I can concede that it's reasonable to assume that, since I was presently smoking that I am a smoker. But 'smoker' is not what you said; you said 'You are addicted to nicotine'. You have no way of knowing that, and you then used your prejudiced assumptions to suggest that my opinion, and moral judgement, was not credible. Hopefully you can see why that is insulting.
For what it's worth, I'm sure you meant no harm by your comment so I see no reason to fall out over it, but I'd respectfully suggest you try and be more careful in the future.
For what it's worth, I'm sure you meant no harm by your comment so I see no reason to fall out over it, but I'd respectfully suggest you try and be more careful in the future.
S
Hmm, I may regret asking this, but.... Do any of you think smoking weed is a sin? It doesn't have anywhere near the addictive potential of nicotine (in fact I don't think it has any addictive compounds). Personally, I'm torn. I won't say it is a sin, but then theres also the "Follow the laws of man insofar as they agree with the laws of God" thing.
Now on another note; I do not smoke weed.
Now on another note; I do not smoke weed.
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Ok...it appears that most everyone would agree that any serious addiction is a sin. Anyone disagree with this?
Some seem to believe that the seriousness (or sinfullness) of an addiction is based upon and in proportion to the harm being done to the body (the temple of the Holy Spirit).
Others believe that the seriousness (or sinfullness) of an addiction is in its master/slave relationship to fleshly desires.
Also, most seem to agree that cigarettes in and of themselves are not a sin; however they are highly addictive which makes "enjoying a smoke" an unnecessary and unwise high risk for believers who don't want to end up sinfully addicted.
I agree 100% with all I have written here and I know that I am an addicted smoker and that my addiction is not pleasing to God. We are working on it.
Even so, I also hold the view that it is important to point out ...that too often non smoking Christians combine the current world views re: the social taboos of smoking with the sinfullness of addiction to make it (in their minds) a worse offense against God than say..addictive overeating or overworking. It is not any better or any worse a sinin actuality...except in the views of the world. The result of this too common mistake is very often a self righteous attitude toward smoking and/or smokers ...which is also a sin.
Some seem to believe that the seriousness (or sinfullness) of an addiction is based upon and in proportion to the harm being done to the body (the temple of the Holy Spirit).
Others believe that the seriousness (or sinfullness) of an addiction is in its master/slave relationship to fleshly desires.
Also, most seem to agree that cigarettes in and of themselves are not a sin; however they are highly addictive which makes "enjoying a smoke" an unnecessary and unwise high risk for believers who don't want to end up sinfully addicted.
I agree 100% with all I have written here and I know that I am an addicted smoker and that my addiction is not pleasing to God. We are working on it.
Even so, I also hold the view that it is important to point out ...that too often non smoking Christians combine the current world views re: the social taboos of smoking with the sinfullness of addiction to make it (in their minds) a worse offense against God than say..addictive overeating or overworking. It is not any better or any worse a sinin actuality...except in the views of the world. The result of this too common mistake is very often a self righteous attitude toward smoking and/or smokers ...which is also a sin.
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hi Santo!
well, i don't smoke weed (yuck). but i know many who do.
i don't know what The Lord would say, pretty sure He wouldn't like it.
i do know that it can destroy lives, kinda slowly. it seems to make people lethargic (?)
not to mention it's illegal in most countries so there could be the trouble about breaking the Laws of the Land, as you mentioned.
on the other hand, it is available here for medicinal purposes, so i really couldn't say. i don't know for what conditions it is prescribed but if it helps someone from suffering (?)
well, i don't smoke weed (yuck). but i know many who do.
i don't know what The Lord would say, pretty sure He wouldn't like it.
i do know that it can destroy lives, kinda slowly. it seems to make people lethargic (?)
not to mention it's illegal in most countries so there could be the trouble about breaking the Laws of the Land, as you mentioned.
on the other hand, it is available here for medicinal purposes, so i really couldn't say. i don't know for what conditions it is prescribed but if it helps someone from suffering (?)
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Treatment for lack of appetite and pain in cancer patients is it's most common use. People with a low tolerance for prescription drugs is another one. My grandpa, for example, can't even take aspirin without it making him vomit, so they told him the only other option to deal with his pain is for them to put in a morphine pump (which is basically opium and would eventually destroy his liver and kidneys). Instead he gets a small amount of weed each day from one of his friends who grows it for personal use.
Honestly in situations like my grandpa's I can't see condemning people for it. When your only options are live in pain and live long, live pain free legally, but die early because the medicine destroyed your kidneys, or live pain free illegally, and live a full life. In that situation even I would pick the the 3rd option.
Honestly in situations like my grandpa's I can't see condemning people for it. When your only options are live in pain and live long, live pain free legally, but die early because the medicine destroyed your kidneys, or live pain free illegally, and live a full life. In that situation even I would pick the the 3rd option.
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There are exceptions of course, where weed is the most reasonable alternative for those who genuinely need it for medical reasons....
Other than that.....
I've known a few people who were addicted to weed (they say its more of a psycological addiction?), so if addiction is a sin.........
Also, you don't smoke without getting high (do you?) which would make it the equivalent of drunkeness in the scriptures, right?
And, of course it is illegal..so unless a Christian was hoping to minister to others in jail.....
Other than that.....
I've known a few people who were addicted to weed (they say its more of a psycological addiction?), so if addiction is a sin.........
Also, you don't smoke without getting high (do you?) which would make it the equivalent of drunkeness in the scriptures, right?
And, of course it is illegal..so unless a Christian was hoping to minister to others in jail.....
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Weed can form a psychological addiction e.g. you like it so much you don't want to give it up (like chocolate or coffee), but it does not form a physical dependence (like nicotine)
Well it depends, if you eat it you just kind of get a really relaxed feeling, but if you smoke it you get that mind altering high. This is all second hand info so take it as you will.
Well it depends, if you eat it you just kind of get a really relaxed feeling, but if you smoke it you get that mind altering high. This is all second hand info so take it as you will.
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Hmmm making out can get pretty addicting
I believe that differentiating between what is sinning and what is playing with temptation should be understood and taught ..however like my momma always said...."If you play in the mud puddle, chances are you will get dirty!". I think that applies equally to smoking and to making out.